Is "blind faith" a myth?

[Rick O'Shez]

You'd never see it in my religious community, at any rate. Then again, Paganisms also aren't faith-based, so par for the course I guess. [/COLOR][/FONT]

Are you representative of the Pagan community though?

 

[Quintessence]

Are you representative of the Pagan community though?

On this particular item? Without a doubt, considering direct experience and practice is a root of the movement. Faith is pointless or foreign when you focus on directly experiencing and knowing.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

so to believe dreams exist is blind faith?
Because you cannot externally verify them?

For example, how do you prove to someone who has never had a dream that dreams exist?

I already answered that.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

These aren't the same thing as a monotheist using the exact phrase "blind faith." I'll stand by what I said earlier in the thread. And as Laika observed, I've seen it used to ridicule or criticize monotheists - it's a label outsiders put on them, not one they adopt themselves.

Take a look at any one of our many "free will" threads and you'll find people arguing that God has denied us evidence of his existence because evidence would deny us the opportunity for faith. I don't think it's unfair or ridicule to call this sort of faith "blind faith".

The fact that you personally find this sort of faith ridiculous doesn't make it a caricature; it just describes people other than you.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

These aren't the same thing as a monotheist using the exact phrase "blind faith." I'll stand by what I said earlier in the thread. And as Laika observed, I've seen it used to ridicule or criticize monotheists - it's a label outsiders put on them, not one they adopt themselves.

Take a look at any one of our many "free will" threads and you'll find people arguing that God has denied us evidence of his existence because evidence would deny us the opportunity for faith. I don't think it's unfair or ridicule to call this sort of faith "blind faith".

The fact that you personally find this sort of faith ridiculous doesn't make it a caricature; it just describes people other than you.

 

[Thief]

Not that exact quote, no.
But there are a couple members who dance around it....

For example "Faith Requires No Proof" is a favoured dogma of one particular member

faith requires no proof ....is found in Webster's
it is not dogma

 

[McBell]

faith requires no proof ....is found in Webster's
it is not dogma

rotflmao

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

faith requires no proof ....is found in Webster's
it is not dogma

As if on cue.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

On this particular item? Without a doubt, considering direct experience and practice is a root of the movement. Faith is pointless or foreign when you focus on directly experiencing and knowing.

So in what sense do you "directly experience" your gods?

 

[Rick O'Shez]

faith requires no proof ....is found in Webster's

I didn't know that, I thought it was hops. Nice pint anyway!

 

[Thief]

isn't there a note of 'proof' on that label?

 

[Quintessence]

So in what sense do you "directly experience" your gods?

Is this a trick question? The only way an animal can - with its senses and mental faculties? I'm sorry, but isn't this getting kind of off-topic?

 

[Rick O'Shez]

isn't there a note of 'proof' on that label?

Beer generally has a low proof rating.

 

[Thief]

experience is good.....
but sometimes
all you can do is think about it