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Is Cannabis the Answer?

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Well, that is pretty much why it's illegal (they also threw in a ton of blatant and overt racism to further their cause). Hemp would weaken everything from oil to timber to food. It is the Corporate Executive's boogeyman, because it can bring down their empires.

It's mind boggling to think what it could replace......the power of corporate greed knows no bounds. :(

People seem to believe anything they are told by the media. "Eat poisonous margarine because butter is bad for you"...."don't eat coconut oil, eat cheap canola or palm oil instead" and a thousand other lies told to sell unhealthy products. Look at the additives they put in tap water! Nothing that sustains life on this planet hasn't been tampered with to make us sick....giving the pharmaceutical industry a never ending stream of customers. :mad:
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's mind boggling to think what it could replace......the power of corporate greed knows no bounds. :(

People seem to believe anything they are told by the media. "Eat poisonous margarine because butter is bad for you"...."don't eat coconut oil, eat cheap canola or palm oil instead" and a thousand other lies told to sell unhealthy products. Look at the additives they put in tap water! Nothing that sustains life on this planet hasn't been tampered with to make us sick....giving the pharmaceutical industry a never ending stream of customers. :mad:
Something I often tell people is that I am way more concerned and worried the things on our shelves that we are told is "food" than I am Islamic terrorists. Compared to high fructose corn syrup and super-mega-agriculture, ISIS is barely hardly even a blip on the radar in Western life.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
This young man is a client of the lady in Adelaide whose medicinal cannabis supplies were seized and her operation shut down.She did not grow the plants...they were donated. She did not sell the medicine but provided it for free.


Most doctors are misinformed by the same people who want to keep this drug out of our hands.

People need to educate themselves!
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wicketkeeper

Living From the Heart.
Lets cut the BS and arrest the CEO's & politicians, and the rest of the clowns who are ignorant as to the benefits of medicinal cancer - life saving & life changing.

The problem is their are men and women who put profit above health, and the beauty is that we outnumber those who dictate what we as adults can do - when the penny drops then the revolution will begin in earnest. A peaceful revolution !

I am an anarchist, which simply put equates to self rule, in a peaceful way. Anarchy is not about violence, it is a peaceful way of life. I have been an anarchist my whole life and I have never been arrested - you see some people believe that anarchy is about violence, it isn't.

The violence of those who are not anarchists can be seen in the Middle East, Africa, UK, USA, and well most places.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Lets cut the BS and arrest the CEO's & politicians, and the rest of the clowns who are ignorant as to the benefits of medicinal cancer - life saving & life changing.

Unfortunately, the "clowns" have all the say at present. We would like to move them to shame and to feel some compassion, but alas, they don't seem to feel either. It has something to do with the structure of corporations and their influence on governments.

It is interesting to read up on what a corporation is according to the legal system.
Here is the definition...a Corporation is "a large company or group of companies authorized to act as a single entity and recognized as such in law." Now imagine a group of men and women who make up such a corporation, who are all dedicated to making their bottom line as healthy as possible so that they can continue to earn ridiculous amounts of money and gain bonuses on top of that hefty salary. There is no single person to whose conscience one can appeal. As a single entity, devoted to making money, they all engage in propping up the corporation's business interests that keep them employed and facilitates their lifestyle, health cover etc. Anyone who rocks that boat will be punished and their character sullied...their reputation destroyed. ....we all know what happens to whistle-blowers.
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We know too that government policy is influenced by big business. That is the way the system works and has done since the Industrial Revolution changed forever the way humans earn their living.

The problem is their are men and women who put profit above health, and the beauty is that we outnumber those who dictate what we as adults can do - when the penny drops then the revolution will begin in earnest. A peaceful revolution !

According to the Bible, a revolution is coming that will be anything but peaceful.
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Humanity will rise up and it will not be pretty. Imagine the worst time of trouble the earth has ever experienced and then imagine something worse. Jesus called it "the great tribulation" and it was part of the sign that he gave to signal the end of corrupt human rulership over mankind. (Matthew 24:21)

I am an anarchist, which simply put equates to self rule, in a peaceful way. Anarchy is not about violence, it is a peaceful way of life. I have been an anarchist my whole life and I have never been arrested - you see some people believe that anarchy is about violence, it isn't.

I have great respect for peaceful protesters, but unfortunately, their voices are not heard because of the roar of the present system.
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Jesus himself never advocated anarchy, but told his disciples that when the law of the land demanded something that was not forbidden by the laws of God, they were to comply. However, when the authorities demanded that they break the laws of God, they too were happy to be arrested rather than to compromise. That is having the courage of your convictions and this is something that requires the right kind of courage....not the kind that resorts to violence, but the sort that is courageous despite the odds. (Matthew 5:29-41) Its called integrity and Jesus had it in spades. What a great role model!
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The violence of those who are not anarchists can be seen in the Middle East, Africa, UK, USA, and well most places.

We can also see that peaceful demonstrations are often spoiled by those who want to introduce violence and then the peaceful message is lost in the process, and becomes tarnished by the actions of a violent few. No one wins.
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Sometimes "rent-a-crowd" is brought in to deliberately start the violence.

Jesus and his disciples were good role models for all of us. They did not stir the pot politically in the first century although they reason to. The Romans were oppressing the Jews and there was a movement afoot to bring about a revolt. These Zealots were recruiting men for their cause. The disciples refused to be drawn into the argument. They just got on with their own business as best they could, of spreading the peaceful message about the incoming Kingdom (government) of God that they believed would solve all of man's problems without a single human having to raise a hand. (Daniel 2:44; Matthew 10:11-15; 2 Thess 1:6-9)

It is comforting to know that the incoming government of God will end all oppression, suffering and injustice. (Revelation 21:2-4) Bring it on I say !
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wicketkeeper

Living From the Heart.
Deeje, being an anarchist simply means not needing government interference ! I I know right from wrong, and to my best ability I live from the Heart, I treat those I meet with respect and in fairness when dealing with them.

Here we are discussing the medicinal properties of a herb put here by God. It is not Mans' place to dictate what I should or should not do ! I should be able to grow cannabis and and share its benefits with family and friends. But we have a gang of bullies(police)who are the dogs that carry out their masters orders !

There has been a promising development here in the UK with several police chiefs turning a blind eye to people growing a couple of plants.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I know that, I myself use to smoke it, and I believe that it brought on latent schizophrenia, which has been proven by medical science.
Medical science has shown that it can exacerbate the symptoms of schizophrenia, among those who have it or are predisposed to it. But it's not known to actually cause schizophrenia.
 
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SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
MDMA has also shown promise for treating PTSD. But as for psilocybin, it is even showing promise, very profoundly, in being so effective in treating various mental issues that even terminal patients feel much more calm and at peace with the fact they are living out their final days. Personally, I think everyone should use psilocybin, at least once, because it opens avenues in the brain (both metaphorically and literally), reveals different perspectives, and combined with the peaceful calming heightened euphoria, how could we kill people if we feel such a deeply profound connection with them? How could we destroy a forest knowing we are all such intimately linked and connected? How could we call ourselves special when we can't deny we are one with universe, not special snowflakes that are better than or separate from the universe?
Ketamine also appears to be potentially useful to when it comes to treatment-resistant major depressive disorder (at least, so far). It works like, almost immediately.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Ketamine also appears to be potentially useful to when it comes to treatment-resistant major depressive disorder (at least, so far). It works like, almost immediately.
From my studies, I am learning that most drugs have benefits. Some are very nasty and horrible when abused, but many things, if not most things, in life are that way. Too much water is bad, too much fruit is bad, too much exercise is bad, and, yes, too many drugs are bad. But for those who use responsibly, for the biggest part of the general population, the risks of drugs is just way over hyped to the point of being unreasonable. We'll go on about how dangerous pot is or bad meth is, but yet we don't extend this same stigma to alcohol, but rather the opposite, we tolerate and even accept and expect alcohol abuse on many occasions throughout the year. And alcohol, of course, is potentially far deadlier and more destructive than all the so-called "hard" drugs.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
This was on last night's news....


The stance taken on this issue has caused widespread disillusionment for those who were led to believe that the lawmakers actually cared about people's suffering. It is so disappointing when those who can provide the money have to take their business overseas because of misinformation and political pressure that is dumped on those who could change this law tomorrow if they really wanted to.

A 'pharmaceuticalized' "cannabis based drug" was also on the news, proclaiming great success for a young girl with severe epilepsy, taking part in a drug trial. Note the skepticism of the doctor who was surprised by the result, thinking that cannabis was "just a fad"...I wonder where he got that idea?

"Medical research minister Pru Goward has urged those patients to wait until wider approval is sought.
“When you see miracles, because that's what this is, miracles like Skye … it was worth it,” she said.
“It's scientifically based - some drugs take 10, 15, 20 years to get to the market and this is no exception."


Telling the parents of epileptic kids to "be patient" o_O......let's all "be patient" watching our children die when this plant could be made available to all who need it NOW...not in 10, 15 or 20 years!

Teen’s seizures disappear after ‘miracle’ cannabis drug trial

We all know that when a drug is manufactured by the big pharma companies, and called by their brand name, it means big money in the pockets of the drug companies again. Epidiolex.....(a rose by any other name) is made from the same cannabis plant that is already helping hundreds of epileptic children who simply take cannabis oil made very cheaply from a plant that can be grown in your own garden....but they have to do it illegally. Do you smell greed and corruption? :(
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Deeje, being an anarchist simply means not needing government interference ! I I know right from wrong, and to my best ability I live from the Heart, I treat those I meet with respect and in fairness when dealing with them.

And who could ask for more of their citizens? If we all behaved that way, who would need police? However, it is unfortunate that many want to be anarchists in the wrong way, making it hard for everyone else. :(

It is interesting to note that in Eden, God did not give a lengthy list of rules for his human creation to follow. They were not over-governed because they didn't need to be. Only when humans were influenced to misuse their free will did we see problems emerge. They are still misusing it and history repeats because we never learn from our mistakes.
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Here we are discussing the medicinal properties of a herb put here by God. It is not Mans' place to dictate what I should or should not do ! I should be able to grow cannabis and and share its benefits with family and friends. But we have a gang of bullies(police)who are the dogs that carry out their masters orders !

Yes, sadly we have seen the police become "enforcers in combat gear" over recent years. It makes little sense to knock down doors and arrest people for possessing a harmless plant, when alcohol is causing way more harm. There would be great benefits in legalizing this God-given herb.....but as long as people promote the misinformation, the big boys will continue to profit from the misery they cause. Money will continue to be wasted prosecuting people who are doing nothing more than wanting to help their kids or themselves get well.

There has been a promising development here in the UK with several police chiefs turning a blind eye to people growing a couple of plants.

In Australia too there has been a relaxing of the attitude towards the use of medicinal cannabis by police in some places, asked to use discretionary powers in the case of people wanting to help the suffering or the dying. It shouldn't be illegal to want to help someone. Who could see the success of medicinal cannabis with epileptic kids and deny them the medicine?
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1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
And who could ask for more of their citizens? If we all behaved that way, who would need police? However, it is unfortunate that many want to be anarchists in the wrong way, making it hard for everyone else. :(

It is interesting to note that in Eden, God did not give a lengthy list of rules for his human creation to follow. They were not over-governed because they didn't need to be. Only when humans were influenced to misuse their free will did we see problems emerge. They are still misusing it and history repeats because we never learn from our mistakes.
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Yes, sadly we have seen the police become "enforcers in combat gear" over recent years. It makes little sense to knock down doors and arrest people for possessing a harmless plant, when alcohol is causing way more harm. There would be great benefits in legalizing this God-given herb.....but as long as people promote the misinformation, the big boys will continue to profit from the misery they cause. Money will continue to be wasted prosecuting people who are doing nothing more than wanting to help their kids or themselves get well.



In Australia too there has been a relaxing of the attitude towards the use of medicinal cannabis by police in some places, asked to use discretionary powers in the case of people wanting to help the suffering or the dying. It shouldn't be illegal to want to help someone. Who could see the success of medicinal cannabis with epileptic kids and deny them the medicine?
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When marijuana becomes a legal medication, who exactly do you think will be providing it?
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
When marijuana becomes a legal medication, who exactly do you think will be providing it?
We would like to be able to grow it ourselves, being able to legally purchase the medicinal seeds at appropriate outlets.

Some of us would like to eat it raw for its health benefits, and others would like permission to process their own medicine. It will probably never happen because the system will not allow it, but people can make their own wine and beer at home and not break the law, so what's the deal? Cannabis is way less harmful that alcohol.
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savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
When marijuana becomes a legal medication, who exactly do you think will be providing it?
Good point! If allowed, the pharmaceutical companies will make their brand of it and it will be expensive but might be a better cure than what can be got by the local grower.
Both will be providing it and that seems to be a problem for the lovers of $.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Apart from cannabis, there have been many other 'medicines' and regimes that have successfully treated cancer and other serious life-threatening illnesses for hundreds of years.

Have you ever wondered how we got to this current situation where doctors are simply the prescribers of drugs that don't really work and actually make you sicker? And why the mere mention of alternative therapies makes them angry? Did you know that if doctors do not recommend the drug therapies that are promoted by drug companies, especially for cancer, they can lose their licence? Did you know that the majority of encologists would never have chemo themselves or give it to their families? They know the truth.

Have you wondered why chemotherapy doesn't cure cancer but makes patients suffer unmercifully in their attempts to beat it?

Did you know that the three recommended treatments for cancer, actually give you cancer and strip your immune system of any chance of beating the thing that is killing you?

Please watch this documentary to understand why......

Now Playing: The Truth About Cancer: A Global Quest 9 part docu-series.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Why are pot smokers just as likely to get cancer as non pot smokers
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Why are pot smokers just as likely to get cancer as non pot smokers
Lyndon, do you have any idea how many carcinogens there are lurking in our food....our water....and the air we breathe?
Humanity are dropping like flies because the system is geared to perpetuate ill health and reap the benefits of a very lucrative industry. Drugs are designed to treat symptoms and if there are inevitable side effects, then more drugs are prescribed.
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I don't think you have any idea of the level of evil that exists in this world.....the lid is being lifted and people are beginning to glimpse just how deep and how high the rot goes....and they are getting very angry about it.
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