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Is Cannabis the Answer?
- Thread starter Deeje
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adrianhindes said:There is a vast difference between the stories you posted and peer reviewed medical journals. It is excellent that some people with severe illness have found benefit from medicinal cannabis. I have no objection at all, and I completely support research into any medication including medical cannabis that may alleviate suffering or cure illness. However until much more is known medical doctors need to be very careful about prescribing this medication and under what circumstances.
I did have a patient with chronic degenerative neurological condition who asked to be prescribed medical cannabis. It is extremely tightly regulated in my country. I sought advice from a neurologist who was unaware of any evidence that it would be beneficial. However as nothing else had helped special application was made. No benefit resulted unfortunately.
Research will continue and lets see what emerges
Research will never deliver cures for anything. The system will not allow it.
If you have time, this video tells a very interesting story about the power behind orthodox medicine....and how many "cures" there are for cancer that have never been allowed to be used because the powers who have a vested interest in the ill-health industry cannot profit from cures.
We all know how greed and corruption are rife in this world.....the Bible predicted it.....this video appears to reveal why.
(1 John 5:19)
Jedster
Flying through space
Research will never deliver cures for anything. The system will not allow it.
If you have time, this video tells a very interesting story about the power behind orthodox medicine....and how many "cures" there are for cancer that have never been allowed to be used because the powers who have a vested interest in the ill-health industry cannot profit from cures.
We all know how greed and corruption are rife in this world.....the Bible predicted it.....this video appears to reveal why.
@Deeje
I think that the doctors here(UK) are told what drugs to prescribe.
Here are a couple of examples that I know of first hand.
1.A close friend suffers from acute artharitus(leg). He goes to the doctor who gives a script for a particular painkiller. He tries these pills for a couple of weeks and does not experience any relief.
He goes back to the same doctor who asks what pills he is taking and is told he should never have taken these pills and tells him to take another brand!!!!
The doctor doesn't even remember prescribing the bad pills.
2.I went to get some help with a hearing problem and was given some pills. The problem got worse after taking the pills, so I went back and saw a different doctor who told me in no uncertain terms that the pills I was taking have been known to cause altzheimers and I shouldn't be taking them. Of course I should have known!!!!!
(incidentally I found a homoeopathic remedy that I bought over the counter, which helped)
There are lots of cases like this that are destroying peoples faith in the medical profession, which has obviouly become a business....just like education has.
Also, I know several people who getting help by using medicinal cannabis.
@adrianhindes can I get your medical opinion on the medicinal cannabis controversy please?
How does the medical profession respond to the evidence made available online?
Are doctors dissuaded from considering the evidence?
In my experience at least, Drs are now much less hesitant to recommend it. My pcp likes it for anxiety, my GI begs me to use it, and my spine surgeon was the one who convinced me to try it. Of course this mix of people have also both prescribed opiates as well and benzos. They have to be careful too, I'm not sure their recommendations can be official yet.
Yeah perhaps my biggest issue is that there is NO training to work at a dispensary. I remember one time I'd been using a strain for about a month with Great benefit. Then one day they stopped carrying it (another huge issue with the current system). I asked for something similar, and the guy was literally like "well, this strain smells awesome too!" Thanks a lot dude.
McBell
Unbound
As would I.
Now all you have to do is explain how your above post is relevant in a thread about MEDICAL marijuana.
And you STILL have not explained the videos in the OP.
I really enjoy talking to you but I think you need to take a deep breath and reconsider the above. It is suggestive of some evil conspiracy theory.
This is simply not the case. Much research is done by universities that are independent of pharmaceutical companies and medical doctors are trained at universities.
The health system despite all its flaws provides excellent care to many people.
Pharmaceutical companies despite the corporate model have a vital role to play.
There is good historic reasons we rely on rigorous research for decision making in health decisions rather than relying on anecdotal evidence.
I have been considering this question for many years now and the more I consider it...the more sinister it becomes.
If you believe the Bible, as you suggest you do, then you will see that an evil conspiracy has been in place from day one after the fall in Eden. What has transpired since then have just been episodes in the same sorry tale. Who rules this world? (1 John 5:19; Luke 4:5-7)
Are you sure about that? It always seems strange to me that "breakthrough's" are often in the news as a result of this perpetual research, and yet it is often said that we have to wait 10 years to get them approved for general use. Meanwhile 10 years down the track, everyone has forgotten about the promised treatment and it never seems to be forthcoming.
When pharmaceutical companies have political clout, they can pretty much get away with what you saw on the video.
These are well documented cases. There was also a doctor in Perth some years ago who opened a clinic to treat cancer patients with late stage diseases that were given up as terminal by the orthodox medicos. He used focused doses of microwaves and killed the cancers completely in a very short time. He was having great success but the authorities shut him down and forced him to stop his treatments. He was not doing anyone any harm, and his patients were living proof that his therapy worked. So why put it out of reach for them? What was behind the move to raid the ones providing medicinal cannabis free of charge and leaving their clients with no way to treat their kids with intractable epilepsy. How can anyone in all conscience take away the only medicine that worked for them? Can you answer this for me?
Doctors are well trained in their pharmacology, but for the most part, they know very little about nutrition. The old saying "We are what we eat" is truer than most people realize.
If drug companies can stifle cures for cancer from behind the scenes, and then continue to recommend the three therapies that make cancer worse in many cases, then I think that is cause for alarm.
I believe that patients who survive cancer do so in spite of chemotherapy for the most part, not because of it.
I am sick of watching the needless suffering, especially in children. I am tired of hearing the excuses.
There are equally good reasons for not believing what the medical system is trying to promote. Doctors are educated by a system that is not geared to finding cures, but who are more intent on promoting "treatments" which often have horrendous side effects....for which they will push more drugs.
My own GP is aware of this and is more inclined to withhold drug treatment until he has exhausted every other avenue. He is at times frustrated by the constraints he has to confront. He is learning more about medicinal cannabis and is silently angry about roadblocks, which he sees as unnecessary. All the studies have been done oversees and the evidence is clear.....so why is this treatment still illegal?
He wants to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
It would benefit a lot of people if we all tried to be that way, don't you think?
wicketkeeper
Living From the Heart.
I've had cancer three times(due to my genetic condition)and have endured the scalpel 4 times, and I have my life to live because of my surgeon. However I am wary of what big pHarma has to offer because when taking presribed medication is a risky business ! My mother suffered horrendously when she had a bad reaction to the prescribed drug, it was that experience which made my mother read the information leaflets which accompany the prescribed drug. I followed suit some years later and read all the leaflets.
I can only say good things about my surgeon(who knows me inside out !)and my support base, especially my nurse. BUT, I do not trust big pHarma !
I trust my own research !
You know it makes me smile when folk make fun of those who question the System(of which we are all a part), we are called a variety of names, including conspiracy theorists. Due to the tireless efforts of a group of families and football fans in Liverpool and worldwide, these conspiracy theorists are now conspiracy factualists. Its taken them 27 years, but they have unveiled the truth that has been buried by consecutive governments, the hierarchy of of various police forces, coroners officers and so on.
I know its off topic but its the truth. Don't believe me ? Go and look into the Hillsborough Disaster. Then come back and tell me that we are deluded sad people. You just need to check what political language is used because a couple of years ago the British PM, David(left his baby in a pub ! yup, he forgot he was a daddy !)Cameron used it on occasion. Obama too, and even the current British PM, Theresa May has recently used it. Why ? Because these types(psychopaths)are sitting on a ticking bomb of conspiracies which will cause a huge meltdown when the people realise how they've been treated.
I wrote this without using what is referred to as 'strong' language. Quite a task when I talk or write about Hillsborough.
Hillsborough: The shameless smears, lies and cover-ups
JF96
YNWA
Yes I am a Scouser and proud of the fact.
I can only say good things about my surgeon(who knows me inside out !)and my support base, especially my nurse. BUT, I do not trust big pHarma !
I trust my own research !
You know it makes me smile when folk make fun of those who question the System(of which we are all a part), we are called a variety of names, including conspiracy theorists. Due to the tireless efforts of a group of families and football fans in Liverpool and worldwide, these conspiracy theorists are now conspiracy factualists. Its taken them 27 years, but they have unveiled the truth that has been buried by consecutive governments, the hierarchy of of various police forces, coroners officers and so on.
I know its off topic but its the truth. Don't believe me ? Go and look into the Hillsborough Disaster. Then come back and tell me that we are deluded sad people. You just need to check what political language is used because a couple of years ago the British PM, David(left his baby in a pub ! yup, he forgot he was a daddy !)Cameron used it on occasion. Obama too, and even the current British PM, Theresa May has recently used it. Why ? Because these types(psychopaths)are sitting on a ticking bomb of conspiracies which will cause a huge meltdown when the people realise how they've been treated.
I wrote this without using what is referred to as 'strong' language. Quite a task when I talk or write about Hillsborough.
Hillsborough: The shameless smears, lies and cover-ups
JF96
YNWA
Yes I am a Scouser and proud of the fact.
It sounds like Satan is pulling the strings. How does that work?
On the other hand we have many medicines that work well now. Would you decline antibiotics if you had a life threatening infection?
It is true that big corporations including the pharmaceutical companies can influence government policy. We know that from the tobacco industry and more recently what the alcohol industry are doing.
The problem is that there have been doctors and healers that have made unfounded claims, won the trust of people, and the treatments haven't worked whereas a more conventional approach may have. That's why prospective new treatments are closely monitored.How can anyone in all conscience take away the only medicine that worked for them? Can you answer this for me?
I agree completely with this. Much more emphasis needs to placed on diet and the Baha'i writings emphasise this.
Sometimes this is true. I think it is up to each one of us to read our own reality and investigate the truth. However we need to seek advise from competent physicians too.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
anything swallowed in quantity will kill you
including water
I might point out ....it was made illegal when no one but the users understood
and the Dupont company had just invented nylon rope
To stamp out hemp rope....make it illegal
yeah....money motivated the law
The Bible speaks about "satan" "the devil" neither of which is his personal name but are descriptors of his ungodly character.
Jesus was tempted by this "person" three times after his baptism. Since Jesus was "sinless" it is not talking about a quality of evil within him, but a powerful entity who, according to scripture, is God's adversary.
1 John 5:19 tells us that the whole world is under his control and we can clearly see it. Man's "inhumanity" is influenced by this demonic spirit.
No I have had to take anti-biotics myself a few times in my life, but never for anything trivial. I will seek natural therapies whenever possible. I also take daily supplements, which means that I rarely get the nuisance colds and flu that usually accompany winter. The over-use of anti-biotics of course now means that the bacteria have adapted and returned stronger than ever. Who do we blame for that? It appears that hospitals are now the best places to pick up life threatening infections.
There is no doubt that some pharmaceuticals do bring benefits like symptomatic relief for many conditions. But how many are without debilitating side effects?
Which is why we see alcohol and cigarettes causing untold harm and damage, yet they remain "legal" recreational substances. There are way less adverse effects from using MJ, so what is the reason why it continues to be the demon drug, when it itself is relatively harmless compared to most "legal" pharmaceutical drugs, which can and do make people sicker in the long term?
No one wants to see people taken advantage of, but we aren't talking about snake oil salesmen here. There is a mountain of evidence, even from scientists, that prove MM is an effective and safe drug that has been used for thousands of years.
The video evidence is compelling as we see case after case of those with seizures and neurological conditions helped by this medicine with no nasty side effects. Because it is a natural herb, the body's receptors readily take it up.
The western diet, we know is far from optimum. The state of ill health is a fair indication that our diet is responsible for much of our health problems....but the industry that promotes it is not going to ban it are they? So why ban something that is actually beneficial for heath and well-being? The people being treated with MM are just ordinary folk who have exhausted the drug regimes with little or no success.....so we want to be allowed to legally gain access to something we can actually grow in our own backyards if we choose to. The whole plant in its raw form is equally beneficial to health.
If this was all regulated so that proven strains of the plant from reputable sources were recommended to each patient for their individual needs, we would see a whole lot less suffering in the world....and a whole lot less exploitation.
We all need a medical system that actually addresses the needs of the patient before the needs of greedy drug companies.
God put this plant here for our benefit as it can be used in such a wide variety of illnesses. How can humans outlaw a plant that is so beneficial? Greed and corruption is the only reason I can see.
The multitude of uses for hemp are well documented. All bio-degradable and non polluting.....but the big boys who want to produce poisonous products from their industrial waste, will continue to pollute this planet with their horrible counterfeits. Look at the plastic pollution on this planet.....just mind boggling.
Makes you sick, doesn't it?
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MJ was never a scourge on humanity, though it may have been a scourge to some individuals who misused it.....alcohol is a well documented scourge as are tobacco and prescription drugs, yet no one seems keen to ban them. I wonder why?
As a Christian, I am not commanded to be a vegetarian, though I do suspect that we will eventually go back to that state in the future. Humans started out as vegetarians, so it must have been an optimum diet. Some of the earth's strongest creatures are vegetarians.