Is Dr. Kent Hovind right before God?

[Clara Tea]

We have not come from mammals, because we are still mammals.
The mammals have not come from fish, because mammals are still fish.
I see no logic here.

PROOF OF FREEWILL:
The fact that we were alive a year ago does not mean that we were dead a year ago. The fact that we were alive a year ago does not mean that we are not alive a year ago. It's just that our language is not perfect, and that's why you use the word "were".
There is no (atheistic) reason that September 2021 is currently on the calendar. Indeed, in Einstein's Theory (very well and thoroughly tested) there is no concept of "today" and "now", any time-point in your biography is one big TODAY. You thought in 2020 “today is the 2020th year”, and it has not disappeared anywhere: today, in 2021, it’s the same 2020. But you see only 2021 on the calendar so that you can perform Free Actions and Free Choice between Good and Good (but not "arbitrariness" between Good and Evil) - you have Free Will. Just because you have Freedom, you feel how the wall-clock is running. Yes, if the postulate of causality has no exceptions, then there is no Freewill. BUT I HAVE LOGIC IN THE TOPIC !!! THIS MEANS THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS.

PROOF OF CREATIONISM:
Because there is a mystery of Dark Matter and Dark Energy, the History of the Universe is divided into two parts: Virtual and Actual. The border of separation is 7000 years ago. Therefore, light reaches us millions of years from distant galaxies, although the actual history of the universe is only 7000 years old. Light in flight becomes from the virtual design of God into the actual implementation of the plan for the creation of the world. The Dark Matter and Dark Energy are remnants of this virtual world.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
I can prove to all skeptics that this is my biography:
CV: Dmitri Martila
After all, there are my contact details, and in the list of published articles there are articles in the highest physics journals, but also in the Russian newspaper: World of Orthodoxy. There is no need to be surprised and demand a public renunciation of faith: I am in the company of such faithful physicists as Newton and Einstein, and other Nobel laureates.

Mammals can evolve from other mammals. Even though they are still mammals, they might be a more evolved one. For example, humans and bonobo chimps are both mammals, but humans evolved from bonobos (just ask any bonobo if this is true).

Einstein's theory says that time is relative (depends on the strength of gravity and speed). So there is no "today" or "now" for everyone. But those terms can be locally defined.

What is the same in 2020 as it was in 2021?

Freedom doesn't allow you to experience the passage of time.

Why does seeing that the year is 2021 allow you to do good, but not evil?

Who underdstood the no-communication theorem?

The link, above, says that Dimitri Martila (I assume that is you) agrees with Bohm's interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, and it has something to do with superluminal communications (which was not specified). What does it have to do with it?

What logic do you have in the topic? It seems like a lot of blather.

 

[Clara Tea]

Wonderful. Then you would gladly post a link to them, wouldn't you?


BTW: I don't think there is a Science street in New York. I could be wrong.

Theology street leads to heaven (it's an invisible road, so that should prove it is there). Science street, I presume, is next to it.

 

[Clara Tea]

In the same class as "If pigs could fly..."


So you think your god forgives people's sins for introducing you to blatant falsehoods? Makes about as much sense as anything else you've said, I guess.

If you drop them out of a plane, the pigs sort of fly (straight down). It's a rather sharp downward glide path.

But, it gives a good opportunity to check if God is watching. Surely God should save the pig. Surely the pig is praying, as are those who wish the pig well.

 

[Clara Tea]

Bad mood? Who is in bad mood?
I read about Kent Hovin and there is nothing i found that was good about him.

In some cultures, cows are holy....bad mooed or not.

 

[Clara Tea]

Lying cannot save a person. You might want to think about that.

Many amorous beau has lied his way out of confrontations with angry husbands...thus saving their lives.

 

[Irate State]

We have not come from mammals, because we are still mammals.
The mammals have not come from fish, because mammals are still fish.
I see no logic here.

PROOF OF FREEWILL:
The fact that we were alive a year ago does not mean that we were dead a year ago. The fact that we were alive a year ago does not mean that we are not alive a year ago. It's just that our language is not perfect, and that's why you use the word "were".
There is no (atheistic) reason that September 2021 is currently on the calendar. Indeed, in Einstein's Theory (very well and thoroughly tested) there is no concept of "today" and "now", any time-point in your biography is one big TODAY. You thought in 2020 “today is the 2020th year”, and it has not disappeared anywhere: today, in 2021, it’s the same 2020. But you see only 2021 on the calendar so that you can perform Free Actions and Free Choice between Good and Good (but not "arbitrariness" between Good and Evil) - you have Free Will. Just because you have Freedom, you feel how the wall-clock is running. Yes, if the postulate of causality has no exceptions, then there is no Freewill. BUT I HAVE LOGIC IN THE TOPIC !!! THIS MEANS THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS.

PROOF OF CREATIONISM:
Because there is a mystery of Dark Matter and Dark Energy, the History of the Universe is divided into two parts: Virtual and Actual. The border of separation is 7000 years ago. Therefore, light reaches us millions of years from distant galaxies, although the actual history of the universe is only 7000 years old. Light in flight becomes from the virtual design of God into the actual implementation of the plan for the creation of the world. The Dark Matter and Dark Energy are remnants of this virtual world.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
I can prove to all skeptics that this is my biography:
CV: Dmitri Martila
After all, there are my contact details, and in the list of published articles there are articles in the highest physics journals, but also in the Russian newspaper: World of Orthodoxy. There is no need to be surprised and demand a public renunciation of faith: I am in the company of such faithful physicists as Newton and Einstein, and other Nobel laureates.

I'll have a Sprite with this salad, please.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

We have not come from mammals, because we are still mammals.
The mammals have not come from fish, because mammals are still fish.
I see no logic here.

PROOF OF FREEWILL:
The fact that we were alive a year ago does not mean that we were dead a year ago. The fact that we were alive a year ago does not mean that we are not alive a year ago. It's just that our language is not perfect, and that's why you use the word "were".
There is no (atheistic) reason that September 2021 is currently on the calendar. Indeed, in Einstein's Theory (very well and thoroughly tested) there is no concept of "today" and "now", any time-point in your biography is one big TODAY. You thought in 2020 “today is the 2020th year”, and it has not disappeared anywhere: today, in 2021, it’s the same 2020. But you see only 2021 on the calendar so that you can perform Free Actions and Free Choice between Good and Good (but not "arbitrariness" between Good and Evil) - you have Free Will. Just because you have Freedom, you feel how the wall-clock is running. Yes, if the postulate of causality has no exceptions, then there is no Freewill. BUT I HAVE LOGIC IN THE TOPIC !!! THIS MEANS THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS.

PROOF OF CREATIONISM:
Because there is a mystery of Dark Matter and Dark Energy, the History of the Universe is divided into two parts: Virtual and Actual. The border of separation is 7000 years ago. Therefore, light reaches us millions of years from distant galaxies, although the actual history of the universe is only 7000 years old. Light in flight becomes from the virtual design of God into the actual implementation of the plan for the creation of the world. The Dark Matter and Dark Energy are remnants of this virtual world.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
I can prove to all skeptics that this is my biography:
CV: Dmitri Martila
After all, there are my contact details, and in the list of published articles there are articles in the highest physics journals, but also in the Russian newspaper: World of Orthodoxy. There is no need to be surprised and demand a public renunciation of faith: I am in the company of such faithful physicists as Newton and Einstein, and other Nobel laureates.

I am sorry to say it, but you are becoming increasingly incoherent. I seriously wish that you would give some thought to your mental health, and seek some professional guidance.

 

[blü 2]

We have not come from mammals, because we are still mammals.
The mammals have not come from fish, because mammals are still fish.
I see no logic here.

That seems to be due to lack of homework. Let me help you:

You and the mammals and the fish are all

Eukaryota
Eumetazoa
Bilateria
Deuterostomia
Chordata
and
Vertebrata​

and you and the mammals are, in addition to that

Gnathostomata
Tetrapoda
Amniota
Reptilia
Synapsida
Therapsida
and
Cynodontia​

The tree of evolution tells you a great deal more about the history of life on earth than God ever did. Look into it!

PROOF OF FREEWILL:

Which definition of 'freewill' are you talking about?

1. The ability to make choices, free from outside pressures and forces?

or

2. The ability to make choices, independently of the brain's decision-making functions?

Good to get these things clear at the start, no?


Oh, and as for Mr Hovind, he's fine with God as long as God is fine with people who tell lies under oath and willfully break the laws of their nation.

 

[questfortruth]

That seems to be due to lack of homework. Let me help you:

You and the mammals and the fish are all

Eukaryota
Eumetazoa
Bilateria
Deuterostomia
Chordata
and
Vertebrata​

and you and the mammals are, in addition to that

Gnathostomata
Tetrapoda
Amniota
Reptilia
Synapsida
Therapsida
and
Cynodontia​

The tree of evolution tells you a great deal more about the history of life on earth than God ever did. Look into it!
Which definition of 'freewill' are you talking about?

1. The ability to make choices, free from outside pressures and forces?

or

2. The ability to make choices, independently of the brain's decision-making functions?

Good to get these things clear at the start, no?


Oh, and as for Mr Hovind, he's fine with God as long as God is fine with people who tell lies under oath and willfully break the laws of their nation.

Organisms could become more evolved, but no organism has come from another organism.

 

[ratiocinator]

Organisms could become more evolved...

"More evolved" shows a misunderstanding of the subject.

...but no organism has come from another organism.

So you just got magicked into existence, did you? You weren't born?

Also, what's the point of quoting a post if you're not going to answer any of its points and you're just going to make more random comments of your own?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Organisms could become more evolved, but no organism has come from another organism.

Sorry, but there is no "more evolved". That implies a goal to evolution.

 

[blü 2]

Organisms could become more evolved, but no organism has come from another organism.

Who told you that?

Why do you think we humans have so many genes in common with our fellow primates, if not because we have ancestry in common, going back? Be specific.


And you forgot to tell me what you meant when you said "free will".

 

[Subduction Zone]

Who told you that?

Why do you think we humans have so many genes in common with our fellow primates, if not because we have ancestry in common, going back? Be specific.


And you forgot to tell me what you meant when you said "free will".

He actually prefers " Will"

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

We have not come from mammals, because we are still mammals.
The mammals have not come from fish, because mammals are still fish.
I see no logic here.

PROOF OF FREEWILL:
The fact that we were alive a year ago does not mean that we were dead a year ago. The fact that we were alive a year ago does not mean that we are not alive a year ago. It's just that our language is not perfect, and that's why you use the word "were".
There is no (atheistic) reason that September 2021 is currently on the calendar. Indeed, in Einstein's Theory (very well and thoroughly tested) there is no concept of "today" and "now", any time-point in your biography is one big TODAY. You thought in 2020 “today is the 2020th year”, and it has not disappeared anywhere: today, in 2021, it’s the same 2020. But you see only 2021 on the calendar so that you can perform Free Actions and Free Choice between Good and Good (but not "arbitrariness" between Good and Evil) - you have Free Will. Just because you have Freedom, you feel how the wall-clock is running. Yes, if the postulate of causality has no exceptions, then there is no Freewill. BUT I HAVE LOGIC IN THE TOPIC !!! THIS MEANS THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS.

PROOF OF CREATIONISM:
Because there is a mystery of Dark Matter and Dark Energy, the History of the Universe is divided into two parts: Virtual and Actual. The border of separation is 7000 years ago. Therefore, light reaches us millions of years from distant galaxies, although the actual history of the universe is only 7000 years old. Light in flight becomes from the virtual design of God into the actual implementation of the plan for the creation of the world. The Dark Matter and Dark Energy are remnants of this virtual world.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
I can prove to all skeptics that this is my biography:
CV: Dmitri Martila
After all, there are my contact details, and in the list of published articles there are articles in the highest physics journals, but also in the Russian newspaper: World of Orthodoxy.

What does any of this have to do with your thread title?

Also, Hovind is not a "Dr". He calls himself that, but he is a pathological liar.

There is no need to be surprised and demand a public renunciation of faith: I am in the company of such faithful physicists as Newton and Einstein, and other Nobel laureates.

Well, aren't we full of ourselves...........................

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

If God of Kent becomes proven, then any sin of Kent becomes not important, because it is he, who introduced me to Creationism.

Well, that certainly explains a few things.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

We have not come from mammals, because we are still mammals.
The mammals have not come from fish, because mammals are still fish.
I see no logic here.

I agree that there is no logic there.

"we don't come from humans because are still humans".




yep, that's some batsh*t crazy stuff right there

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I see hatred towards Hovind. Why?

He reaps what he sows.

The guy is a pathological liar, abuser, scammer, fraud,... all around, he's just an extremely unpleasant lying prick.

That's not hatred. That's just objective fact. It's calling a duck, a duck.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

He's in jail? Lol

I was not aware

I think he's out now.
Did several years for fraud.
His whole "ministry" was nothing but a money making scam which he was hoping to collect taxfree.
The IRS saw it differently.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think he's out now.
Did several years for fraud.
His whole "ministry" was nothing but a money making scam which he was hoping to collect taxfree.
The IRS saw it differently.

But in October he is likely going back.

 

[Astrophile]

Organisms could become more evolved, but no organism has come from another organism.

Unless I have been very much misinformed, I came from my parents. Unless you are a very unusual organism, you probably came from your parents.