Is evolution as crooked as Hillary?

[Kemosloby]

For one, it has solid grounding in viral diseases and infections. How it can develop new strains that are resistant or immune to the current introduction of antibiotics or vaccines.

That virus can react this way to vaccines, adapting itself that new strains of the viruses can resist the same vaccines being used, is a real-life example of Natural Selection, without requiring thousands of years to see changes.

And Natural Selection is just one mechanism in evolutionary biology. Another mechanism involved in this example of viruses is Mutation.

Evolution also gave biologists fuller understanding of genetics.

Not everything about speciation and fossils.

Haven't those things evolved yet into people?

 

[gnostic]

At least he's honest about it. Smart enough to exploit the holes politicians left for the bankers called depreciation.

Are you kidding me?

He would not have said anything if he wasn't exposed.

He is like all the officials of Catholic Church and Anglican Church who knew of their pedophile priests for decades, but did nothing, keeping it hidden, until they were exposed of the cover-up.

That these churches now own up their cover-up, after that long secrecy is not honesty or moral.

Trump is no more moral or honest than a con man.

Years of not paying tax because of manipulating the tax system is not honesty or moral, and that you will go so far as defend such action make me wonder of your religious morality.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Excuse me, but is this the thread where we deny that the Earth goes around the Sun? I was just checking my Bible and noticed that the Sun clearly resides in a house at the edge of the sky. Are there perhaps any other Hillary loathing Science deniers about, so that we may have tea together and discuss the frivolous persuits of observing nature?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Sure they would, sure as the overuse of antibiotics in the factory farm industry, they would become resistant to antibiotics.

Completely false. You do not develop resistance to the things that kill you -- you must change. You can't develop resistance to acid burns on your skin, to bullets penetrating your body, to strychnine poison. And most assuredly -- and this is the key point -- even if you could alter you physiology or your biochemistry so that you could resist those things, you could not pass that resistance on to your offspring.

And that is what drug-resistant bacteria are able to do -- to bequeath their resistance to future generations.

 

[Kemosloby]

Are you kidding me?

He would not have said anything if he wasn't exposed.

He is like all the officials of Catholic Church and Anglican Church who knew of their pedophile priests for decades, but did nothing, keeping it hidden, until they were exposed of the cover-up.

That these churches now own up their cover-up, after that long secrecy is not honesty or moral.

Trump is no more moral or honest than a con man.

Years of not paying tax because of manipulating the tax system is not honesty or moral, and that you will go so far as defend such action make me wonder of your religious morality.

It was legal. He had no ablitiy to manipulate the tax system. He didn't write the tax law, he just understood it well enough to avoid paying taxes. Probably understands bankruptcy law too by the sounds of it. Smart smart man. What Hillary does is corrupt and illegal but does not go to jail for it. Using her government postion of authority for pay to play, paying protesters to be violent? Lord knows what else she does. We won't since they keep her protected like Catholic priests.

 

[Kemosloby]

Excuse me, but is this the thread where we deny that the Earth goes around the Sun? I was just checking my Bible and noticed that the Sun clearly resides in a house at the edge of the sky. Are there perhaps any other Hillary loathing Science deniers about, so that we may have tea together and discuss the frivolous persuits of observing nature?

I'll go, do a little fishing and observe nature, love it when the eagles catch a fish.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

As we all are when there is no science behind it.

And you know that how? Tell us exactly how much of the very real science behind evolution that you have read and understood and could pass an exam on. Your statement above since next-to-none, by the way. Bald-faced claims about things one knows nothing about only really make one look stupid.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Why not? A rare but natural variation, like plague/HIV resistance in man.
Natural selection in the presence of antibiotics just selected for those rare variants.

Having a hard time understanding what you're saying. You just gave a nearly textbook definition of what evolution is, while you seem to be denying it exists! That's about as confusing as it gets, I'm afraid.

 

[Brickjectivity]

I'll go, do a little fishing and observe nature, love it when the eagles catch a fish.

Yeah its similar to the way that creation scientists pocket the offerings of unsuspecting church folk. Have you ever observed that? I have. They like to scare people about evolution and claim that its Satan's tool to undermine the Bible, and thus they connect any sort of evolutionary theories as Satanic. Hillary Clinton admits that evolution is a reasonable postulate, so she is automatically inculcated as a Satanic supplicant whether purposefully or not. So modern creationism is both political and religious. Its not very scientific. Its doesn't really do anything or produce any results.

 

[Kemosloby]

And you know that how? Tell us exactly how much of the very real science behind evolution that you have read and understood and could pass an exam on. Your statement above since next-to-none, by the way. Bald-faced claims about things one knows nothing about only really make one look stupid.

Passing an exam is the primary goal of understanding Evolution theory? Who writes the exam, same people making up Evolution theory? Hey thats a good gig, beats working where you have to make something useful, maybe I will give that a try.

 

[gnostic]

Haven't those things evolved yet into people?

Clearly you don't understand the mechanism of biology, when you ask a question that so bloody ignorant.

Creationists who make impossible and false scenario, just show their absurd ignorance, and unwilling to learn so they don't remain ignorant.

Are you willing to learn?

Viruses cannot become human. Cats cannot give birth to dogs, or vice versa. Monkeys cannot give birth to humans, or the other way around. These are the sort of stupidity that can be found in creationism camp; these are simply misinformation and propaganda, and refusing to listen or learn from biologists.

Inventing these false and impossible scenarios won't validate creation.

And for another, the bible isn't a book on biology. That much is true, when creationists expect gullible people to believe in nonsense that "adult human" can be made directly from dust (in the bible) or from clay (in the Qur'an), or that serpent or donkey can talk in the human language.

Such beliefs are based on myths and primitive superstitions. That some people actually believe in literal interpretations of these chapters, and not understanding that they are allegories, just show that some people have continue to live in ignorance.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Passing an exam is the primary goal of understanding Evolution theory? Who writes the exam, same people making up Evolution theory? Hey thats a good gig, beats working where you have to make something useful, maybe I will give that a try.

Well, since you obviously revel in your ignorance, I shall leave you to enjoy it as you may. For me, while me body needs to be fed for my physical survival, I also need to feed my mind. Not everybody cares to, and who am I to force feed somebody for whom knowledge is anathema?

 

[Kemosloby]

Yeah its similar to the way that creation scientists pocket the offerings of unsuspecting church folk. Have you ever observed that? I have. They like to scare people about evolution and claim that its Satan's tool to undermine the Bible, and thus they connect any sort of evolutionary theories as Satanic. Hillary Clinton admits that evolution is a reasonable postulate, so she is automatically inculcated as a Satanic supplicant whether purposefully or not. So modern creationism is both political and religious. Its not very scientific. Its doesn't really do anything or produce any results.

I don't care for church, won't go in one. They've been subverted by something. Anybody know who runs them? I do know that all the protestant churches in my area send any charity money to the catholic church, so im guessing the Catholic church runs them all.

 

[Kemosloby]

Clearly you don't understand the mechanism of biology, when you ask a question that so bloody ignorant.

Creationists who make impossible and false scenario, just show their absurd ignorance, and unwilling to learn so they don't remain ignorant.

Are you willing to learn?

Viruses cannot become human. Cats cannot give birth to dogs, or vice versa. Monkeys cannot give birth to humans, or the other way around. These are the sort of stupidity that can be found in creationism camp; these are simply misinformation and propaganda, and refusing to listen or learn from biologists.

Inventing these false and impossible scenarios won't validate creation.

And for another, the bible isn't a book on biology. That much is true, when creationists expect gullible people to believe in nonsense that "adult human" can be made directly from dust (in the bible) or from clay (in the Qur'an), or that serpent or donkey can talk in the human language.

Such beliefs are based on myths and primitive superstitions. That some people actually believe in literal interpretations of these chapters, and not understanding that they are allegories, just show that some people have continue to live in ignorance.

un huh, man can't be made from dust but the universe can spring up out of nothing. I'm listening, go on.

 

[Ouroboros]

Could it be possible that Evolution theory is just a monstrous lie based on cross breeding?

Nope.

The only observable facts to the regular Joe is we have seen cross breeding and know that animals can change.

And how can they change if they're all exactly the same and can't change? And what is it that causes the change? Can it be something called genetic code? Well... then you have the a clue to how evolution works at the fundamental level.

For the rest we would need to look at the server in Hillarys' basement.

???

Seriously they make such a big deal out of Evolution theory, but what good does it do? If you were building a building, and miscalculate the strength of steel, the building might fall down. But if you're wrong about Evolution theory, name one thing which would result from it.

*sigh*

What good does superstring theory do? Or other super symmetry concepts that have no evidence so far?

Science is about to explain how the world works, not for the purpose of being useful. Engineering is a field that is useful, but physics is a science which engineering needs.

People who work in medicine, agriculture, and even software engineering can be helped by the understanding of evolutionary processes. How about financial software that actually use genetic algorithms?

There actually have been successful projects done using genetic algorithms. Also, in the fight with pests and disease, we need a better understanding of how life forms evolve in our world.

 

[FearGod]

Could it be possible that Evolution theory is just a monstrous lie based on cross breeding? The only observable facts to the regular Joe is we have seen cross breeding and know that animals can change. For the rest we would need to look at the server in Hillarys' basement.

Seriously they make such a big deal out of Evolution theory, but what good does it do? If you were building a building, and miscalculate the strength of steel, the building might fall down. But if you're wrong about Evolution theory, name one thing which would result from it.

Both are facts and were proven to be so, the evolution and the crooked Hillary.

 

[JakofHearts]

Evolution in the sense that things change is evident because we can observe change. (microevolution, adaptation, variation, even natural selection).

Evolution in the sense that all life originated from a single molecular cell and gradually changed into more complex organisms is not evident (macroevolution). It cannot be observed, tested, repeated or demonstrated scientifically in any way.
This is what Darwinism claims and what I and many others have a problem with. The theory of evolution isn't science, it's pseudoscience.

Broadly defining the term 'evolution' is what confuses those that don't know any better.

 

[Kemosloby]

Nope.


And how can they change if they're all exactly the same and can't change? And what is it that causes the change? Can it be something called genetic code? Well... then you have the a clue to how evolution works at the fundamental level.


???


*sigh*

What good does superstring theory do? Or other super symmetry concepts that have no evidence so far?

Science is about to explain how the world works, not for the purpose of being useful. Engineering is a field that is useful, but physics is a science which engineering needs.

People who work in medicine, agriculture, and even software engineering can be helped by the understanding of evolutionary processes. How about financial software that actually use genetic algorithms?

There actually have been successful projects done using genetic algorithms. Also, in the fight with pests and disease, we need a better understanding of how life forms evolve in our world.

Genetic code limits somethings ability to change as well as enable it. Like the weather, sometimes it gets colder and sometimes it gets warmer but in the grand scheme of things everything remains the same.

 

[Valjean]

Completely false. You do not develop resistance to the things that kill you -- you must change. You can't develop resistance to acid burns on your skin, to bullets penetrating your body, to strychnine poison. And most assuredly -- and this is the key point -- even if you could alter you physiology or your biochemistry so that you could resist those things, you could not pass that resistance on to your offspring.

And that is what drug-resistant bacteria are able to do -- to bequeath their resistance to future generations.

But humans and other animals do the same thing, by the same mechanisms. The resistance is heritable.
Disease virulence typically diminishes over time as percentages of resistent individuals increase. When plague first appeared in Europe, for example, it was much more deadly than it is today.
The percentage of people with resistance genes is measurably higher in exposed populations.

Having a hard time understanding what you're saying. You just gave a nearly textbook definition of what evolution is, while you seem to be denying it exists! That's about as confusing as it gets, I'm afraid.

Sorry. I'm saying that in any population of microbes there is variation due to mutation. When a particular mutation, by chance, happens to increase the reproductive fitness of a particular animalcule -- such as an antibiotic resistant mutation in an antibiotic rich environment -- the resistant individuals will survive and reproduce more successfully than the susceptible population. Their percentage of population will increase.
I'm also saying the same thing happens in humans. Some individuals, through mutation or sexual variation, have more resistance to X disease than others.

So how do I seem to be denying it exists? (You haven't read many of my posts yet, have you? )

 

[Valjean]

I'll go, do a little fishing and observe nature, love it when the eagles catch a fish.

I'll bet the fish don't share your sentiment...