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Is Faith Evidence of Things Not Seen?

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Faith might be evidence of their belief, however, it is not evidence that the belief is true. There is pretty much nothing one cannot believe on faith alone, therefore faith is not a reliable pathway to truth.

Well, there is. Faith is: complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

If I have no evidence as per science, I can still act with faith and get away with it as long as what I do, is subjective and I don't try to do something I can't do objectively as subjective. I have in fact just done so.

Here is an example in regards to this:
Science has limits: A few things that science does not do

I can't use science to do morality, so I act as me with faith in that all humans have worth and dignity. What makes that work, is that I have faith in it, as it is without evidence as per science. And it works as long as I understand that it is subjective and a value system that guides my behavior.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I see no evidence that mental actions are not physical.

Of course not.
You: All mental actions are physical.
Me: No!. That "no" is physical and thus a fact and thus it is a fact, that I can think and communicate that "no". And you can't object, that it is wrong, because that "wrong" is physical. Or meaningless or nonsense or what not, because all of that is physical. All mental actions are physical and that includes answering "No!"

I have tested your claim applying a general reductio ad absurdum and not just your physical test. And the result is absurd, because it ends in a contradiction. So I have applied logic on your test and it fails.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Well, there is. Faith is: complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

If I have no evidence as per science, I can still act with faith and get away with it as long as what I do, is subjective and I don't try to do something I can't do objectively as subjective. I have in fact just done so.

Here is an example in regards to this:
Science has limits: A few things that science does not do

I can't use science to do morality, so I act as me with faith in that all humans have worth and dignity. What makes that work, is that I have faith in it, as it is without evidence as per science. And it works as long as I understand that it is subjective and a value system that guides my behavior.

Right, but faith does not speak to whether a proposition is true or false.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Right, but faith does not speak to whether a proposition is true or false.

Correct, but truth has a limit. There is no single universal theory/methodology of truth that applies to everything. Neither in science, philosophy nor religion. In practice we end with a combination of regularity, which also allows for limited cognitive, cultural and moral relativism.

You are playing philosophy and so am I. I just know that and is honest about it. There is no as with conditional knowledge absolute singular truth. In principle there is, but that belongs to a theoretical being we call "God". So you can have absolute singular truth, if you are God, but you are not that, right? Nor am I and I don't claim the truth of God. Do you?
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
No, I am asking you.
I am as a physical action doing a "No!". What is next? Where do we go from that? What do you do?
There is nothing for me to do. Without evidence to support your claim that there is something non-physical, I remain unconvinced.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Because faith and the word substance is said in the same statement, a scientist would claim that faith owned the substance, and you would be occult proven wrong.

Substance titillates the occult science psyche believing he will know God, the spirit of, his motivation to constantly study the bible and ask questions. One day he will know everything he says. Yet space owns multi physical forms and reactions that are nothing at all like Earth.

The faith in the substance that returned to Earth as the theme, being saved by the wandering asteroid stone bodies, or Messengers of stone ONE, God, says have faith that when the stone comes in that it will own the correct RNA bodies on its mass and not get converted RNA that will attack/destroy life on Earth as an out of space occult invasion, have faith he said to his arrogant occult self.

As writer of the book that depicts God as the conscious idea of the want of the destruction of the Nature animals and humans on Earth. When the whole time it was an occult human male group of scientists and machines.

Having faith in science is virtually claiming and because I know it all it will occur by my male HE WILL or HE'LL which is his real answer already, for surely your male science will was the will that had us all destroyed many times on Earth.

Faith in science is totally fake.

Science however said, water mass on that stone body surely would contradict any incoming viral attack. Were proven wrong many times.
 
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