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Is God against astrology?

nash8

Da man, when I walk thru!
Thanks for your eloquent post.

I have seen a calculation that the light arriving here from an individual star is on the order of a millionth of a watt per square meter, but I don't remember the source. High-energy frequencies are largely absorbed by the atmosphere.

How much energy does it take to affect a human biological process? What is the general power level of a photonic biochemical process? What is the general power level of a biophotonic emission?

I've read that every square inch of the human body is contacted by 2500 photons per second. It was on a yahoo answers post though so ya know. but how many of these would be from the sun and how many would be from a star?

Particle radiations produce radioisotopes in the upper atmosphere, but here again, the effect of a single star or of a few, which is needed for astrology, is miniscule.

Miniscule, but still present.

As to distinguishing starlight from sunlight, I suppose direction would be the easiest way.

But how accurate are photonic readings in such an aspect. As far as I know, it's extremely difficult for us to get direction readings on photons in a controlled lab experiments, how would we do so accurately on a much larger and less controlled area.

Ancient peoples went to great lengths to understand things but lacked the means to do so. It is unfortunate that their errors persist.

I would agree to a certain extent, which is why I stated that people, ancient or not, probably do not have the ability to logically deduce how energy from different arrangments of stars affect human personality traits, which is why in my opinion that astrology provides such generalized information.

Sample astrological advice, "Capricorn would be wise to not anger anyone today". Sounds good to me lol.

I will say on the other hand, I am a big proponent of of intuitive knowledge. It's not logical or scientific, but I think it plays its part. This is what I think most of astrology is based on. Not good for those skeptics out there, but I personally think it is something worth taking, even with a grain of salt.

Finally on the original thread, I read somewhere (can't find the source now) that Jewish Kings in the OT were usually of the sign of Virgo or Libra, as those signs were considered to have the most balanced traits neccessary for leadership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_astrology#Kabbalistic_astrology

Definitely a strong emphasis on astrology in Kabbalah, Hinduism, and many other religions. I guess you could say it depends on which God your talking about. A
 

Looncall

Well-Known Member
How much energy does it take to affect a human biological process? What is the general power level of a photonic biochemical process? What is the general power level of a biophotonic emission?

I've read that every square inch of the human body is contacted by 2500 photons per second. It was on a yahoo answers post though so ya know. but how many of these would be from the sun and how many would be from a star?



Miniscule, but still present.



But how accurate are photonic readings in such an aspect. As far as I know, it's extremely difficult for us to get direction readings on photons in a controlled lab experiments, how would we do so accurately on a much larger and less controlled area.



I would agree to a certain extent, which is why I stated that people, ancient or not, probably do not have the ability to logically deduce how energy from different arrangments of stars affect human personality traits, which is why in my opinion that astrology provides such generalized information.

Sample astrological advice, "Capricorn would be wise to not anger anyone today". Sounds good to me lol.

I will say on the other hand, I am a big proponent of of intuitive knowledge. It's not logical or scientific, but I think it plays its part. This is what I think most of astrology is based on. Not good for those skeptics out there, but I personally think it is something worth taking, even with a grain of salt.

Finally on the original thread, I read somewhere (can't find the source now) that Jewish Kings in the OT were usually of the sign of Virgo or Libra, as those signs were considered to have the most balanced traits neccessary for leadership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_astrology#Kabbalistic_astrology

Definitely a strong emphasis on astrology in Kabbalah, Hinduism, and many other religions. I guess you could say it depends on which God your talking about. A

After a bit of poking around, I find that the energy of one of the photons you cite is on the order of ten to the minus 19 joules and that a joule is , for example, the heat needed to raise the temperature of a gram of water 0.24 degrees C. Also, our bodies emit something like a joule of heat each sixtieth of a second. Any effect of the light from one or a few stsrs is vanishingly trivial.

Astrology is just one of that vast number of ancient scams devised in the ancient world to prey on people's ignorance. There is little excuse for being fooled in our time.
 

nash8

Da man, when I walk thru!
After a bit of poking around, I find that the energy of one of the photons you cite is on the order of ten to the minus 19 joules and that a joule is , for example, the heat needed to raise the temperature of a gram of water 0.24 degrees C. Also, our bodies emit something like a joule of heat each sixtieth of a second. Any effect of the light from one or a few stsrs is vanishingly trivial.

Astrology is just one of that vast number of ancient scams devised in the ancient world to prey on people's ignorance. There is little excuse for being fooled in our time.

Is heat what makes the biological properties of our body function? Or better yet is it, the only thing that makes are body function. Your assuming that that the bodies biological processes are based upon the amount of energy determining the effect. My personal opinion is that the energy level, and the frequency of the energy being emitted go into the mechanism of a biological process. Although this is what some might consider a "fringe" theory there is a growing number of scientist that promote the idea of photonic cellular communication.

And to that extent astrology is more associated with the alignment of the planets in accordance with the stars. The planets are what would actually be asserting force in the development of ones personality. Do the planets emit photons, if so whats the power level of the photons they emit, are there any other forces created by planets that might have the ability to alter human biological processes?

And I guess to each his own, because I believe in astrology to some degree, and I, by no means, consider myself ignorant. At the least, astrology provides general information that I believe would be relevant to almost anyone, at the most, it provides an actual insight into ones particular "path". Either way I don't see it as being a bad thing unless you become too dependent on it to the point where it governs your life, and that can be said for just about anything.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I'm afraid there's not a single point we agree on here and I also strongly doubt either of us will convince the other of the merits of our position. With that in mind I'll just say "fair enough, but I don't agree" and leave it there. :)

I beleive I will take that to mean you are not able to defend your beliefs.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
I beleive I will take that to mean you are not able to defend your beliefs.

I meant exactly what I said. There is no middle ground between us our views are so opposed. I don't see how further debate will be in any way constructive or informative. If you wish to consider that a personal victory then by all means do.
 
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