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Is GOD Capable Of Hate?

cardero

Citizen Mod
I found this statement on RF.
God doesn't love evil. God hates evil.

In my experience when someone usually hates something they either misunderstand it or fear it.
What does God fear or misunderstand about evil?

Is God capable of expressing an emotion that is usually designated for humans?

What would be God’s motivation for hate? What does God get out of it?

If God is capable of disliking something so much, why doesn’t God do something to affect change?
 

kiwimac

Brother Napalm of God's Love
God, I firmly believe, understands us so well that there is nothing in us that God hates or fears. Ahura Mazda is not about fear, not about hatred but compassionate understanding of the human condition.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
God, I firmly believe, understands us so well that there is nothing in us that God hates or fears. Ahura Mazda is not about fear, not about hatred but compassionate understanding of the human condition.

I agree; I disagree that God hates evil - there is no evil. There are evil acts; God (I don't believe) hates evil acts - they merely make him sad that someone has sinned. Like any good parent though, he would still love the child that has sinned, and would try to help that child understand the repercussions of sinning - the effect it has on others.

That is the only way to end sin.
 

Super Universe

Defender of God
There is no evil. There are only good choices and bad choices.

None of this is what the universe is about or for. That's what people really just can't understand. It's not about them.
 

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
Do with these what you will but they say what they say and it would be dishonest to make them say something they don't:

Ps 5v4-6: For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.


Rv 2v6: But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

Deut 16v22: Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the LORD thy God hateth.

Ps 45v6-7: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


Ps 11v5: The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Isa 1v14: Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

Prov 6v16: These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him

Isa 61v8: For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.

Jer 44v4: Howbeit I sent unto you all my servants the prophets, rising early and sending them, saying, Oh, do not this abominable thing that I hate.

Amos 5v21: I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

Zech 8v17: And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.

Rv 2v6: But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

Rv 2v15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
In my experience when someone usually hates something they either misunderstand it or fear it.
That may be the case, but I don't think it always is. I hate murder, child abuse, rape, etc. I hate these things because they are contrary to God's will. They destroy lives. They are evil.

What does God fear or misunderstand about evil?
Nothing. He understands it perfectly and knows that it is in direct opposition to good.



Is God capable of expressing an emotion that is usually designated for humans?
Why wouldn't He be? Do you believe He is incapable of expressing other emotions? If you do, I suppose your question makes sense. I see Him as being able to feel and express all of the emotions we as humans feel and express. His reasons for feeling and expressing them are always valid, though, whereas ours are often not.



What would be God’s motivation for hate? What does God get out of it?
There is no "motivation," and He has no need for one.



If God is capable of disliking something so much, why doesn’t God do something to affect change?
That would require Him to take away our free will, which is something He will never do.
 

michaelm

Member
to be a slave to emotions is human, not Divine. God cannot hate or be angry.

This world is just a play. If we watch a play and get angry or frightened, it is only because we are getting immersed and forgetting it is only a play. At the end all the characters, the murdered and murderer, the victims and victimisers all join hands and bow..................and then do it all again next performance, or take different acting roles in the next play they get cast in.

God is the eternal witness. For us it is important to play our role in the play correctly, especially if we want a 'good' part in the next play.

God is always aware it is a play, the eternal witness, God just watchs us. There is no involvement.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
to be a slave to emotions is human, not Divine. God cannot hate or be angry.
Which God are you referring to? If you are referring to the God of the Abrahamic religions, your answer contradicts everything the scriptures say about Him.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
God just watches us. There is no involvement.
Your God is uninvolved and mine is totally involved. Your God has no emotions; mine does.
There is only one eternal, absolute, Supreme Consciousness.
I agree, and yet your God and mine are so very different.
The differences are one of perception only.
And whose perception is right? I have a feeling you're going to say "both." And I'm going to say "impossible."
 

michaelm

Member
I think I am right, as Im sure you think you are right...otherwise we wouldnt have those views.
Maybe 'your' God likes to cause arguments, and 'mine' likes to watch. :)
 

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
God is a whimpering mass of jelly.

Rom 1v28-30: And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
 

Runlikethewind

Monk in Training
I believe that all things are in God, I believe that God is love, and I believe that God is perfect. (I believe these are all valid Christian positions)

If all things are in God and God is love then God does have emotions and hate must be there too, I'm not sure how but it seems that it must be so. If God is perfect then perhaps he has a perfect form of love as well as a perfect form of hate. Perhaps our human understanding of hate is not the same as its perfect form just as our understanding of love might have room for improvement. This is pure speculation on my part but it seems that God must hate perfectly, maybe some kind of loving hate if that is not a total contradiction. Maybe there is some way for it to be like that...something going on there....maybe :sarcastic
 

astarath

Well-Known Member
since God is without sin and evil, perhaps then he can not understand the choice to sin. He may understand that he gave us that choice but not why we make it?
 

lew0049

CWebb
It is impossible for us to comprehend the feeling/emotions of God because he looks at things in a way in which we cannot and are not supposed to comprehend. How and why would a creator hate his creation? He loves us in a way in which we cannot compare.
 

astarath

Well-Known Member
However when he is angered, even to the point of killing is this not a sign of hate rather than love? I am not saying it is beyond his "right" because all he does is right. But for me anger/hate tend to go hand in hand and as mentioned above it may be due to a confusion of the decision to sin and go to hell!!!!
 

lew0049

CWebb
I don't believe you can associate hate with death at all. In God's eyes, everyone is no where near his perfect holiness; therefore, he would realistically "hate" everyone. But no, instead he wants to bridge the gap between himself and mankind through love. The ultimate love of sacrificing himself (Jesus) to die for mankind's sin. In an sense, it would be similiar to taking the penalty of death for your child who was committed of murder. As a father, wouldn't you love you child enough to do so? He has given mankind free will.
 
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