Is god evil

[We Never Know]

From what I see being said...
'in the beginning adam and eve would never die, suffer, etc if they did not eat the forbidden fruit. Instead of controlling them god gave them freewill to let them choose for themselves.

They knew the consequences yet chose(that free will thing) to eat the forbidden fruit. So from then on they experienced suffering, death, etc. because of the choice they made.

Was god evil or fair since they were allowed choices, not forced one way or the other?

If I lay an apple on the table and tell you don't eat that or you will die,, but you choose to eat it anyway and die..
Is that my fault? Does that make me evil? Or did you die by your own hand and choices?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

From what I see being said...
'in the beginning adam and eve would never die, suffer, etc if they did not eat the forbidden fruit. Instead of controlling them god gave them freewill to let them choose for themselves.

They knew the consequences yet chose(that free will thing) to eat the forbidden fruit. So from then on they experienced suffering, death, etc. because of the choice they made.

Was god evil or fair since they were allowed choices, not forced one way or the other?

If I lay an apple on the table and tell you don't eat that or you will die,, but you choose to eat it anyway and die..
Is that my fault? Does that make me evil? Or did you die by your own hand and choices?

If I baked a fresh pie and put it on the table in front of you, the smell going straight to your nose making your mouth water, and I told you not to eat it or you'll die, would that make me evil? Not necessarily, but why in the world would I bake that pie in the first place?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

From what I see being said...
'in the beginning adam and eve would never die, suffer, etc if they did not eat the forbidden fruit. Instead of controlling them god gave them freewill to let them choose for themselves.

They knew the consequences yet chose(that free will thing) to eat the forbidden fruit. So from then on they experienced suffering, death, etc. because of the choice they made.

Was god evil or fair since they were allowed choices, not forced one way or the other?

If I lay an apple on the table and tell you don't eat that or you will die,, but you choose to eat it anyway and die..
Is that my fault? Does that make me evil? Or did you die by your own hand and choices?

No, what makes it evil is the punishment of death for eating an apple.

 

[Truth in love]

From what I see being said...
'in the beginning adam and eve would never die, suffer, etc if they did not eat the forbidden fruit. Instead of controlling them god gave them freewill to let them choose for themselves.

They knew the consequences yet chose(that free will thing) to eat the forbidden fruit. So from then on they experienced suffering, death, etc. because of the choice they made.

Was god evil or fair since they were allowed choices, not forced one way or the other?

If I lay an apple on the table and tell you don't eat that or you will die,, but you choose to eat it anyway and die..
Is that my fault? Does that make me evil? Or did you die by your own hand and choices?

The fall was all part of the plan.

 

[We Never Know]

If I baked a fresh pie and put it on the table in front of you, the smell going straight to your nose making your mouth water, and I told you not to eat it or you'll die, would that make me evil? Not necessarily, but why in the world would I bake that pie in the first place?

Why would I eat that pie knowing I would die when there are other pies to eat unless the temptation of doing what I shouldn't over ruled my rational judgement.

Maybe that was the lesson. Who knows.

 

[We Never Know]

The fall was all part of the plan.

Didn't know there was a plan. I must have missed some of the story.

 

[We Never Know]

No, what makes it evil is the punishment of death for eating an apple.

If(yeah an if lol) it was true that from this day forward you would live forever if you didn't eat chocolate(or pick your food).
Would you eat still chocolate?

I would debate it in my mind. Living for ever would eventually suc but so does dying before you want to.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

If(yeah an if lol) it was true that from this day forward you would live forever if you didn't eat chocolate(or pick your food).
Would you eat still chocolate?

I would debate it in my mind. Living for ever would eventually suc but so does dying before you want to.

Not the point. The punishment for eating an apple they were told not to was death. That is immoral, unjust and evil.

 

[Truth in love]

Didn't know there was a plan. I must have missed some of the story.

The very brief version is:

1. Make an earth
2. Put people on it.
3. Allow them to fall so they become mortal and can have children.
4. Provide a path of redemption so that death and sin are only temporary.
5. Let everyone choose their course.

 

[We Never Know]

Not the point. The punishment for eating an apple they were told not to was death. That is immoral, unjust and evil.

People are punishished all the time for doing what they are told not to do. Some get desth as a punishment. I guess the apple hasn't fell far from the tree

Btw, I believe in the death sentence in certain circumstances.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

People are punishished all the time for doing what they are told not to do.

Btw, I believe in the death sentence in certain circumstances.

So do I, but not for eating an apple. My point is the punishment of death far exceeds the crime of eating an apple an is thus evil.

 

[ppp]

If I lay an apple on the table and tell you don't eat that or you will die,, but you choose to eat it anyway and die..
Is that my fault? Does that make me evil? Or did you die by your own hand and choices?

Depends.


In this situation are you and I a couple of jerks on the internet? Or are you an omnipotent omniscient eternal bring, and I was born yesterday into an adult body?

 

[We Never Know]

So do I, but not for eating an apple. My point is the punishment of death far exceeds the crime of eating an apple an is thus evil.

I agree. But IMO I think its more about the lesson than the crime.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

I agree. But IMO I think its more about the lesson than the crime.

Do you think this really happened or just a story?

 

[We Never Know]

Depends.


In this situation are you and I a couple of jerks on the internet? Or are you an omnipotent omniscient eternal bring, and I was born yesterday into an adult body?

Ok.... If a god does exist.... Is climate change the gods fault or our dumb *** fault for knowing what happens and still doing it anyway?

 

[We Never Know]

Do you think this really happened or just a story?

Really? "From what see being said" is a clue.

 

[ppp]

Ok.... If a god does exist.... Is climate change the gods fault or our dumb *** fault for knowing what happens and still doing it anyway?

Please, let me address your first question before going on to a new topic. It is very important that I answer you correctly But first need to know the situation... Are we a couple of guys on the internet, or are you a god and me a child?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Really? "From what see being said" is a clue.

Why not just answer my question? Is the Adam and Eve story true or just a story?

 

[We Never Know]

Please, let me address your first question before going on to a new topic. It is very important that I answer you correctly But first need to know the situation... Are we a couple of guys on the internet, or are you a god and me a child?

I know you think you understood what I said. but what I said is not what you think I said when I said it. What I meant to say is what you thought I would only say if you thought I would say what I am trying to say. so what I am really trying to say is think about what I said and not what you think I said or thought I would say.
Do you know what I'm saying?

 

[We Never Know]

Why not just answer my question? Is the Adam and Eve story true or just a story?

No I am not religious. Thats been made clear over and over!

As I said "from what I see said" not "what I believe"