Both. I'm giving god the benefit of the doubt that maybe "he" can reproduce. Reproducing would be the only point of having a gender.Asexual, or gender-less?
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Is God male or female?
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Breathe
Hostis humani generis
I get you.
But could an incorporeal entity reproduce?
In order for a deity to reproduce, would it not require a corporeal body?
Or am I making an association that need not be made?
I don't make such a distinction. IMO incorporeal and corporeal are one and the same.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Having no form is the same as having form?
I don't understand.
I think it is a misunderstanding that there is substance with no form. I'm speaking from a non-dualist perspective which is one of the reasons I'm pantheist instead of pan(en)theist.
Puddle Duck
Splash!
An individual might better relate to and/or understand "God" if they perceive that "God" to be of the same gender as themselves. Apart from that, I don't see a reason as to why the gender of "God" should play a significant roll in your belief or disbelief system.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
You explained why God would have not needed to be a male to reproduce, but that wasn't my question. Go back and try again.
I don't think Jesus is an exact copy of God if thats what your getting at. If not please explain.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
That's what I'm getting at. Based on the first scripture I quoted, and on Jesus words ("he that hath seen me hath seen the Father"), It sounds to me as if Jesus Christ looked exactly like His Father.
I don't take that literally but rather figuratively. This reminds me of what I've been saying in the trinity thread. I and the father are one is figurative speech just like most the stuff Jesus said was.
This passage is also not literal either. We are not literally jesus just as jesus is not literally the father.
John 17
20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
Flat Earth Kyle
Well-Known Member
Wow, John 17:20 good scripture.
Because our minds are limited and cannot comprehend the fullness of God, we use images and attributes that we see and understand around us.
We understand the character of God more fully with the 'fatherly' images we have. Protector, provider, defender etc. all done in love. Certainly the traditional 'motherly' aspects are there as well, the nuturer, healer, carer, etc. all done in love as well. These attributes do overlap in areas, however for us to comprehend the fullness of the uncomprehendable, the paternal imagery is more congruous.
Gaura Priya
IRL
In my religion, although God goes beyond the ideas of male and female, He gives us the spiritual archetype of being both Masculine and Feminine, both the Mother and Father of this universe.
InChrist
Free4ever
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. John 4:24
I believe as the scriptures indicate God is a spiritual being and not a human being, therefore He is not male or female in the physical sense. Yet, God is a Personal being with a mind, will, intellect, emotions, and moral capacity which He gave to men and women created in His image.
I believe as the scriptures indicate God is a spiritual being and not a human being, therefore He is not male or female in the physical sense. Yet, God is a Personal being with a mind, will, intellect, emotions, and moral capacity which He gave to men and women created in His image.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Okay, I agree that Jesus was not saying that He and His Father are numerically "one." I think He was saying that they are "one" in that they are "united" in some way, just not physically. In other words, they are "one" in will, purpose, mind and heart. So I'm with you on that point. I disagree, however, with respect to the verse about Jesus being the express image of His Father's person. I believe it means that Jesus Christ looks exactly like His Father. Knowing which verses to understand literally and which ones to understand figuratively is quite the trick.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Define what you mean by "spirit." What do you believe that word actually means? Does it mean that God is like the air we breathe except that He has "a mind, will, intellect, emotions and a moral capacity"? If so, could you maybe elaborate on this concept so that I can understand your point of view better?
Secondly, do you believe the resurrected Jesus Christ to have a body of flesh and bones like He did when He appeared to His Apostles on Easter morning? Or do you believe that He somehow shed this body as He ascended into Heaven 40 days later? In other words, do you believe He still has a body of some sort or that He became a spirit again?
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JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
God holds both characteristics of Male and Female. But is neither male or female.