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Is God omni-benevolent?

lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

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stvdv said:
I never came across Omni benevolent while reading dozens of Spiritual Books during my 10 years stay in India

Omni Benevolent seems a Christian, Atheist or Abrahamics thingy
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It's a Christian thing. Atheists don't believe in a God, omnibenevolent or otherwise.

stvdv said:
I can imagine, as it is easy, that a "smart" Atheist debater invents "Omni Benevolent" to disprove God or something like that, but as this description makes no sense to attribute to God, it is useless, but fun maybe for debate sake.
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Imagine whatever you like. And feel free to suggest that atheist arguments against religion focus heavily on Abrahamaic faith. It's true, imho. But this isn't an atheist invention or strawman, and I'm somewhat bemused why you'd assume that.
 
stvdv

stvdv

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lewisnotmiller said:
It's a Christian thing. Atheists don't believe in a God, omnibenevolent or otherwise.



Imagine whatever you like. And feel free to suggest that atheist arguments against religion focus heavily on Abrahamaic faith. It's true, imho. But this isn't an atheist invention or strawman, and I'm somewhat bemused why you'd assume that.
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I don't assume
I could imagine

This happened
 
lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

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stvdv said:
I don't assume
I could imagine

This happened
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I have no idea what your point is. You said 'Omni Benevolent seems a Christian, Atheist or Abrahamics thingy'

Fair enough. It's a Christian thing. Not all Christians, but it's a very common (not universal) Christian belief.

You then continued;
'I can imagine, as it is easy, that a "smart" Atheist debater invents "Omni Benevolent" to disprove God or something like that, but as this description makes no sense to attribute to God, it is useless, but fun maybe for debate sake.'

Great. But leave us atheists out of it, and there is really no need to talk about "smart" atheists (lower case a) at all. This is a Christian belief. An atheist pushing back on it hardly seems weird given that YOU TOO don't believe in it.

Would you roll with 'I can imagine, as it is easy, a "smart" Hindu debater invents 'Omni Benevolent' to disprove a monotheistic God?'

Would you roll with 'I can imagine, as it is easy, a "smart" Buddhist debater invents 'Omni Benevolent' to disprove a monotheistic God?'

Colour me skeptical. Felt like a drive-by.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

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Wildswanderer said:
I did in reply to another post. But you need to present some reason that the existence of suffering eliminates the goodness of God before there's anything to discuss.
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If I created childhood leukemia in a lab and then released it upon the public, would you say I'm generally a good person, or a bad one?
 
Muffled

Muffled

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Brickjectivity said:
More like the ground. Anybody can walk on it, but try not to fall onto it.
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I believe yu might have been thinking about this verse:
Matt 21:44 And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.”
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

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Kenny said:
Not in the context of what you are saying. He created everything perfect and then man messes it up. Certainly we can see what man is messing up today too.
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Ah, so God created everything, but not the things we don't like. That's our fault.
LOL Okay then. If that makes sense to you. Just-so fables don't do it for me.
 
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Wildswanderer

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SkepticThinker said:
If I created childhood leukemia in a lab and then released it upon the public, would you say I'm generally a good person, or a bad one?
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How does this relate to the question of a loving God?
In a world without God, leukemia, pain, or any form of suffering, including your stubbed toe, is neither good nor bad, it just is.
Why would you have any problem with it?
I suppose the real question is something like: "If God does exist, why doesn't he do something about the world we screwed up?"
According to Christianity he did, in fact, do something quite dramatic. He became one of us and took every pain of every human onto his own body.
I haven't found a god that loving in any other religion and certainly not in a godless universe where pain is just natural selection at work.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

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Wildswanderer said:
How does this relate to the question of a loving God?
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Seriously?

Wildswanderer said:
In a world without God, leukemia, pain, or any form of suffering, including your stubbed toe, is neither good nor bad, it just is.
Why would you have any problem with it?
I suppose the real question is something like: "If God does exist, why doesn't he do something about the world we screwed up?"
According to Christianity he did, in fact, do something quite dramatic. He became one of us and took every pain of every human onto his own body.
I haven't found a god that loving in any other religion and certainly not in a godless universe where pain is just natural selection at work.
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Instead of preaching, I'd prefer you answer the question.
 
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