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Is God's love conditional?

love

tri-polar optimist
Is God's love conditional?
Do we have to perform certain rituals for God to love us?
Must we behave a certain way for God to love us?
If God's love is conditional, who can we depend on to love us no matter what?
Would you be more free if you knew God's love was unconditional?
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Is God's love conditional?
Do we have to perform certain rituals for God to love us?
Must we behave a certain way for God to love us?
If God's love is conditional, who can we depend on to love us no matter what?
Would you be more free if you knew God's love was unconditional?

It depends on who you ask.
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
Q: Does that mean love is untouchable and unspoken?

A: The only "un" that LOVE is – is UNCONDITIONAL. Do you have to tell someone you LOVE him/her at every moment? No. Do you have to embrace loved ones every opportunity you see them? No. Any type of LOVE that can BE felt through any of your senses certainly does strengthen and enrich your concepts of LOVE but are not necessary to express or define LOVE. These "acts" of LOVE can also BE performed insincerely and without compassion from anyone who doesn't UNDERSTAND LOVE.

HELLO IT'S ME: An Interview With GOD
Chapter: Truth, Love and Understanding
Pg: 138

This love is easy to say but very difficult for humans to understand and put into practice.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I dont believe its conditional...I do believe he wants us to do whats best for us and others.

I think he loves us in the way (or the closest I can come up with in my mind) a parent loves a child..

Love

Dallas
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
If we are willing to accept god unconditionally, and love him no matter what he does, you have his unconditional love too.

Heneni
 

Kcnorwood

Well-Known Member
I'm going with conditional...just for the idea that if you do not follow him he'll send you to hell or whatever your belifes on it are.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
If we are willing to accept god unconditionally, and love him no matter what he does, you have his unconditional love too.

Heneni

So, His love is conditional on your belief in Him? Unconditional love would be Him loving you whether or not you accept Him unconditionally.
 

Starfish

Please no sarcasm
Is God's love conditional?
Do we have to perform certain rituals for God to love us?
Must we behave a certain way for God to love us?
If God's love is conditional, who can we depend on to love us no matter what?
Would you be more free if you knew God's love was unconditional?

It is completely unconditional...

God's love is definitely unconditional.

I agree with Mister Emu and Christine.
 

Starfish

Please no sarcasm
HOW?
For those that don't believe in him or are really bad people apparently go to hell. That seems like a condition to me.:cool:
I imagine when we reject God, it breaks his heart. But he never stops loving us.
If my child committed murder, I would agree that he must go to prison. But I would still love him.

I don't believe God sends good, decent people to hell.
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
The demons believe there is a god, and they know that Jesus is the son of god, but they are not saved.

Jesus did his loving on the cross. And things have changed since then. The measure with which you love god is the measure with which he loves you back.

Heneni
 

love

tri-polar optimist
Should fear be a condition of God loving us?
I think not. We should look upon Him as a loving father, a nurturing mother, a protective big brother. God gave us life and free will that we may experience it fully.
 

ayani

member
Should fear be a condition of God loving us?
I think not. We should look upon Him as a loving father, a nurturing mother, a protective big brother. God gave us life and free will that we may experience it fully.

that is marvelous. frubals, Love.
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
"Love" I take to mean the surrender of self identity such that what one does to another, one fully does to one's self. The passions, joys, pains and fears of another become those of the observer as observer/observed disappear. "Unconditional" love is perfect selflessness, self-sacrifice and complete compassion, drawing no distinctions at all between "self" and "other."

With that in mind, to answer the question: "God's" love is never completely unconditional, and rarely even close to it. Where on the spectrum "God" ends up, depends on who is using the symbol.
 

logician

Well-Known Member
The OT god was not a god of love in any form or fashion. The NT god promises hell to unbelievers, so it's love is quite conditional.
 

Dunemeister

Well-Known Member
The OT god was not a god of love in any form or fashion. The NT god promises hell to unbelievers, so it's love is quite conditional.

You haven't read the OT, obviously. The OT is soaked with references to and examples of God's love. Even in his acts of judgment, you can detect loving restraint.

That said, I believe God's love is not unconditional. But it's not conditional on anything we do. It's conditional solely on God's own sovereign will.
 

logician

Well-Known Member
You haven't read the OT, obviously. The OT is soaked with references to and examples of God's love. Even in his acts of judgment, you can detect loving restraint.

That said, I believe God's love is not unconditional. But it's not conditional on anything we do. It's conditional solely on God's own sovereign will.

You obviously read the OT with blinders on, the god of the OT committed unspeakable acts of cruelty many, many times, (killed off the entire world except Noah, his family, and all but a few animals for starters, what did the animals do to deserve to be killed?) He also has his "chosen people" commit genocide, along with rape and other assorted crimes on other peoples deemed enemies or unfit. The list goes on and on. Not a nice god at all.
 
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