Magic Man
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Can He not produce His own love, instead of just returning others'?
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Is God's love conditional?
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Can He not produce His own love, instead of just returning others'?
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
And yet, biblically speaking, God always calls us to return, extending love where it is not waranted, because only love can fill the void, and it is precisely to the unlovable that love works most effectively.
crystalonyx
Well-Known Member
And how do you know this?
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend Love,
Just give an honest answere; is your love for fellow humans UNCONDITIONAL?
Humans are what you see and so can be talked / discussed about; BUT god, whom you do not know if there is one or not? how can it be discussed?
Deep down each one loves the other only to the extent his needs and wants are met thereafter its You are OK, I am OK if not I am ok and you are not OK.
Kindly remember there are no stock answeres for any questions; they all depend on who is asking and why? Responses are always person to person. One can give their opinions which one may accept or reject as no love is lost but that does not solve / change anything.
Real seekers have to face life / reality and then come to terms with it to move ahead.
Please do not take it as any criticism but just brotherly love.
Love & rgds
Just give an honest answere; is your love for fellow humans UNCONDITIONAL?
Humans are what you see and so can be talked / discussed about; BUT god, whom you do not know if there is one or not? how can it be discussed?
Deep down each one loves the other only to the extent his needs and wants are met thereafter its You are OK, I am OK if not I am ok and you are not OK.
Kindly remember there are no stock answeres for any questions; they all depend on who is asking and why? Responses are always person to person. One can give their opinions which one may accept or reject as no love is lost but that does not solve / change anything.
Real seekers have to face life / reality and then come to terms with it to move ahead.
Please do not take it as any criticism but just brotherly love.
Love & rgds
Bishadi
Active Member
God's love is unconditional. The Bible talks about that in many passages.
God will send you to hell not because His love is conditional, but because you chose not to follow Him. He still loves you and cares for you, but He can't force you to follow Him. Thus if you do get sent to hell, it is not because God doesn't love you but because you chose not to love Him back. It is your decision. Make your choice now!
God will send you to hell not because His love is conditional, but because you chose not to follow Him. He still loves you and cares for you, but He can't force you to follow Him. Thus if you do get sent to hell, it is not because God doesn't love you but because you chose not to love Him back. It is your decision. Make your choice now!
HOW?
For those that don't believe in him or are really bad people apparently go to hell. That seems like a condition to me.
God doesn't send anyone to hell. It is your decision. God offered His love to you through His Son--Jesus. He offered His Son for me for you and for everybody. He didn't keep it from anyone no matter how "bad" they were. This is unconditional love. Now it is your choice as to whether or not you want to accept that love. So if you do happen to go to hell, which I pray you don't, it is because of your choice, not God's. Make a choice now, while there is still time.
Bishadi
Active Member
is everyone your brother and sister? If so then everyone is 'through' god. If each letter you read in school to learn how to think, is knowledge from more than one contributer; then many of god children have enabled your understanding.
Which is true in the sense everything is god, so we are all of god but for your existence to have 'good' purpose within the conscious life, then each act of choice a person imposes to existence is what your ever lasting life remains. Good contributions live see JC,Darwin, confucius, as even after physical death they live in what they contributed.
Each person is within and of god, but them that live the longest in consciousness are them who do good.
knowledge
my sentiments exactly
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
Never knew all religions preached this!
idea
Question Everything
The more we love others, the more love we will feel loved. His love is not conditional, our ability to feel that love is.
a relashonship is not a one way thing, we have to learn to love too if we want it to be a relashonship. You can't expect to have a 2 way relashonship with anyone if you are unwilling to do anything.
OK - here are some scriptures if you want to see what the bible states...
there is always for God so loved the world - that sounds like everyone...
others sound rather conditional... God loves those who love Him and keep the commandments, love because of something we do... not mercy or love to all... only those who love can feel loved...
Deut. 5:10 shewing 10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I blay down my life, that I might take it again.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
logician
Well-Known Member
That's good, I don't want to go. All settled.
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
Because we all exist. Duh.
crystalonyx
Well-Known Member
Somehow this explanation seems inadequate.
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
I do not believe that God is some anthropomorphic deity who created the universe from a distance and then went on vacation. I believe that our very continued existence is dependent upon God's giving of Godself. God sustains us - all of us. God is the basis for existence, the "ground of being" as Paul Tillich put it. If that's not unconditional love, I don't know what is. Love is the very reason why this universe exists.
This is, btw, why Willamena's statement is absolutely true. All love is unconditional in that love recognizes that there is no difference between us. It is also why "Love God with all your heart" and "Love your neighbor as yourself" are ultimately the same. All of creation is an interdependent web, tied together in God.
Heneni
Miss Independent
You will not return to god unless you love him
He is love. You can only claim to love if you love him.
The measure with which you love god is the measure of how much he has forgiven you.
Those who love little have been forgiven little, and those that love much, have been forgiven much.
Heneni
Kcnorwood
Well-Known Member
I disagree sending people to hell makes Gods love conditional because its under those conditions that you worship him or not. IF you do not your going to hell. Would you send your child to hell of not doing everything you tell him/her to do?
Heneni
Miss Independent
Kcnorwood
Well-Known Member
Whos says that everyone thinks that in the first place? The only reason little kids are told this is because someone hopes that they will always believe it. As an adult they make thier own choices about what to believe.