monta
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Why would the bus shelter employees offer a gift of penises and vaginas to the city? You have the strangest customs there...
Haha, the deliberately misunderstanding the foreigner schtick, how droll.
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Is graffiti art or vandalism?
- Thread starter monta
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Haha, the deliberately misunderstanding the foreigner schtick, how droll.
dust1n
Zindīq
monta
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Ah. I see. Than I suppose it's taste.
I think the point he was making, was that if a area seemed like it was looked after then every level of crime dropped, not just vandalism, whereas the appearance of being unkempt made for higher levels of all crimes.
dust1n
Zindīq
I see. I'm going to have to pick it up now.
Did he say whether or not graffiti proceeded the crime rates, or the crime rates proceeded the graffiti?
monta
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You need to read it, it isn't about graffiti but it is very interesting. http://brothersjudd.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/reviews.detail/book_id/835/
DallasApple
Depends Upon My Mood..
I enjoy murals..
But I will say that I would consider it criminal if any Joe Blow decided that my brick walls of my house was for them to draw on for artistic expression..
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Dallas
But I will say that I would consider it criminal if any Joe Blow decided that my brick walls of my house was for them to draw on for artistic expression..
Love
Dallas
dust1n
Zindīq
That's understandable. But most graffiti lands on businesses or apartment buildings.
dust1n
Zindīq
It does seem a bit interesting. Thanks for sharing, I added it to my 'books to get' list.
DallasApple
Depends Upon My Mood..
dust1n
Zindīq
I would be more concerned with the people who work in the office or live in the apartment building.
I honestly don't see what the big deal is, unless the art is so completely obscene that it becomes inappropriate for it's location. Personally, I rather see art covering the buildings than the advertisements that do legally.
DallasApple
Depends Upon My Mood..
The big deal is I dont want my property covered in art work that I did not assign or approve of.
If you "personally " dont care thats fine..Let your property be covered by strangers who decided to cover it..There is nothing wrong with that since you dont care..
As well as I never said I didnt care about the workers or the inhabitants..They care too..
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Dallas
dust1n
Zindīq
LOL. Ok.
Personally, I don't want to look at private advertisements when I'm using a public system; but ya know.. people do things we don't want regardless.
Peacewise
Active Member
For me the picture/tag/paintwork is art, whilst putting it on someone else's property makes it vandalism.
Hence I think criminal art might be a decent enough term. I do appreciate the technical skill of some graffiti but I am totally against using someone else's property as the medium to display that skill.
If the graffiti artist had deep respect for their art they wouldn't use an impermanent medium that they have no control over for it's display surface.'
As for the name tags... well all I will say about them is TOY.
Hence I think criminal art might be a decent enough term. I do appreciate the technical skill of some graffiti but I am totally against using someone else's property as the medium to display that skill.
If the graffiti artist had deep respect for their art they wouldn't use an impermanent medium that they have no control over for it's display surface.'
As for the name tags... well all I will say about them is TOY.
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
San Fransico has the same kind history as LA. In fact people now give tours of the murals in the mission district. It's one of the beautiful gifts of Latino culture. It's art for the people.
.lava
Veteran Member
both IMO. having no graffiti on walls, painting them with certain colours could be a kind of vandalism in the eyes of artists
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dust1n
Zindīq
Here's a fun question;
What about public property? Post offices, court houses, etc.
It is both... it all depends on the context I guess.Personally I think it can be both, at the same time and independantly.
I used to commute by train to work and I remember one mural being constructed on my way for about a week, which was amazing and cheered me up,at 6am of a morning
Eventually it was cleaned up which seemed more like an act of vandalism then decorating the inside of a grey tunnel, to me anyway. What do you think about it, or do you think about it
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend Monta,
The following is what could be gathered and understood on the subject:
Graffiti is the name given to drawings, paintings or images or lettering scratched, scrawled, painted or marked in any manner on property (either legally or illegally).
Graffiti is regarded as art by those who create it, or as vandalism by many recipients. When painted like the images on this page, there is no doubt that graffiti is a form of art for sure.
Graffiti has existed since ancient times, with examples going back to Aincient Greece.
Graffiti art ranges from simple scratch marks to elaborate wall paintings.
In modern times, the materials used are spray paints and markers.
A lot of the time, graffiti is used by young people to communicate social and political messages.
To some, it is an art form worthy of display in galleries and exhibitions, to others it is merely vandalism.
There are many different types and styles of graffiti and it is a rapidly evolving artform.
[sorry could not upload the pictures]
Finally its the viewer's own perspective that decides what *graffiti* is for him/her and which could also be evolving/changing according to time, place, situation, the graffiti itself etc.
Love & rgds
The following is what could be gathered and understood on the subject:
Graffiti is the name given to drawings, paintings or images or lettering scratched, scrawled, painted or marked in any manner on property (either legally or illegally).
Graffiti is regarded as art by those who create it, or as vandalism by many recipients. When painted like the images on this page, there is no doubt that graffiti is a form of art for sure.
Graffiti has existed since ancient times, with examples going back to Aincient Greece.
Graffiti art ranges from simple scratch marks to elaborate wall paintings.
In modern times, the materials used are spray paints and markers.
A lot of the time, graffiti is used by young people to communicate social and political messages.
To some, it is an art form worthy of display in galleries and exhibitions, to others it is merely vandalism.
There are many different types and styles of graffiti and it is a rapidly evolving artform.
[sorry could not upload the pictures]
Finally its the viewer's own perspective that decides what *graffiti* is for him/her and which could also be evolving/changing according to time, place, situation, the graffiti itself etc.
Love & rgds