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is his opinion is fact or propaganda (lies) ?

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I'm not the best person to explain this, I think it is a bunch of nonsense. But Jesus comes back for everyone, and Israel must exist and rebuild the Temple first, according to many people. If anyone blows up Al Aqsa it is more likely to be Christians than Jews.
this is shocked me , why Christians want from Jews to blows up Alaqsa !!!

so rebuild Temple is what make God resent Messiah to Jews (not Christians) lol

so it's look about God need SAT dish (Temple)to re-send Jesus (pbuh) !!!


They are not as powerful as you think. But they do have support from a lot of people for very different reasons.
Tom
in extern US politic they are powerful than others lobbies , especially when it's comes about Israel (which concern me ) .
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
God need SAT dish (Temple)to re-send Jesus (pbuh) !!!
Religious people often believe things I do not.
Why would Allah need to send the Qur'an to Muhammad only? Why not send it to everybody everywhere at once?
I don't know, and it doesn't make sense to me at all.
Tom
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
in extern US politic they are powerful than others lobbies , especially when it's comes about Israel (which concern me )
I can understand why it would appear that way. But it is not really that simple, believe me.
It is like saying that the KSA supports terrorism because the mullahs want them to. Or Iran. It is just not true.
Tom
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I was talking about which take had almost full control on USA foreign politics , not
The Tech Lobby
or The Agribusiness ,
The Mining Industry


which one is top, is not AIPAC ?
Which foreign policy? Middle east? Asian? European? US foreign policy is a very complicated and diverse thing. And I will not pretend to be anything near an expert. But what I have found is that depending on what you believe, you can get whatever answer you want online.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I can understand why it would appear that way. But it is not really that simple, believe me.
It is like saying that the KSA supports terrorism because the mullahs want them to. Or Iran. It is just not true.
Tom
US vetoes UN resolution on Isreal settlements blocking democracy
Palestinian Statehood Vetoed By U.S. At The UN
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Which foreign policy? Middle east? Asian? European? US foreign policy is a very complicated and diverse thing. And I will not pretend to be anything near an expert. But what I have found is that depending on what you believe, you can get whatever answer you want online.
Middle east of course , specific Palestinians .
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
US vetoes UN resolution on Isreal settlements blocking democracy

I can not watch video on my phone. So I don't know what those say.
But one thing I do know is not to believe that people like that will tell the truth, especially on camera. They say what they think will work best and they will do what they think works best and their reasons for thinking that are rarely what they seem to be.
Tom
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Religious people often believe things I do not.
Why would Allah need to send the Qur'an to Muhammad only? Why not send it to everybody everywhere at once?
I don't know, and it doesn't make sense to me at all.
Tom
I don't have answser for now why God sent the Quran to Muhammad (pbuh) only ,not all people at once
i believe Islam is available for everybody and everywhere , but who don't heard about Muhammad (pbuh) God will not judged them as whom who heard about Muhammad (pbuh) , and not ISIS Islam of course .

Quran was available as books now it's available for everybody and everywhere and free .
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
this is shocked me , why Christians want from Jews to blows up Alaqsa !!!

so rebuild Temple is what make God resent Messiah to Jews (not Christians) lol

so it's look about God need SAT dish (Temple)to re-send Jesus (pbuh) !!!



in extern US politic they are powerful than others lobbies , especially when it's comes about Israel (which concern me ) .

Please don't generalize Christians. We are a very diverse group of people as are Muslims. To say that Christians in general want Jews to blow up Alaqsa is like someone saying all Muslims agree with terrorism. Neither stance is true. The ones that want that definitely do not represent me. All that would do is cause more bloodshed.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And where may we buy such a fine hat?:cool:
Funny you should ask......
th
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Please don't generalize Christians. We are a very diverse group of people as are Muslims. To say that Christians in general want Jews to blow up Alaqsa is like someone saying all Muslims agree with terrorism. Neither stance is true. The ones that want that definitely do not represent me. All that would do is cause more bloodshed.
sorry , i don't mean to generalize , that was slip comment :)

it's just new information come up
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
I was talking about which take had almost full control on USA foreign politics , not
The Tech Lobby
or The Agribusiness ,
The Mining Industry

You really don't get Lobbies do you?
The Technology Lobby has to counter foreign Technology and its impact on the market.
The Agriculture Lobby has to counter foreign Agriculture Imports and its impact on the market.
The Mining Lobby has to counter foreign Mining Imports and its impact on the market.

This has all to do with foreign policy. Which you won't be able to understand.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
You really don't get Lobbies do you?
The Technology Lobby has to counter foreign Technology and its impact on the market.
The Agriculture Lobby has to counter foreign Agriculture Imports and its impact on the market.
The Mining Lobby has to counter foreign Mining Imports and its impact on the market.

This has all to do with foreign policy. Which you won't be able to understand.
you seems don't understand me , i am talking about lobby (AIPAC) who effect on Palestinians life, ME politic
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Oh I understand what you wrote. You claim AIPAC is the Lobby with the most influence.

Which is wrong. You will ignore this and that is okay.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Oh I understand what you wrote. You claim AIPAC is the Lobby with the most influence.

Which is wrong. You will ignore this and that is okay.
the most influence in Palestine/Israel matter

the most influence lobby for collect money (and support) for Israel
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
I was talking about which take had almost full control on USA foreign politics , not
The Tech Lobby
or The Agribusiness ,
The Mining Industry


which one is top, is not AIPAC ?
YES -- Besides the ones which aren't AIPAC, which ones are AIPAC?
 
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