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is his opinion is fact or propaganda (lies) ?

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
Shias and Sunnis start killing each other after MORE after USA invade Iraq

Saudi Arabia host Mecca and Medina and very big media , so most of Muslims listen and may follow to their scholars .

These extremist scholars belong (could controled) by Saudi Arabia regime (agree ?),Saudi Arabia regime is follower (sheeps) to USA (agree ?) and USA policy dominated by AIPAC(agree ?),the result = AIPAC is root of the problem .

I hope you understand my view by linked all together ; I am talking about influence indirect and intervention of West (AIPAC) in Arab world .
No they did not.Remember the war between Iran and Iraq for more than 10 years in 80's. Also remember the war in Lebanon.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
No they did not.Remember the war between Iran and Iraq for more than 10 years in 80's. Also remember the war in Lebanon.
you think that USA had did not involve in Iran and Iraq war (10 years) , and Lebanon civil war ?
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
that when shown that there are a variety of PACs and lobbies which are equal or larger than AIPAC and which are also involved in shaping policy, foreign and domestic, you effectively say "yes, but I don't mean those."
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
that when shown that there are a variety of PACs and lobbies which are equal or larger than AIPAC and which are also involved in shaping policy, foreign and domestic, you effectively say "yes, but I don't mean those."
I explained what lobby is my concern , (Israel/Palestine conflict) and ME issues .

edited to add question :
whats biggest foreign politic Lobby in USA ?
for my opinion it's AIPAC .
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
I explained what lobby is my concern , (Israel/Palestine conflict) and ME issues .

edited to add question :
whats biggest foreign politic Lobby in USA ?
for my opinion it's AIPAC .
Oh, so you believe that a lobby which focuses on a particular issue has more influence on that issue than other lobbies which focus on other issues. Got it.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
you think that USA had did not involve in Iran and Iraq war (10 years) , and Lebanon civil war ?
Behind the scene scenarios may be the reason of troubles of islamic world. Putting the blame on ''somewhere'' never helped any nations.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Oh, so you believe that a lobby which focuses on a particular issue has more influence on that issue than other lobbies which focus on other issues. Got it.
that's it , AIPAC is focus on support Israel .
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Behind the scene scenarios may be the reason of troubles of islamic world. Putting the blame on ''somewhere'' never helped any nations.
so that's why i get upset when someone put whole the blame "just" on Muslims for civil wars (and it's consquence terrorism )

we are all responsible (Muslims and Westerns)
 
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