rosends
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swing and a miss.
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swing and a miss.
No they did not.Remember the war between Iran and Iraq for more than 10 years in 80's. Also remember the war in Lebanon.Shias and Sunnis start killing each other after MORE after USA invade Iraq
Saudi Arabia host Mecca and Medina and very big media , so most of Muslims listen and may follow to their scholars .
These extremist scholars belong (could controled) by Saudi Arabia regime (agree ?),Saudi Arabia regime is follower (sheeps) to USA (agree ?) and USA policy dominated by AIPAC(agree ?),the result = AIPAC is root of the problem .
I hope you understand my view by linked all together ; I am talking about influence indirect and intervention of West (AIPAC) in Arab world .
you think that USA had did not involve in Iran and Iraq war (10 years) , and Lebanon civil war ?No they did not.Remember the war between Iran and Iraq for more than 10 years in 80's. Also remember the war in Lebanon.
point ?swing and a miss.
that when shown that there are a variety of PACs and lobbies which are equal or larger than AIPAC and which are also involved in shaping policy, foreign and domestic, you effectively say "yes, but I don't mean those."point ?
I explained what lobby is my concern , (Israel/Palestine conflict) and ME issues .that when shown that there are a variety of PACs and lobbies which are equal or larger than AIPAC and which are also involved in shaping policy, foreign and domestic, you effectively say "yes, but I don't mean those."
Oh, so you believe that a lobby which focuses on a particular issue has more influence on that issue than other lobbies which focus on other issues. Got it.I explained what lobby is my concern , (Israel/Palestine conflict) and ME issues .
edited to add question :
whats biggest foreign politic Lobby in USA ?
for my opinion it's AIPAC .
Behind the scene scenarios may be the reason of troubles of islamic world. Putting the blame on ''somewhere'' never helped any nations.you think that USA had did not involve in Iran and Iraq war (10 years) , and Lebanon civil war ?
that's it , AIPAC is focus on support Israel .Oh, so you believe that a lobby which focuses on a particular issue has more influence on that issue than other lobbies which focus on other issues. Got it.
so that's why i get upset when someone put whole the blame "just" on Muslims for civil wars (and it's consquence terrorism )Behind the scene scenarios may be the reason of troubles of islamic world. Putting the blame on ''somewhere'' never helped any nations.