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Is Homosexuality a illness? And how to heal?

gsa

Well-Known Member
Physicists haven't been taught directly by our Creator like God's saints were but they know the body is nothing but an illusion. According to physics, we shouldn't even be living. This is why they are now studying "consciousness", which is God's computing language called waves or vibrations.

Way above my pay grade Deepak.
 

sampuna

Member
who'd come out with the idea that it is an illness? IMHO it is another behavioural pattern. Moral or immoral applies as in any other forms of sexual identity relating to the way the relationship is carried out.

All forms of sexual relationship begins with some form of sensual craving. consensual relationship, be it mutually, culturally or religiously can be said to be moral. rape is immoral as it hurts one party to satisfy another.
 

Selinagirl

Member
that is wrong. adam did not sin because the sin was eve's only. she was the only one who should have been punished. god should have made woman from clay anew.
Adam ate from the fruit, so he was also a sinner. By the way, God made Lilith from clay, side by side with Adam. MakingEve from Adams delicious ribs was just the second building of a woman.
 

thevoiceofgod

Active Member
that is wrong. adam did not sin because the sin was eve's only. she was the only one who should have been punished. god should have made woman from clay anew.

God's people have always blamed everything but God. All we had to do was listen to His Voice and obey His commandments like God's saints do to learn everything He wanted us to know during this first age. Adam and Eve stopped listening to His commandments. It wasn't until the saints started testifying to His Word that we learned why sin existed in this world.
 

Selinagirl

Member
who'd come out with the idea that it is an illness? IMHO it is another behavioural pattern. Moral or immoral applies as in any other forms of sexual identity relating to the way the relationship is carried out.

All forms of sexual relationship begins with some form of sensual craving. consensual relationship, be it mutually, culturally or religiously can be said to be moral. rape is immoral as it hurts one party to satisfy another.
Even rape was moral in the Bible, as the twelve Tribes took over Israel they took the women of some of the defeated nations as their wifes, what was not seen as rape.
 

chevron1

Active Member
Adam ate from the fruit, so he was also a sinner. By the way, God made Lilith from clay, side by side with Adam. MakingEve from Adams delicious ribs was just the second building of a woman.

that is kabbalistic clap trap. adam and eve are brother and sister, no matter what the reason for lilith. adam and eve sinned. the jewish world of interpretation is only a bandaid for scripture inconsistency and for life.
 

sampuna

Member
Even rape was moral in the Bible, as the twelve Tribes took over Israel they took the women of some of the defeated nations as their wifes, what was not seen as rape.
I've got no idea of that incident, its historical & philosophical context, but I'd say a Win-Win resultant would be moral.
 

thevoiceofgod

Active Member
what saints are these? where in scripture are they mentioned? what are their names?

The names of the saints aren't important. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God that are important.

Ephesians 1
1: Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are also faithful in Christ Jesus:
2: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
4: even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him.
5:He destined us in love to be his sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,
9: For he has made known to us in all wisdom and insight the mystery of his will, according to his purpose which he set forth in Christ
10: as a plan for the fulness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.
 

Selinagirl

Member
The names of the saints aren't important. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God that are important.

Ephesians 1
1: Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are also faithful in Christ Jesus:
2: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
4: even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him.
5:He destined us in love to be his sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,
9: For he has made known to us in all wisdom and insight the mystery of his will, according to his purpose which he set forth in Christ
10: as
that is kabbalistic clap trap. adam and eve are brother and sister, no matter what the reason for lilith. adam and eve sinned. the jewish world of interpretation is only a bandaid for scripture inconsistency and for life.
As Eve was made out of Adams rib, she was more his daughter.
 

thevoiceofgod

Active Member
what prophecies are true, please?

Isaiah 43
1: But now thus says the LORD, he who created you, O Jacob, he who formed you, O Israel: "Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name, you are mine. 2: When you pass through the waters I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you.

Isaiah 40
1: Comfort, comfort my people, says your God. 2: Speak tenderly to Jerusalem, and cry to her that her warfare is ended, that her iniquity is pardoned, that she has received from the LORD's hand double for all her sins.

Isaiah 45:
20: "Assemble yourselves and come, draw near together, you survivors of the nations! They have no knowledge who carry about their wooden idols, and keep on praying to a god that cannot save. 21: Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me. 22:"Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other.
23: By myself I have sworn, from my mouth has gone forth in righteousness a word that shall not return: `To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.'
24: "Only in the LORD, it shall be said of me, are righteousness and strength; to him shall come and be ashamed, all who were incensed against him. 25: In the LORD all the offspring of Israel shall triumph and glory."

Isaiah 25
6: On this mountain the LORD of hosts will make for all peoples a feast of fat things, a feast of wine on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wine on the lees well refined. 7: And he will destroy on this mountain the covering that is cast over all peoples, the veil that is spread over all nations. 8: He will swallow up death for ever, and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from all faces, and the reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth; for the LORD has spoken. 9: It will be said on that day, "Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, that he might save us. This is the LORD; we have waited for him; let us be glad and rejoice in his salvation."

Zephaniah 3:
8: "Therefore wait for me," says the LORD, "for the day when I arise as a witness. For my decision is to gather nations, to assemble kingdoms, to pour out upon them my indignation, all the heat of my anger; for in the fire of my jealous wrath all the earth shall be consumed. 9: "Yea, at that time I will change the speech of the peoples to a pure speech, that all of them may call on the name of the LORD and serve him with one accord.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep. 23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd. 24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken. 25: "I will make with them a covenant of peace and banish wild beasts from the land, so that they may dwell securely in the wilderness and sleep in the woods. 26: And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will send down the showers in their season; they shall be showers of blessing. 27: And the trees of the field shall yield their fruit, and the earth shall yield its increase, and they shall be secure in their land; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I break the bars of their yoke, and deliver them from the hand of those who enslaved them. 28: They shall no more be a prey to the nations, nor shall the beasts of the land devour them; they shall dwell securely, and none shall make them afraid. 29: And I will provide for them prosperous plantations so that they shall no more be consumed with hunger in the land, and no longer suffer the reproach of the nations. 30: And they shall know that I, the LORD their God, am with them, and that they, the house of Israel, are my people, says the Lord GOD.
31: And you are my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, and I am your God, says the Lord GOD."

Ezekiel 37
21: then say to them, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I will take the people of Israel from the nations among which they have gone, and will gather them from all sides, and bring them to their own land; 22: and I will make them one nation in the land, upon the mountains of Israell; and one king shall be king over them all; and they shall be no longer two nations, and no longer divided into two kingdoms.23: They shall not defile themselves any more with their idols and their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions; but I will save them from all the backslidings in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them; and they shall be my people, and I will be their God. 24: "My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow my ordinances and be careful to observe my statutes.
25: They shall dwell in the land where your fathers dwelt that I gave to my servant Jacob; they and their children and their children's children shall dwell there for ever; and David my servant shall be their prince for ever. 26: I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will bless them and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27: My dwelling place shall be with them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 28: Then the nations will know that I the LORD sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary is in the midst of them for evermore."

Ezekiel 39
25: "Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Now I will restore the fortunes of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel; and I will be jealous for my holy name. 26: They shall forget their shame, and all the treachery they have practiced against me, when they dwell securely in their land with none to make them afraid, 27: when I have brought them back from the peoples and gathered them from their enemies' lands, and through them have vindicated my holiness in the sight of many nations. 28: Then they shall know that I am the LORD their God because I sent them into exile among the nations, and then gathered them into their own land. I will leave none of them remaining among the nations any more; 29: and I will not hide my face any more from them, when I pour out my Spirit upon the house of Israel, says the Lord GOD."

Jeremiah 31
31: "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
32: not like the covenant which I made with their fathers when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant which they broke, though I was their husband, says the LORD.
33: But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it upon their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34: And no longer shall each man teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, `Know the LORD,' for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, says the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."


Isaiah 65

16: So that he who blesses himself in the land shall bless himself by the God of truth, and he who takes an oath in the land shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten and are hid from my eyes. 17: "For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.
18: But be glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create; for behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. 19:I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and be glad in my people; no more shall be heard in it the sound of weeping and the cry of distress.
 

chevron1

Active Member
Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep. 23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd. 24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken. 25: "I will make with them a covenant of peace and banish wild beasts from the land, so that theiy may dwell securely in the wilderness and sleep in the woods.

if the lord will save his flock, who will save the lord, and who will save jesus?
 

thevoiceofgod

Active Member
that means only that we are saved before we have sinned. so there is no sin, right?

We were created in the invisible thoughts of God ( breath of life ). The flesh that we perceive with our senses are only illusions. The flesh is the proud and wicked of the earth and the sinners that will be destroyed by the end of this age.


Psalm 22:
25: From thee comes my praise in the great congregation; my vows I will pay before those who fear him. 26: The afflicted shall eat and be satisfied; those who seek him shall praise the LORD! May your hearts live for ever! 27: All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the LORD; and all the families of the nations shall worship before him. 28: For dominion belongs to the LORD, and he rules over the nations. 29: Yea, to him shall all the proud of the earth bow down; before him shall bow all who go down to the dust, and he who cannot keep himself alive. 30: Posterity shall serve him; men shall tell of the Lord to the coming generation, 31: and proclaim his deliverance to a people yet unborn, that he has wrought it.

The flesh are only illusions that cannot be used in Paradise. We will get new flesh in the New Heaven and Earth.


Ezekiel 37:
1: The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; it was full of bones. 2: And he led me round among them; and behold, there were very many upon the valley; and lo, they were very dry. 3: And he said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, thou knowest." 4: Again he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. 5: Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live. 6: And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the LORD."
7: So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, a rattling; and the bones came together, bone to its bone. 8: And as I looked, there were sinews on them, and flesh had come upon them, and skin had covered them; but there was no breath in them. 9: Then he said to me, "Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, Thus says the Lord GOD: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live." 10: So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, an exceedingly great host. 11: Then he said to me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Behold, they say, `Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are clean cut off.' 12: Therefore prophesy, and say to them, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I will open your graves, and raise you from your graves, O my people; and I will bring you home into the land of Israel. 13: And you shall know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves, and raise you from your graves, O my people. 14: And I will put my Spirit within you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land; then you shall know that I, the LORD, have spoken, and I have done it, says the LORD."
 
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