Is Homosexuality a illness? And how to heal?

[chevron1]

It's not about choice....it's about love. Love sees with eyes, or least real true love, with eyes that don't see gender or whatever "apparatus" one comes equipped with. And in fact, sex is a small part of real love which after 50 or so years becomes even less so. So your point would be.....what? That I can't make up my mind? Nothing could be further from the truth.

it's not about love; its about versatility and social pressure, because if you are gay, then you don't want to date other than men. however if you only date men, now social pressure says that you are not generous with our love. it's all the same. in san francisco, all the gay clubs are now becoming coed. there is no more cruising or very little cruising and although there is a gay community that comes out on gay pride, i don't see it much any other time. and i spend lots of time on the street looking for it.

it's as though the religious right won after all. that's why there is all these hidden options for gay therapy. gay men are slowly herded into the bisex mentality. prove to me otherwise.

 

[thevoiceofgod]

One man was created both male and female. Adam, the male flesh and Eve, the female flesh were the only one's who was formed in two bodies. All their offspring were only formed in one body, both male and female. Cain and Abel both should have had partners to be with each other forever.

Jesus knew that man was created both male and female and that in Paradise, they will leave their father and mother and cleave to each other as one without ever getting married or divorced.

Matthew 19
3: And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, "Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?"
4: He answered, "Have you not read that he who made them from the beginning made them male and female,
5: and said, `For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?
6: So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder."

This will happen to ALL God's created men in Paradise. They will be formed as two bodies. One will be a male and the other a female. They will be partners forever.

 

[gsa]

No biologist will ever learn how we were created. In fact, many biologists are simply amazed at the miracles of what they perceive in their studies. I have talked to a few of them who came to believe in God because of what they observed.

I agree that they are unlikely to learn how we were created. They may yet learn quite a bit about how we evolved, however.

 

[philbo]

No biologist will ever learn how we were created. In fact, many biologists are simply amazed at the miracles of what they perceive in their studies. I have talked to a few of them who came to believe in God because of what they observed.

It's funny: the more I've found out about the various mechanisms within the body, from a cellular level, through organs to a complex whole, the less designed it looks. Most of it only really makes sense once you consider a myriad different bits in weird feedback loops that wouldn't have been designed that way by a committee on LSD, all came about because it kind of worked & has involved millions of tweaks over the aeons.

 

[chevron1]

One man was created both male and female. Adam, the male flesh and Eve, the female flesh were the only one's who was formed in two bodies. All their offspring were only formed in one body, both male and female. Cain and Abel both should have had partners to be with each other forever.

adam and eve were brother and sister. god could have created eve from clay but made her from his body instead. she is his sister and sibling and they are incestuous. do you disagree?

 

[thevoiceofgod]

I agree that they are unlikely to learn how we were created. They may yet learn quite a bit about how we evolved, however.

The flesh of this world does evolve, decay and die but in Paradise, our bodies will never evolve, decay or die. In fact, we're going to experience life in many different bodies. We won't have the need for any internal organs because we will know that our bodies are only illusions that aren't real.

 

[thevoiceofgod]

It's funny: the more I've found out about the various mechanisms within the body, from a cellular level, through organs to a complex whole, the less designed it looks. Most of it only really makes sense once you consider a myriad different bits in weird feedback loops that wouldn't have been designed that way by a committee on LSD, all came about because it kind of worked & has involved millions of tweaks over the aeons.

Some see chaos while others see harmony. It all depends on what perspective our Creator gave you during this first age.

 

[chevron1]

The flesh of this world does evolve, decay and die but in Paradise, our bodies will never evolve, decay or die. In fact, we're going to experience life in many different bodies. We won't have the need for any internal organs because we will know that our bodies are only illusions that aren't real.

that is buddhist philosophy mostly. if true, then the world is an illusion as you say. do we need healthcare? do you we true compassion?

 

[thevoiceofgod]

adam and eve were brother and sister. god could have created eve from clay but made her from his body instead. she is his sister and sibling and they are incestuous. do you disagree?

They were ONE created man, created as male and female. Adam was the male part of man and Eve is the female part. In Paradise, you will awaken with a perfect partner of the opposite sex and be with that partner in every vision and dream you experience.

 

[gsa]

The flesh of this world does evolve, decay and die but in Paradise, our bodies will never evolve, decay or die. In fact, we're going to experience life in many different bodies. We won't have the need for any internal organs because we will know that our bodies are only illusions that aren't real.

Well this is where we part ways. A human body without internal organs is not a human body as I understand it. And that's just one of many problems with the idea of bodily resurrection, a highly improbable mechanism for life after death.

 

[chevron1]

They were ONE created man, created as male and female. Adam was the male part of man and Eve is the female part. In Paradise, you will awaken with a perfect partner of the opposite sex and be with that partner in every vision and dream you experience.

1. it doesn't matter if male and female were one. masturbation which is sex with yourself is still wrong. they are incestuous by definition and they have sinned. god gave them a paradox to solve and they solved it by sinning.
2. in paradise you will awaken with the perfect partner of your choice regardless of gender.

 

[thevoiceofgod]

that is buddhist philosophy mostly. if true, then the world is an illusion as you say. do we need healthcare? do you we true compassion?

Everything we observe in this world from each of our created perspectives are only illusions. This is what God's first saints were taught but religious antichrists made sure all their original writings were destroyed that showed how God created everything. They didn't have modern technology like we have today but God used other visible and invisible objects to show His saints that we were all created in an invisible realm before we appeared as visible people. That invisible realm happens to be vibrations ( waves ), which are the heavens that the saints were writing about.

 

[thevoiceofgod]

Well this is where we part ways. A human body without internal organs is not a human body as I understand it. And that's just one of many problems with the idea of bodily resurrection, a highly improbable mechanism for life after death.

Our Creator's design for the flesh in His first part of His virtual program was meant to make us look very real. In Paradise, we won't need to eat food to nourish our bodies because we won't have internal organs. We will know that every object we perceive is only an illusion. Most physicists today understand that our bodies are not what they appear to be.

 

[chevron1]

all their original writings were destroyed that showed how God created everything. They didn't have modern technology like we have today but God used other visible and invisible objects to show His saints that we were all created in an invisible realm before we appeared as visible people. That invisible realm happens to be vibrations ( waves ), which are the heavens that the saints were writing about.

if they were all destroyed where then does this theory come from? did you make it up wholesale? we are talking about god of the christian world only. where did you find this theology if all the scriptures were destroyed?

 

[thevoiceofgod]

1. it doesn't matter if male and female were one. masturbation which is sex with yourself is still wrong. they are incestuous by definition and they have sinned. god gave them a paradox to solve and they solved it by sinning.
2. in paradise you will awaken with the perfect partner of your choice regardless of gender.

Every flesh that had sexual intercourse with another flesh committed adultery. This means it was impossible for God's people to obey His commandments.

 

[gsa]

Our Creator's design for the flesh in His first part of His virtual program was meant to make us look very real. In Paradise, we won't need to eat food to nourish our bodies because we won't have internal organs. We will know that every object we perceive is only an illusion. Most physicists today understand that our bodies are not what they appear to be.

I am not aware of any physicists who suggest that we will resurrect without internal organs. It is kind of amusing I might add, how the limits of the flesh and procreation are reified in your theology. Gender exists in this paradise, but why? Doesn't seem that there would be any need sex distinctions.

 

[chevron1]

Every flesh that had sexual intercourse with another flesh committed adultery. This means it was impossible for God's people to obey His commandments.

that is wrong. adam did not sin because the sin was eve's only. she was the only one who should have been punished. god should have made woman from clay anew.

 

[thevoiceofgod]

if they were all destroyed where then does this theory come from? did you make it up wholesale? we are talking about god of the christian world only. where did you find this theology if all the scriptures were destroyed?

Not all their writings got destroyed or the memorized ideas that antichrists ( religious Jews and gentiles ) used in their religious groups to start Christianity with. Christianity is a mix of Jewish traditions, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman ideas along with a few ideas stolen from the saints. The new testament was written and produced by religious antichrists while God's saints were being killed by the Roman guards. By 325 a.d., Christianity was flourishing throughout the Roman Empire so the Roman Emperor Constantine announced that Christianity was the main religion. He made himself the first pope to be in charge of this religion.

It took quite awhile to produce the official ( canonized ) new testament writings because they had to see how they worked to control their Christians.

 

[chevron1]

Roman ideas along with a few ideas stolen from the saints. The new testament was written and produced by religious antichrists while God's saints were being killed by the Roman guards. By 325 a.d., Christianity was flourishing throughout the Roman Empire so the Roman Emperor Constantine announced that Christianity was the main religion. He made himself the first pope to be in charge of this religion.

It took quite awhile to produce the official ( canonized ) new testament writings because they had to see how they worked to control their Christians.

the so-called writings that survived seem to be apocryphal, so for all any know, the vision of life and afterlife are not divine nature after all.

 

[thevoiceofgod]

I am not aware of any physicists who suggest that we will resurrect without internal organs. It is kind of amusing I might add, how the limits of the flesh and procreation are reified in your theology. Gender exists in this paradise, but why? Doesn't seem that there would be any need sex distinctions.

Physicists haven't been taught directly by our Creator like God's saints were but they know the body is nothing but an illusion. According to physics, we shouldn't even be living. This is why they are now studying "consciousness", which is God's computing language called waves or vibrations.