Is Homosexuality a illness? And how to heal?

[columbus]

http://taocurrents.org/2014/12/08/neidan-t-shirt-test-for-couples-compatibility/

Ha ha ha!
A link to a T-Shirt company is what you consider "clinical data".
Oh, I see.

Tom

 

[Wat_i.need]

gay men and women are not fully compatible.

TRUE incompatible also means abnormal; out of nature and so on.

 

[ether-ore]

Sadly, I am not gay, so I don't really know, what I am talking about.

I heard some stories on the internet, how homosexuals changed. Science is ignoring healing gays and labeling it as a "normal condition that doesnt need cure" because of following reasons:

- Psychology is not advanced enough to heal it, attempts failed miserably
- Most homosexuals who changed, did it with the help of God
- Gays aren't causing any trouble
- Gays are happy/accepted with their condition
- We don't know the reasons for homosexuality, so it must be "normal"
(The argument, that says homosexuality is normal, because animals also can be gay is flawed. With this resoning it should be seen as normal to eat the partner after sex, because it is normal for animals)



Pedophilia is a psychological disorder that makes people sexualy attracted to the wrong group of people.¨
Homosexuality makes people sexually attracted to the wrong group of people.

Why is pedophilia considered a cureable phycological disorder, and homosexuality is labeled a normal condition? I really don't know, I guess it is because of some of the 5 reasons above. A pedophile is more likely to heal, because he is not socially accepted like homosexuals. Changing sexual attraction requires really hard work. Homosexuals don't feel the need to change their sexual orientation like pedophiles, because homosexuality is socially accepted. But there are stories, where homosexuals really wanted to change, put in the work, prayed to God, and changed their sexual orientation.

Amen

 

[dgirl1986]

what do you mean "unbias"?

Do you know what bias is?

 

[chevron1]

Ha ha ha!
A link to a T-Shirt company is what you consider "clinical data".

in the introduction to the article are links to 4 (i believe) clinical studies.

 

[chevron1]

Amen

does amen still have power? they say the new ending is: Men-A.

 

[ether-ore]

Do you know what bias is?

Is that someone who is part of the LBGT community? <grin>

 

[chevron1]

Is that someone who is part of the LBGT community? <grin>

r u grinning because the G is now closer to T in LGBT now is LBGT.

baphomet is a transgender satan. he is now on the rise. can you see him? you certainly can in detroit. <grin>

 

[ether-ore]

"r u grinning because the G is now closer to T in LGBT now is LBGT. "baphomet is a transgender satan. he is now on the rise. can you see him? you certainly can in detroit. <grin>

Sorry, I didn't realize there was some sensitivity over the placement of the letters... and what's with the ugly goat thingy?

 

[chevron1]

"r u grinning because the G is now closer to T in LGBT now is LBGT. "baphomet is a transgender satan. he is now on the rise. can you see him? you certainly can in detroit. <grin>

Sorry, I didn't realize there was some sensitivity over the placement of the letters... and what's with the ugly goat thingy?

the sensitivity over the letters is because u understand the rise trans-gays who are losing their choice to be gay only.

the ugly goat thingy is baphomet the satanic goat of intersex kind.

 

[ether-ore]

the sensitivity over the letters is because u understand the rise trans-gays who are losing their choice to be gay only.

the ugly goat thingy is baphomet the satanic goat of intersex kind.

Losing their choice to be gay only? How and to or from whom? Are trans-gays being rejected by the LGBT community?

 

[chevron1]

Losing their choice to be gay only? How and to or from whom? Are trans-gays being rejected by the LGBT community?

the best evidence is stephenie robinson, a man years ago who became a woman because the doctor told him that his libido was uncontrollable lust because he was meant to be a woman. gays have uncontrollable lust. hence they are becoming women with the help of religion who knock out the gays before injecting them with trans hormones.

they are less accepted because they do not know how to be men with lust anymore. witness in san francisco, there is so little cruising that we do not remember it anymore.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/transgend...oming-woman-wasnt-even-091427373.html#aVtdiOK

 

[ether-ore]

the best evidence is stephenie robinson, a man years ago who became a woman because the doctor told him that his libido was uncontrollable lust because he was meant to be a woman. gays have uncontrollable lust. hence they are becoming women with the help of religion who knock out the gays before injecting them with trans hormones.

they are less accepted because they do not know how to be men with lust anymore. witness in san francisco, there is so little cruising that we do not remember it anymore.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/transgend...oming-woman-wasnt-even-091427373.html#aVtdiOK

Am I understanding you correctly? Men are becoming women in order to control lust?

 

[chevron1]

Am I understanding you correctly? Men are becoming women in order to control lust?

well that's what happened to stephenie robinson and i hear it isn't all that difficult to do. the picture below is from the movie xxx:state of the union. that's the injection point at the center x. that's the needle contents being xx or estrogen. the best kind of estrogen is DES (Diethylstilbestrol) to transgenderize because it is a very potent synthetic estrogen.

 

[philbo]

that's not what i'm saying. i am saying that transgenderization is ONE therapy out there and it is being given to gay men who don't know better.

What????

You're saying that changing gender is a therapy for sexual orientation?

the best evidence is stephenie robinson, a man years ago who became a woman because the doctor told him that his libido was uncontrollable lust because he was meant to be a woman. gays have uncontrollable lust. hence they are becoming women with the help of religion who knock out the gays before injecting them with trans hormones.

they are less accepted because they do not know how to be men with lust anymore. witness in san francisco, there is so little cruising that we do not remember it anymore.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/transgend...oming-woman-wasnt-even-091427373.html#aVtdiOK

If this is your idea of evidence, let alone "the best evidence", an n=1 case upon which you make sweeping and crassly inaccurate generalizations, you really need to learn a bit about what evidence is, how to evaluate and balance sources etc. That is, if you want to be taken seriously & avoid being openly laughed at by people who do have a semblance of an understanding.

 

[JoStories]

So the whacky story of 1 person is your reason for suggesting all gay people change genders? I do not want to be a man. No thank you.

Agreed. I am quite happy being a gay, or rather Bisexual woman.

 

[JoStories]

what do you mean "unbias"?

A valid and reliable study, two of the things that MUST be part of any credible scientific study, would be written in APA format. It would contain control and experimental groups, all of which would be 'blind' to the experimenters. Then, the dependent and independent variables would be introduced into the study for however long the scientists had chosen to study. Could be as short as a month or as long as a decade. After which all the data would be collated and studied for effect. To make this easier for you, let's say a scientist wanted to study dreams in people who take sleeping pills. Two groups would be identified. Both would be given ''pills' but no one would know who got the sleeping pill and who got the placebo until the study was done. Dreams would be reported and data collected and then the study would be analyzed and compared to peer reviewed studies of a like nature. THAT is valid and reliable.

 

[chevron1]

Agreed. I am quite happy being a gay, or rather Bisexual woman.

bisexual is another way of saying i want to be no-sexual.

 

[chevron1]

What????

You're saying that changing gender is a therapy for sexual orientation?

changing gender is the best solution for no solution to be gay.

If this is your idea of evidence, let alone "the best evidence", an n=1 case upon which you make sweeping and crassly inaccurate generalizations, you really need to learn a bit about what evidence is, how to evaluate and balance sources etc. That is, if you want to be taken seriously & avoid being openly laughed at by people who do have a semblance of an understanding.

my undestanding of clinical trials is that they already know the numbers that work.

 

[philbo]

changing gender is the best solution for no solution to be gay.

That is utter nonsense. I've got a lot of gay friends, all of them perfectly happy to be the sex that they are. It's people like you who do their damnedest to make them unhappy: without you, there'd not even be the suggestion that they need to change.

my undestanding of clinical trials is that they already know the numbers that work.

From what I can read in this thread, your understanding of clinical trials is non-existent. If you think what you have described anywhere constitutes a clinical trial, I suggest you read up on the Dunning Kruger effect, and try and work out why I think that's relevant.