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Is Homosexuality a illness? And how to heal?

philbo

High Priest of Cynicism
who said that i was "trying to help"? who am i trying to help, do u think? what i am trying to do is to spread information. that is all. when i said i was an intercession messenger, i meant i was an intercession messenger. as for arrogance and ignorance, just what does that mean in the face of evidence that although not convincing to you "the knowledgeable" is a matter of concern because it is PLAUSIBLE. if you don't want to believe it, then don't believe it, but don't censor what i'm saying.
You're trying to spread misinformation, as far as I can tell. I would have said "lies", but I'm feeling generous and think it's lack of understanding rather than wilfull knowingly disseminating untruths. You say "don't censor what I'm saying", obviously I don't have that power, and I don't think I'd use it even if I did.. but someone with a modicum of self-awareness and an even partly-functioning brain might realize that self-censorship until some understanding had been gained might actually be a profitable course. You've pretty much destroyed any credibility you might have had elsewhere: I for one am not going to give any weight to anything you post anywhere else on here because of the way you've behaved in this thread, and I bet I'm not the only one.

As for who said that you were trying to help:
philbo, the answer to why i "keep pretending otherwise" is bill walker, alias william lucas walker.

bill walker came to san francisco in 2005 to see if he could help a man be a better man. those are bill's photos over me. he was always ready to help ...
..I would have said the implication was there in what you wrote. Wouldn't you?
 

chevron1

Active Member
You're trying to spread misinformation.... You've pretty much destroyed any credibility you might have had elsewhere: I for one am not going to give any weight to anything you post anywhere else on here because of the way you've behaved in this thread, and I bet I'm not the only one.

As for who said that you were trying to help: .... I would have said the implication was there in what you wrote. Wouldn't you?

no, i did not say i was trying to help. i said that bill walker was the type who wanted to help. as for misinformation, it doesn't hurt anyone because if you want the therapy legitimately, you must talk to a doctor. it is the illegitimate therapists that concern me if they don't exist, there's no problem.
 

philbo

High Priest of Cynicism
no, i did not say i was trying to help. i said that bill walker was the type who wanted to help. as for misinformation, it doesn't hurt anyone because if you want the therapy legitimately, you must talk to a doctor. it is the illegitimate therapists that concern me if they don't exist, there's no problem.
True, you didn't say you were trying to help, but you did say the reason you kept pretending you knew something about this was Bill Walker, and the quote about him uses the word "help" twice in the first line. So, maybe you'd like to answer the question I actually asked, wouldn't you agree that the implication is there? I didn't say that you'd said you were trying to help, but what you wrote definitely implied it.

As for misiniformation.. are you now agreeing that what you've posted in this thread is misinformation, but you think that doesn't matter as it doesn't hurt anyone?
 

chevron1

Active Member
True, you didn't say you were trying to help, but you did say the reason you kept pretending you knew something about this was Bill Walker, and the quote about him uses the word "help" twice in the first line.....As for misiniformation.. are you now agreeing that what you've posted in this thread is misinformation, but you think that doesn't matter as it doesn't hurt anyone?

my help is being a messenger for another party. that's all. as for misinformation, it is information with evidence. that is all.
 

philbo

High Priest of Cynicism
my help is being a messenger for another party. that's all.
So.. does that mean your being a messenger is intended as "trying to help"? Which is what you flat out contradicted above.

as for misinformation, it is information with evidence. that is all.
I realize that's what you think it is, but as has been pointed out on many occasions, your "evidence" has not always been accurate and on many occasions has not actually supported the information; what you have linked to as "evidence" has contradicted what you have been saying. Which is why understanding is so important: you might think you've been imparting "information with evidence", but it's not. And the simple fact that you seem unable to realize that is why I strongly suggest you refrain from attempting to impart "information with evidence" until you actually have some, and can understand what it is you have and have some evidence that actually does support what you're saying.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
no, i did not say i was trying to help. i said that bill walker was the type who wanted to help. as for misinformation, it doesn't hurt anyone because if you want the therapy legitimately, you must talk to a doctor. it is the illegitimate therapists that concern me if they don't exist, there's no problem.
Many times the stuff you have posted condones this "illegitimate" therapy, and very frequently you have posted misinformation that is so bad you aren't even getting the terms right. Such as your "advice" about gays undergoing the process of a sex change, despite the fact there is not one single doctor--of psychology, psychiatry, or medical--who will endorse or support such a thing, and they will not, under any circumstances or even for a moment, consider doing it on a child because the parents don't want a child who is homosexual. But that is what your "advice" is.
 

chevron1

Active Member
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chevron1

Active Member
I realize that's what you think it is, but as has been pointed out on many occasions, your "evidence" has not always been accurate and on many occasions has not actually supported the information....

were u talking about trans-gay therapy?

>> the real way to be straight is to no longer be attracted just to women. you want to be bi, be bi is the new mantra: be bi and sigh your gentle love to women. here's how to do it:


>>Ex Gay therapy being flawed is deterrent. Many people want to switch their gender (such as the satanic Baphomet worshipers), they don't want to be, what they are. And many people don't want to be gay anymore, for various reasons.

There is a terrible therapy that is given to gays against their will and its important to talk about it, because it is rumored to be religious workers who advocate it and perpetrate forced chemical conversion. It's called trans-gay therapy. A friend told me that the movie "xxx: state of the union" starring vin diesel was a subtle allegory about gay reparative therapy, especially trans-gay therapy.

Below are pictures from the movie. in the top picture, the xxx tattoo on the back of the neck represents what this friend calls "trans-gay" therapy: the center x marks the injection point into the brain stem, the x's on either side represent the contents of the hypodermic - estrogen. In the bottom picture, the star vin diesel wears a motocycle pants with a black panel in the crotch area symbolizing castration due to estrogen exposure. It is called "trans-gay" therapy because it is supposed to transform a gay man into a transgender man by direct injection of trans hormones into the brain to feminize the brain only without affecting the body. this way he becomes and thinks like a woman, but they are hoping it will change his orientation too. they tell me that sometimes a gay will attend a party and then is knocked out with something like GHB and then he is injected and wakes up without knowing what happened.

The form of estrogen was used in the 1940s for chemical castration and is called Diethylstilbestrol or DES. According to the wikipedia, DES was once given to pregnant women and has a history of causing transgenderism in boys. Because Bruce Jenner has been transitioning to a woman, there has been some speculation about changes to his sexual orientation. It seems that over 60% of men who undergo transition by estrogen have some kind of change in their orientation: either they become bisexual or straight. I am afraid they suffer brain damage too (reduced brain volume, psychosis, lethargy) in addition to becoming like women and they never feel true love any more. That makes me think that there might be too much trade-off, because you're never the man you used to be.

Link added: 5/29/15

Bruce Jenner: Sexual Orientation Uncertain After Cross Sex Hormone Therapy

Picture added: 5/29/15

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philbo

High Priest of Cynicism
QED.

There's so much wrong with the above post it's hard to know where to start. Do you really consider the part Vin Diesel was playing in a movie to be "evidence"? Of anything???

And Baphomet - you do realize (s)he's hermaphrodite, not transgender? There's no suggestion of Baphomet transitioning from one sex to the other; even if there were, what the infinitesimal number of Baphomet worshippers might believe is completely and utterly irrelevant to what sensible people should be thinking. It boggles the mind that you even bring it up.
 

chevron1

Active Member
QED.

There's so much wrong with the above post it's hard to know where to start. Do you really consider the part Vin Diesel was playing in a movie to be "evidence"? Of anything???

vin diesel is no fool. he loves women the way he loves cars.

And Baphomet - you do realize (s)he's hermaphrodite, not transgender? There's no suggestion of Baphomet transitioning from one sex to the other; even if there were, what the infinitesimal number of Baphomet worshippers might believe is completely and utterly irrelevant to what sensible people should be thinking. It boggles the mind that you even bring it up.

hermaphrodite is no longer pc. the preferred term is "intersex". many people think that intersex and transgender should be the same because it is more inclusive.

more people worship baphomet than even know it. who knows, if they buy a package of cigarettes, maybe they are funding a baphomet corporation. just like in the tv series angel in which the wolfram and wolfram law firm was actually a satanic cult.
 

Paranoid Android

Active Member
vin diesel is no fool. he loves women the way he loves cars.



hermaphrodite is no longer pc. the preferred term is "intersex". many people think that intersex and transgender should be the same because it is more inclusive.

more people worship baphomet than even know it. who knows, if they buy a package of cigarettes, maybe they are funding a baphomet corporation. just like in the tv series angel in which the wolfram and wolfram law firm was actually a satanic cult.


Uhh...I suggest you SERIOUSLY seek mental health. Your train of thought seems to be slipping you, brother. Get some help. You'll make me worry too much about you. After all, you're family.
 

philbo

High Priest of Cynicism
vin diesel is no fool. he loves women the way he loves cars.
What the ****, dude? It's still completely irrelevant


hermaphrodite is no longer pc. the preferred term is "intersex". many people think that intersex and transgender should be the same because it is more inclusive.
..even if what you're saying is correct (and because it's you that's saying it, the odds are it's not), IT STILL ISN'T RELEVANT TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER

more people worship baphomet than even know it. who knows, if they buy a package of cigarettes, maybe they are funding a baphomet corporation. just like in the tv series angel in which the wolfram and wolfram law firm was actually a satanic cult.
Have you worked out the difference between fiction and real life yet? Seriously
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
hermaphrodite is no longer pc. the preferred term is "intersex". many people think that intersex and transgender should be the same because it is more inclusive.
Hardly anyone thinks intersex and transgender should be the same, because they are two totally different things.
more people worship baphomet than even know it. who knows, if they buy a package of cigarettes, maybe they are funding a baphomet corporation. just like in the tv series angel in which the wolfram and wolfram law firm was actually a satanic cult.
Seriously, you need help. You buy cigarettes chances are very high you're supporting R.J. Reynolds or Phillip Morris. There are a few smaller ones, but those two own all but a few brands on the market.
 

Paranoid Android

Active Member
vin diesel is no fool. he loves women the way he loves cars.



hermaphrodite is no longer pc. the preferred term is "intersex". many people think that intersex and transgender should be the same because it is more inclusive.

more people worship baphomet than even know it. who knows, if they buy a package of cigarettes, maybe they are funding a baphomet corporation. just like in the tv series angel in which the wolfram and wolfram law firm was actually a satanic cult.





I think this may help you, brother. www.activebeat.co...it can be found under "Is My Teen Showing Sings of Schizophrenia". I know it's for teens, but you might find symptoms close to what you suffer, my brother. Check it out.
 
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