Is Islam Responsible for the Charlie Hebdo Murders?

[Flankerl]

I am hereby warning all people trying to convert Jews that doing so might lead to some nasty consequences.


According to the logic of some people I am now free to murder people.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

You do have" freewill".
Please don't murder anyone but get murdered.

Wow... let's hear it for the Religion of Peace, everybody.

 

[Godobeyer]

Right. Some Muslim posters are upset that we keep bringing up the Islamist murder of cartoonists. But you see, the problem is that the issue will not die, unlike the cartoonists. Those of us who care passionately about freedom of thought will not let the matter die. Moreover, what motivated the OP was a Patheos blog post, as I indicated before, that was published yesterday.

For as long as extremist Muslims murder people for blasphemy, this will be an issue.

tighting the vision is the problem

We admit that we had problem with some scholars and Kings of Oil, and you need to admit that policy(envolved) of some Westerns in region had big facture , Palestine, Libya, Iraq,Syria , and before it helping Alqaeda in Afghanistan against Soviet Union . you need to admit these.

I disagree the problem is dieing , i had experience of life , We the Algerians suffered from terrorists since 1992 to 1999 (i don't remember how much years) , and NOW Algeria is clean and 99.99% save .and i bet 99.99 of Algerian are against ISIS .

 

[LuisDantas]

But this is just a trolling topic something also was discussed many times in different topics is being opened again and again and again, because the purpose is not innocent, purpose is just to serve for Satan.

I wish you took a serious matter seriously.

 

[Sees]

tighting the vision is the problem

We admit that we had problem with some scholars and Kings of Oil, and you need to admit that policy(envolved) of some Westerns in region had big facture , Palestine, Libya, Iraq,Syria , and before it helping Alqaeda in Afghanistan against Soviet Union . you need to admit these.

I disagree the problem is dieing , i had experience of life , We the Algerians suffered from terrorists since 1992 to 1999 (i don't remember how much years) , and NOW Algeria is clean and 99.99% save .and i bet 99.99 of Algerian are against ISIS .

Have you ever heard of AQIM?

 

[LuisDantas]

Blaming islam for charlie hebdo is very dangerous thing to do so. More fuel to the fire.

If you mean for Charlie Hebdo's _murder_, then I wish you would tell us why you think so.

 

[Godobeyer]

Have you ever heard of AQIM?

you start speaking arabic ?

if you mean , my reply is uselless , i consider that arrogant reply

 

[Sees]

you start speaking arabic ?

if you mean , my reply is uselless , i consider that arrogant reply

http://www.nctc.gov/site/groups/aqim.htmlhtml

al Qaeda in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) - (Salafist Group for Preaching and Fighting (see separate entry) | Terrorist Groups | TRAC

 

[NoX]

I wish you took a serious matter seriously.

I discuss serious matters with serious persons.

 

[LuisDantas]

I discuss serious matters with serious persons.

Not always, apparently.

 

[leibowde84]

my reply was for provoked thread of gsaseeker .

seems using the card of off-topic is selectable .

I am already talk and made thread about Charlie Hebdo

Algerian secret services warned France on 6 January | ReligiousForums.com

So, if you no longer wish to discuss the topic, why are you on this thread? Just to troll?

 

[jonathan180iq]

I do really enjoy most religious and political satire. Even when I was a Christian fundamentalist, I didn't violently object to the satirization of Christianity. If my Christian beliefs were ridiculed, then I would momentarily be upset but then I would quickly get over it. Furthermore, I did realize that I could simply chose to ignore somebody who attacked my Christian beliefs instead of violently attacking him for artistically expressing his difference of opinion with my beliefs. I think the overwhelming majority of Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus and other non-Islamic religious groups are reasonably tolerant of satirical attacks on their beliefs. I don't object to the satirization of non-Islamic beliefs; because nobody will likely get physically hurt or killed when satire is used to ridicule non-Islamic religious beliefs. However, I realize that some radical Muslims will violently object to satirical attacks on their radical Islamic beliefs. People will inevitably get physically hurt or killed when satire is used to make fun of radical Islamic beliefs. Therefore, I hope we can agree that it's not a good idea to provoke violent bullies into a fight over their beliefs. I think most of us can now agree that Islamic beliefs are a taboo subject and should be off limits to satirical attacks.

Is this seriously how your logic works?

 

[YmirGF]

I do really enjoy most religious and political satire. Even when I was a Christian fundamentalist, I didn't violently object to the satirization of Christianity. If my Christian beliefs were ridiculed, then I would momentarily be upset but then I would quickly get over it. Furthermore, I did realize that I could simply chose to ignore somebody who attacked my Christian beliefs instead of violently attacking him for artistically expressing his difference of opinion with my beliefs. I think the overwhelming majority of Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus and other non-Islamic religious groups are reasonably tolerant of satirical attacks on their beliefs. I don't object to the satirization of non-Islamic beliefs; because nobody will likely get physically hurt or killed when satire is used to ridicule non-Islamic religious beliefs. However, I realize that some radical Muslims will violently object to satirical attacks on their radical Islamic beliefs. People will inevitably get physically hurt or killed when satire is used to make fun of radical Islamic beliefs. Therefore, I hope we can agree that it's not a good idea to provoke violent bullies into a fight over their beliefs. I think most of us can now agree that Islamic beliefs are a taboo subject and should be off limits to satirical attacks.

Appeasing the class bully rarely works out well. It's best to confront him/her, head on, and explain to them the error of their ways and that continued behavior will not be tolerated. Clear enough?

 

[Godobeyer]

So, if you no longer wish to discuss the topic, why are you on this thread? Just to troll?

back to #124
maybe you missed my discuss with gsaseeker #124 in this page, in this thread , right ,or you just troll ?

 

[Godobeyer]

http://www.nctc.gov/site/groups/aqim.htmlhtml

al Qaeda in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) - (Salafist Group for Preaching and Fighting (see separate entry) | Terrorist Groups | TRAC

ah , sorry for misunderstand you .

i though you mean "Aqim" arabic word which mean useless .
that word so it's correspond that groups deeds

 

[lewisnotmiller]

To all bigots in this thread.
If someone breaks into your house and ties you up.He then rapes your daughter in front of your eyes and then he rapes your loving wife not only in front of you but also in front of your children.Thereafter he uses a chopper and chops up all your loved ones in front of you and while he goes about his heinous crime he smile and laugh at you..Every one of your loved one is killed and your property is looted but he allows you to live.After a few months you recognize this criminal and you report it to the law of the land but the law states there is no proof so there is nothing they could do.Every time you see this criminal he smiles and laugh at you.
My question
What is going to be your reaction?

I'm not a bigot, but I'll play along. I'd kill him. How does that relate to the OP?

 

[jonathan180iq]

To all bigots in this thread.
If someone breaks into your house and ties you up.He then rapes your daughter in front of your eyes and then he rapes your loving wife not only in front of you but also in front of your children.Thereafter he uses a chopper and chops up all your loved ones in front of you and while he goes about his heinous crime he smile and laugh at you..Every one of your loved one is killed and your property is looted but he allows you to live.After a few months you recognize this criminal and you report it to the law of the land but the law states there is no proof so there is nothing they could do.Every time you see this criminal he smiles and laugh at you.
My question
What is going to be your reaction?

I'm not a bigot, but I'll play along. I'd kill him. How does that relate to the OP?

Because drawing cartoons is exactly the same thing, duh!

 

[leibowde84]

back to #124
maybe you missed my discuss with gsaseeker #124 in this page, in this thread , right ,or you just troll ?

So, why did you say "I am already talk and made thread about Charlie Hebdo" when I asked why you changed the subject in your post about unrelated past terrorist activities perpetrated by members of the Christian faith?

 

[faroukfarouk]

I'm not a bigot, but I'll play along. I'd kill him. How does that relate to the OP?

lewisnotmiller you gave a logical answer to a reasonable question.Note if i am your judge in your murder trial then without any doubt i will find you not guilty.
Note i only used this word "bigot" to show how utterly intolerant individuals in this thread are towards my beliefs.No harm meant just a pure fact so please take it with a pinch of salt.
Now lets hear from the rest of the bigots so that i can address your question.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Because drawing cartoons is exactly the same thing, duh!

Nox
Did i not say there brains will go into a spin?