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Is Israel Racist?

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Palestinian-American Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) also spoke at the briefing about her family’s separate-and-unequal treatment by Israel. Tlaib decried how her mother, a US citizen, is not allowed by Israel to visit the West Bank via Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv because she also has Palestinian identification. Instead, her mother must transit to the West Bank via Jordan. Tlaib was blunt in her criticism of this Israeli policy, calling it “segregation”.

Tlaib also recounted her first visit to Palestine at age 12 to attend a family wedding in the West Bank. Growing up in Detroit with primarily Black teachers who instilled in her a knowledge of the “pain of oppression and segregation,” Tlaib was shocked by Israel’s separation of Palestinians at border control. Standing in a slow-moving line of Palestinians while others breezed through security, Tlaib realized that “this is what my teachers taught me about what happened to Blacks in America.”
Tlaib decries Israel’s ‘racist policies’ during Capitol Hill briefing examining abuses of US citizens


Not having been there, I don't (know). Though I have read stories of Palestinians being treated as second class citizens by Israel.
 
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Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Palestinian-American Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) also spoke at the briefing about her family’s separate-and-unequal treatment by Israel. Tlaib decried how her mother, a US citizen, is not allowed by Israel to visit the West Bank via Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv because she also has Palestinian identification. Instead, her mother must transit to the West Bank via Jordan. Tlaib was blunt in her criticism of this Israeli policy, calling it “segregation”.

Tlaib also recounted her first visit to Palestine at age 12 to attend a family wedding in the West Bank. Growing up in Detroit with primarily Black teachers who instilled in her a knowledge of the “pain of oppression and segregation,” Tlaib was shocked by Israel’s separation of Palestinians at border control. Standing in a slow-moving line of Palestinians while others breezed through security, Tlaib realized that “this is what my teachers taught me about what happened to Blacks in America.”
Tlaib decries Israel’s ‘racist policies’ during Capitol Hill briefing examining abuses of US citizens


Not having been there, I don't not. Though I have read stories of Palestinians being treated as second class citizens by Israel.

Are you asking if the government is racist or if individual Israelis are racist?

How are Palestinians a distinct race? They are Semites same as most Jews.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Israeli Arabs are being made second-class citizens. This form of apartheid violates the founding commitment to equality...

...Seventy years on, the Israeli government has just passed a law that replaces the principle of equality and universal values with nationalism and racism. This law states that only the Jewish people have a right to national self-determination in Israel.
This racist new law makes me ashamed to be Israeli | Daniel Barenboim
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Perhaps the question could be phrased slightly differently?

Does the Israeli Government treat Palestinians fairly and equitably? Answer: no.

But....

I think it's important to point out that almost every Israeli adult citizen is a soldier. And part of that military training instills an us vs. them mentality and dehumanizes Palestinians as the out-group/enemy. This could render behavior which appears to be racist. But I don't know if it is technically racist.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Israeli Arabs are being made second-class citizens. This form of apartheid violates the founding commitment to equality...

...Seventy years on, the Israeli government has just passed a law that replaces the principle of equality and universal values with nationalism and racism. This law states that only the Jewish people have a right to national self-determination in Israel.
This racist new law makes me ashamed to be Israeli | Daniel Barenboim

Fail to see how this is racist? What race is being discriminated against? Semites?

I think people these days confuse the words prejudice and racism.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Are you asking if the government is racist or if individual Israelis are racist?
The policies of the state of Israel.

How are Palestinians a distinct race?/They are Semites same as most Jews.

Racism against an ethnic identity.

Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another. It may also include prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone because they are of a different race or ethnicity, or the belief that members of different races or ethnicities should be treated differently.
Racism - Wikipedia
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
As someone corrected me earlier, Semitic is a language group. Palestinians and Jews (regardless of location) who speak Semitic languages are Semite.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Are you asking if the government is racist or if individual Israelis are racist?

How are Palestinians a distinct race? They are Semites same as most Jews.

And the Spanish are European/White race. Still used as a term of discrimination towards Hispanics.
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Palestinian-American Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) also spoke at the briefing about her family’s separate-and-unequal treatment by Israel. Tlaib decried how her mother, a US citizen, is not allowed by Israel to visit the West Bank via Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv because she also has Palestinian identification. Instead, her mother must transit to the West Bank via Jordan. Tlaib was blunt in her criticism of this Israeli policy, calling it “segregation”.

Tlaib also recounted her first visit to Palestine at age 12 to attend a family wedding in the West Bank. Growing up in Detroit with primarily Black teachers who instilled in her a knowledge of the “pain of oppression and segregation,” Tlaib was shocked by Israel’s separation of Palestinians at border control. Standing in a slow-moving line of Palestinians while others breezed through security, Tlaib realized that “this is what my teachers taught me about what happened to Blacks in America.”
Tlaib decries Israel’s ‘racist policies’ during Capitol Hill briefing examining abuses of US citizens


Not having been there, I don't not. Though I have read stories of Palestinians being treated as second class citizens by Israel.

You have got to be kidding right?! I'm Palestinian my people are sending rockets into Israel but I expect to go through passport control as fast anyone else,,, like no extra checks are needed!
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
The policies of the state of Israel.



Racism against an ethnic identity.

Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another. It may also include prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone because they are of a different race or ethnicity, or the belief that members of different races or ethnicities should be treated differently.
Racism - Wikipedia

Yeah, well definitions change. In Webster's 7th Collegiate Dictionary from 50 years ago, racism is defined this way:

A belief the race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

Seems the PC crowd has stretched the meaning so they can snare more people with the ugly epithet of racist. Now racism can be cultural, despite the plain inference of the word. I call BS.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Yeah, well definitions change. In Webster's 7th Collegiate Dictionary from 50 years ago, racism is defined this way:

A belief the race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

Seems the PC crowd has stretched the meaning so they can snare more people with the ugly epithet of racist. Now racism can be cultural, despite the plain inference of the word. I call BS.
Language goes through changes has times evolve. Do you understand that concept? It is rather simple.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Yeah, well definitions change. In Webster's 7th Collegiate Dictionary from 50 years ago, racism is defined this way:

A belief the race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

Seems the PC crowd has stretched the meaning so they can snare more people with the ugly epithet of racist. Now racism can be cultural, despite the plain inference of the word. I call BS.

Ok, you disagree with Rashida Tlaib use of the word, fair enough. Do you think she otherwise has a point?
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Palestinian-American Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) also spoke at the briefing about her family’s separate-and-unequal treatment by Israel. Tlaib decried how her mother, a US citizen, is not allowed by Israel to visit the West Bank via Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv because she also has Palestinian identification. Instead, her mother must transit to the West Bank via Jordan. Tlaib was blunt in her criticism of this Israeli policy, calling it “segregation”.

Tlaib also recounted her first visit to Palestine at age 12 to attend a family wedding in the West Bank. Growing up in Detroit with primarily Black teachers who instilled in her a knowledge of the “pain of oppression and segregation,” Tlaib was shocked by Israel’s separation of Palestinians at border control. Standing in a slow-moving line of Palestinians while others breezed through security, Tlaib realized that “this is what my teachers taught me about what happened to Blacks in America.”
Tlaib decries Israel’s ‘racist policies’ during Capitol Hill briefing examining abuses of US citizens


Not having been there, I don't not. Though I have read stories of Palestinians being treated as second class citizens by Israel.
I don't think there are racist countries, just racist people. Racism requires an opinion arrived at through a thought process. Countries cannot think.
 
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