Is it a sin for adults to play with dolls?

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Cool, I guess your use of the world 'relationship' is much, much broader and you are using it to define the state between any two things.

Here on this thread, we are using it to define the nature of things between two humans. I cannot take my teddy bear on a date, have a conversation with it, make-love to it, or have any kind of intimate emotional relationship with it whatsoever.

Maybe not, but I wasn't suggesting you did. Although I will say people have one sided emotional relationships all the time, both with humans and non-, with the animate and inanimate. Reciprocation or even awareness is not a requirement for people to feel a deep emotional attachment to sonething or someone.

 

[YmirGF]

Cool, I guess your use of the world 'relationship' is much, much broader and you are using it to define the state between any two things.

Here on this thread, we are using it to define the nature of things between two humans. I cannot take my teddy bear on a date, have a conversation with it, make-love to it, or have any kind of intimate emotional relationship with it whatsoever.

Personally, I don't like how this is supporting what is arguably negative behavior. Instead of encouraging people to navigate the rocky road of real relationships we are now supposed to be sensitive to people who choose to go the easy route and reinforce their social unease? Really? Heaven forbid the man sought counseling for his own inability to function within normal guidelines.

 

[Rival]

Reciprocation or even awareness is not a requirement for people to feel a deep emotional attachment to sonething or someone.

But this does not make a relationship. Apart from if you are a crazy stalker with erotomania.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Personally, I don't like how this is supporting what is arguably negative behavior. Instead of encouraging people to navigate the rocky road of real relationships we are now supposed to be sensitive to people who choose to go the easy route and reinforce their social unease? Really?

No ones asking you to encourage anything. I'm just saying live and let live. I'll even agree it's "arguably" unhealthy, but so what? How many definitely unhealthy things did you do today? I know I did a few. A few last night, too. I don't require anyone's encouragement, or even acknowledgement. But if anyone started trying to stop me from doing my freely chosen unhealthy activities, I'd be pretty mad.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

But this does not make a relationship. Apart from if you are a crazy stalker with erotomania.

Or, you know, an adoring fan. Ever known anyone to cry over the death of a celebrity they've never met? Would you deny the validity of their relationship?

 

[Rival]

Or, you know, an adoring fan.

Still not a relationship.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Still not a relationship.

It absolutely is. In case you missed my edit, ever known anyone who cried over the death of a celebrity they'd never met? You don't think that's a relationship?

 

[Rival]

It absolutely is. In case you missed my edit, ever known anyone who cried over the death of a celebrity they'd never met? You don't think that's a relationship?

No. It's called having great affection for someone.

Unreciprocated love =/= relationship.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

No. It's called having great affection for someone.

Unreciprocated love =/= relationship.

By your own personal definition of the word, perhaps. I'll stick with standard usage and the dictionary, though, thanks.

 

[Rival]

By your own personal definition of the word, perhaps. I'll stick with standard usage and the dictionary, though, thanks.

So every woman you've ever fancied you have been in a relationship with, even if she's said, No, to you? So if a rapist rapes someone, he can say, We were in a 'one-sided' relationship?

Man this is bullsh*t.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

So every woman you've ever fancied you have been in a relationship with, even if she's said, No, to you? So if a rapist rapes someone, he can say, We were in a 'one-sided' relationship?

Man this is bullsh*t.

Take it up with the OED if you don't like it. And yes, rape survivors and their attackers most definitely have a relationship.

 

[Rival]

Take ot up with the OED if you don't like it. And yes, rape survivors and their attackers most definitely have a relationship.

I think you need help.

Also there is a difference between a 'relationship with' and a 'relationship to'.

I may fancy someone, it just means...I fancy someone. Not a relationship with that person.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I think you need help.

Also there is a difference between a 'relationship with' and a 'relationship to'.

I may fancy someone, it just means...I fancy someone. Not a relationship with that person.

If you don't like the basic, dictionary meanings of English words, I don't know what to tell you. Try a different language, maybe?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Can be! It was wrong of me to judge him so quickly.

You’re not wrong just from a different perspective. I can see where you think that an inanimate object is psychologically unhealthy and in some circumstances you’re right. Some people can have a relationship with an inanimate object for a long time thinking the object has sentience.

This in my field is called anthromorphism.

It is when we give human characteristics to inanimate objects. I guess you can extend this to religion as well.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I think you need help.

Also there is a difference between a 'relationship with' and a 'relationship to'.

I may fancy someone, it just means...I fancy someone. Not a relationship with that person.

Hey Rival I fancy you!

 

[Rival]

Hey Rival I fancy you!

Pity I like someone else

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I take comfort in sleeping with a teddy bear and have done for a long time.

But I'm not in a relationship with it.

See post #51

I used to have a Teddy Bear named “Ted”

I know if I was dating and a female saw that I was sleeping with a teddy bear at 36 years old, I probably wouldn’t have a lot of women liking me.

I tend to think the regressive behavior of an adult having child like tendencies and/or comforts similar to being a child are more acceptable for females than males. I think if you need a comparative model look at the conservative Bible Belt.

Women are confined to homes to cook and clean, not to mention young girls are conditioned to play with dolls so it wouldn’t be too far fetched that women in their adult age are privy to dolls as being an accepted thing.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Pity I like someone else

(Runs to comfort blankie)

 

[Rival]

See post #51

I used to have a Teddy Bear named “Ted”

I know if I was dating and a female saw that I was sleeping with a teddy bear at 36 years old, I probably wouldn’t have a lot of women liking me.

I tend to think the regressive behavior of an adult having child like tendencies and/or comforts similar to being a child are more acceptable for females than males. I think if you need a comparative model look at the conservative Bible Belt.

Women are confined to homes to cook and clean, not to mention young girls are conditioned to play with dolls so it wouldn’t be too far fetched that women in their adult age are privy to dolls as being an accepted thing.

There's a world of difference between sleeping with a teddy and believing you are in a relationship with a life-sized doll, though.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

There's a world of difference between sleeping with a teddy and believing you are in a relationship with a life-sized doll, though.

True. But I guess @Armoured was saying is that how do you distinguish between sleeping with a teddy bear (as a means for comfort) than having a relationship? Unless you think a relationship requires sentience and consent.