"Worth" has nothing to do with it. Atheism asserts nothing that could be believed in. What beliefs, exactly, would 'belief in atheism' entail?
Why is this such a difficult concept?
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Is it "an assertion that Atheism is correct"?
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Why is this such a difficult concept?
Subduction Zone
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You don't seem to understand. You are the one with a belief that is equal to believing in "leprechaunism" We are the ones with a lack of belief in that. Do you have even the least ability to reason?
paarsurrey
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and that is one's opinion not a reality, please. Is it, please?
Regards
No. That's mathematics. That's epistemology. That's logic. It's not opinion.
Emptiness, a lack of belief, a blank canvas, is what you start off with. It's what exists prior to something added, asserted, or painted.
About how you feel about freedom of belief, most of all.
Subduction Zone
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Altfish
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You have no evidence but believe in a god; Atheism is not based on evidence BUT on a lack of evidence!
Its an assertion that I don't find reason to believe in your God (nor others).
Blastcat
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Blastcat
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oh my god that's going to confuse the boy
Blastcat
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So far. Yes.
Your belief is your belief. Your belief is not evidence. Without evidence of coffee how could anyone say macchiato exists? Without evidence of elephants how could anyone be sure elephants exist? Without evidence of pink unicorns how could anyone imagine pink unicorns exist? And without evidence of god how can anyone say god exists?... All they can confirm if they do not have evidence is that they believe.
Belief : acceptance that something exists or is true without proof.
Evidence : the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
Please show me one newborn with a belief in god. Please show me any child who has a belief in god unless they have previously been indoctrinated into that belief. Please show me one child indoctrinated into one of the abrahamic faiths who believes in Thor or Aries are the one gods.
Atheism as a word and a mind state means one, and only one thing : disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
I have provided this definition for you on several occasions and still you try to impose your will on the recognised definition. Why your fixation with trying to discredit atheism? Is is obvious you do not understand atheism.
I did not write the definitionof atheism
Complete (100%) lack of evidence over the 10000+ years of known god worship. Also the contradictory evidence such as My Go is a caring god... Childhood leukemia
My God is a designer god... the mosquito
My God is a listening god... He futility of prayer
Feel free to interpret that as you will, i certainly see no question as, i believe, many atheists would not see a question.
Great word, I had to look it up, definitely not part of my usual vocabulary.
Its a pretty good indicator given that in 10000+ years of god worship literally billions of attempts at providing evidence for god have failed. Making gods the most failed concept in human history.
But you feel different so pray that he does something about childhood leukemia or stops religion based wars, or feeds the starving children of the world... etc. After all, these things shouldn't be so hard for a bod who made a whole universe from nothing in a week. Shall we take bets on whether he'll take action or not?
Altfish
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As Stephen Fry said when asked on Irish TV what he would say to God if after he died he met him.
His response (and I paraphrase) was, "Bone cancer in children, what's that about?"
Oh, I don't know, an atheist dogma might be "I'll believe it to be true if you can prove it to be true.", you might call it the dogma of proof. A dogma is more of a principle that a belief, it doesn't necessarily encompass a belief in a thing and the dogma for any particular atheist might be different for different atheists because it can be a personal dogma and I think different atheists have different view on atheism. But then again, what do I know, I'm not an atheist.
An aside on bone cancer
Interestingly, Stephen Fry has recently had the same op for prostate cancer at about the same time as my husband. Both clear now but they both need a 6 monthly checkup for life because bone cancer is a very common progression from prostate cancer.