Is it "an assertion that Atheism is correct"?

[Altfish]

... and I find the reply would be the same as found at Job 2:4-5.
Satan challenges everybody that ' touch our bone and flesh ' (Loose physical health) and we would Not serve God.
Under very adverse conditions both Job and Jesus proved faithful to God and so can we.
Suffering is coming to an end as per Revelation 22:2. There will be healing for earth's nations.
Even ' enemy death ' will be No more according to 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8.

I'm pleased you think that and can , in your own mind, explain why little children have bone cancer and the likes.
I'm sorry, it does not wash it for me, it is feeble excuses for a non-existent god.

 

[Thaif]

That is hardly a dogma. It appears to be just good sense. Show me some reliable evidence for God and I will change my mind. But then the same applies to fairies. Show me some reliable evidence that fairies exist and I will change my mind.

dogma is just a word. I deliberately try to keep any language relating to religion, God or faith out of anything I post just so that you know, I'm not accused of trying to proselytize to the unbelievers. (That would be you and your mates).

Here's the thing, I post stuff sometimes without mentioning anything religious and the responses to my posts regularly bring up God as if I was arguing from that point of view. In this case, I was simply clarifying the meaning of a relatively non-religious word and hey presto, an atheist (that would be you) mentions God. Are you sure you are an atheist?

:-} (that's a wry smiley face)

 

[Subduction Zone]

dogma is just a word. I deliberately try to keep any language relating to religion, God or faith out of anything I post just so that you know, I'm not accused of trying to proselytize to the unbelievers. (That would be you and your mates).

Here's the thing, I post stuff sometimes without mentioning anything religious and the responses to my posts regularly bring up God as if I was arguing from that point of view. In this case, I was simply clarifying the meaning of a relatively non-religious word and hey presto, an atheist (that would be you) mentions God. Are you sure you are an atheist?

:-} (that's a wry smiley face)

It appears that you do not understand what atheism is. Why do you think it unusual that I mention god?

 

[Thaif]

It appears that you do not understand what atheism is. Why do you think it unusual that I mention god?

Probably because I was clarifying the use of a word in a non-religious sense but go ahead, have your own take on that. Oh and when you mention God in a singular context, it is correct to capitalise. You could use a god or the gods but when you use the term as you do in your sentence which clearly is a response to mine, caps are appropriate, but feel free to get some schooling on that or direct me to the appropriate language skills page so I can be corrected.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Probably because I was clarifying the use of a word in a non-religious sense but go ahead, have your own take on that. Oh and when you mention God in a singular context, it is correct to capitalise. You could use a god or the gods but when you use the term as you do in your sentence which clearly is a response to mine, caps are appropriate, but feel free to get some schooling on that or direct me to the appropriate language skills page so I can be corrected.

The same rules that apply to people do not apply to fictitious beings.

 

[ChristineM]

The word 'day' in Scripture has shades of meaning as it does today when we speak of grandfather's day.
We know grandfather's day was Not a literal 24-hour day, yet we still have 24-hour days.
The ' waiting ' is now close to hearing the ' final signal ' of 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 when the powers that be will be saying, " Peace and Security..." but that will just be the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.

Nope, it has interpretations, not shades of meaning. The date of grandfathers day varies from county to country and lasts for one day each year. It was established in the latter half of the 20th century. When were the scriptures written?

Bible believers have been saying that for 2000 years when Rome was offering peace and security to client nations.

Many in recent times have predicted the end and please give me all your worldly goods before hand so i can live a comfortable life after my projected date turns out to be just one like all those before it.

Reminiscent of Harold Camping and his 70+ million dollar business selling the end of the world.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

dogma is just a word. I deliberately try to keep any language relating to religion, God or faith out of anything I post just so that you know, I'm not accused of trying to proselytize to the unbelievers. (That would be you and your mates).

Proselytize all you want. I don't know the numbers, but I would hazard a guess that a fair number of American atheists grew up in the church. It isn't anything we haven't heard before, and I personally don't take offense.

 

[wandering peacefully]

"Reminiscent of Harold Camping and his 70+ million dollar business selling the end of the world."

I remember traveling out west with my son. Once we passed mid Ohio, 80 percent of the radio channels were religious. We got hours of laughs listening to Harold Camping. My son to this day will still do a great imitation. I don't know if the stations have become more diversified since then, but it was an eye-opener as to why the "bible-belt" was alive and well. So much brainwashing as a daily part of life I guess.

And traveling through the Midwest it was easy to see why religion is such a big part of their lives. Not much else going on out there. To each his own but that Camping is/was quite the character!

 

[Thaif]

The same rules that apply to people do not apply to fictitious beings.

Fine then, we'll user spiderman, batman, luke skywalker, and the like because that is the correct way to use the written language.

 

[Thaif]

Proselytize all you want. I don't know the numbers, but I would hazard a guess that a fair number of American atheists grew up in the church. It isn't anything we haven't heard before, and I personally don't take offense.

Not meaning to cause offence. So good, I guess.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Fine then, we'll user spiderman, batman, luke skywalker, and the like because that is the correct way to use the written language.

Didn't say always. Some theists have an all or nothing problem. Are you a creationist as well?

Perhaps this will help. We don't say Puppy, Cat, Horse or Wombat either.

 

[Thaif]

Perhaps this will help. We don't say Puppy, Cat, Horse or Wombat either.

Actually you might if Puppy, Cat was the tile or name of the creature. I'm not sure where this is even going anymore.
1) Yes I am a creationist although that has nothing to do with this conversation. If you knew anything about the various Christian religions, you would take the time to look at my professed religion "Reformed Christian" and would realise that immediately. Perhaps you are one of those atheists who bundle every Christian in the same group?
2) When the person you are blogging with clearly uses God in a singular sense, the only reason you would have to drop the caps is to provide a low-level insult. I could use the phrase the cat pooped on my dinner and that is clearly referring to an animal of a type. If I drop the word "the" and said Cat Pooped on my dinner, clearly that is a name for an animal. Your use "Why do you think it unusual that I mention god?" clearly refers to a singular being and falls into what I might call the "childish insult" category. Judging by your posts, you are clearly not a child.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Actually you might if Puppy, Cat was the tile or name of the creature. I'm not sure where this is even going anymore.
1) Yes I am a creationist although that has nothing to do with this conversation. If you knew anything about the various Christian religions, you would take the time to look at my professed religion "Reformed Christian" and would realise that immediately. Perhaps you are one of those atheists who bundle every Christian in the same group?
2) When the person you are blogging with clearly uses God in a singular sense, the only reason you would have to drop the caps is to provide a low-level insult. I could use the phrase the cat pooped on my dinner and that is clearly referring to an animal of a type. If I drop the word "the" and said Cat Pooped on my dinner, clearly that is a name for an animal. Your use "Why do you think it unusual that I mention god?" clearly refers to a singular being and falls into what I might call the "childish insult" category. Judging by your posts, you are clearly not a child.

Actually your being a creationist does have something to do with the conversation. Creationists tend to make an "all or nothing" error when it comes to the Bible. If one reasons rationally then one since creationism is demonstrably wrong they should be atheists to be consistent.

And yes, it may have been a bit of a "micro-aggression" to use a lower case for "god" but then so was the question that you used at the start. You reap what you sow buddy, complaining is a bit hypocritical.

 

[LuisDantas]

Please give one's assertion and the evidences here.
Regards

The assertion is that atheists do not believe in the existence of any deities.

The evidence is that they say that it is so, and there is no good reason to assume that they are lying.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I'm not a fan of Santa, or the Easter bunny, or Amun-Re. Kicking Santa out of school is removing what many students consider heretical and an attack on their religion.
Where did you study history? The country was founded as a theocracy.
The Pilgrims weren't seeking religious freedom -- they had that in the Netherlands. They came here to set up a fundamentalist, Puritan theocracy; a "city on a hill," where any other religion was illegal, worship and tithing was mandatory, the Bible was the law, and any hint of dissent had grave consequences.
They were the 17th century Taliban.
Most of the 13 colonies had official religions and obligatory taxes to support the church. Many required attendance at Sunday services.
The United States of America were an enlightenment inspired experiment in secular Humanism.

Please note I said a Theocracy as was Israel's.
The modern-day definition of Theocracy is rule by clergy or rule by clergy class. Daniel 2:44's Theocracy is neither. God's kingdom governmental Theocracy is by God Rule through Jesus for a thousand years.
Then, at the end of the 1,000 years Jesus hands back God Kingdom to his God according to 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

People have been claiming that the Second Coming is just around the corner for 1500 years. It's kind of hard to take them seriously.

I find wrong guesses or ideas does Not make the Bible as wrong, just makes the guesses as wrong.
Daniel gives us the ' right ' time frame at Daniel 12:4; Daniel 12:9.
That ' right time ' is the setting for Revelation 1:10 which is for our time frame.
Think about this: the international proclaiming about God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44 was never proclaimed on such a vast global scale as it has been accomplished in our day as instructed at Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8.
Also, never before has there been the ' final signal ', so to speak, of 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 when ' they ' (powers that be ) will be saying, " Peace and Security..." as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
So, we do Not need to take those people of 1,500 years plus as seriously, but rather take the Bible seriously.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

I find wrong guesses or ideas does Not make the Bible as wrong, just makes the guesses as wrong.

What makes your guess any better?

Daniel gives us the ' right ' time frame at Daniel 12:4; Daniel 12:9.
That ' right time ' is the setting for Revelation 1:10 which is for our time frame.
Think about this: the international proclaiming about God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44 was never proclaimed on such a vast global scale as it has been accomplished in our day as instructed at Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8.
Also, never before has there been the ' final signal ', so to speak, of 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 when ' they ' (powers that be ) will be saying, " Peace and Security..." as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
So, we do Not need to take those people of 1,500 years plus as seriously, but rather take the Bible seriously.

People have been making the same arguments for 1,500 years citing scripture in the same way you are doing. It's kind of hard to take any of it seriously at this point.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Proselytize all you want. I don't know the numbers, but I would hazard a guess that a fair number of American atheists grew up in the church. It isn't anything we haven't heard before, and I personally don't take offense.

Growing up in the ' church ' could also prove true in Europe where their churches are emptying out.
Religious ' waters ' (people) drying up is Not proof the Bible is wrong, but that church teachings are often wrong.
So, those spiritually dried-up people are proof that false religious teachings are wrong, and Not Scripture.
They have mostly been taught church customs or church traditions instead of Scripture.
At Matthew 15:9 Jesus forewarned us that such worship would be in vain.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

What makes your guess any better?
People have been making the same arguments for 1,500 years citing scripture in the same way you are doing. It's kind of hard to take any of it seriously at this point.

I don't find people have been making the same arguments for 1,500 years ' in the same way '.
Sure they could have used Scripture, after all in Scripture is where we find Jesus' teachings.
As Proverbs 4:18 says that the path is as a shining light which shines lighter and brighter with the passing of time.
In a different way, never, never before in history has mankind seen the ' final phase ' of Matthew 24:14 as we see today.
In a different way, never, never before in history has mankind come close to the ' final signal ' of 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3.
So, adding everything together we have a ' final picture ' that we are nearing that soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth of Matthew 25:31-33,37,40.