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Is it ethical to hang people?

Is it okay to hang certain criminals (in your opinion)?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • No

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • Other---please explain

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • Total voters
    9

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I have only seen one hanging. It was Sadaam Hussein in 2006, but I wasn't there in person. I couldn't afford the plane ticket to Iraq to be there to support him.

Still, I was hoping he would look really peaceful. He seemed quite calm and peaceful as they were putting the noose around his neck, but seeing his eyes bulge and the shocking look on his face when he dropped and hung, kinda bothered me.

People tell me that I'm really good at reading people, and in this particular case, my male intuition told me he may have been experiencing some discomfort in his neck and difficulty breathing.

I don't think America should have let that slide. I think people should be given some medicine that is designed to cause euphoric spiritual experiences, so that they hopefully make their peace with God and have a change of heart, then they be given a barbiturate to make them quickly doze off. Then they be given a lethal amount of whatever.

There are chemicals that I've seen can make a total jerk quite kind and compassionate. There are other chemicals that make people more spiritual. So surely, we can give people medication that will make them compassionate, spiritual, repentant, and have a change of heart, so that they have a better chance of getting to Heaven (If such a place exists).

To me, hanging looks like it's hard on the neck. It isn't like the people hanging are usually interviewed to find out how much pain they are in on a scale of 1-10. Sometimes it could be excruciating for all we know.

If things were to reach a point where no chemicals were available, I would prefer getting bludgeoned in the head repeatedly with a crowbar than hanging. Strong blows to the head don't hurt much because the lights sort of go out.

Let those evil people have pleasant final moments of life. Evil people are already tortured enough!
 
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Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
To me, hanging looks like it's too hard on the neck. It isn't like the people hanging are usually interviewed to find out how much pain they are in on a scale of 1-10. Sometimes it could be excruciating for all we know.

It’s designed and calculated so the neck breaks instantly. It’s not like what you see in western movies and tv shows.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
It’s designed and calculated so the neck breaks instantly. It’s not like what you see in western movies and tv shows.
How do we know a broken neck doesn't hurt? Saddam Hussein wasn't in a western movie or tv show. He looked like he was conscious for a while.
 
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Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
How do we know a broken neck doesn't hurt? Saadam Hussein wasn't in a western movie or tv show. He looked like he was conscious for a while.

Because death is instantaneous. People have claimed that the heads of decapitated people still blink or movie their eyes. That’s been debunked as physiologically impossible except for residual reflexes that have nothing to do with consciousness.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
I have only seen one hanging. It was Sadaam Hussein in 2006, but I wasn't there in person. I couldn't afford the plane ticket to Iraq to be there to support him.

Still, I was hoping he would look really peaceful. He seemed quite calm and peaceful as they were putting the noose around his neck, but seeing his eyes bulge and the shocking look on his face when he dropped and hung, kinda bothered me.

People tell me that I'm really good at reading people, and in this particular case, my male intuition told me he may have been experiencing some discomfort in his neck and difficulty breathing.

I don't think America should have let that slide. I think people should be given some medicine that is designed to cause euphoric spiritual experiences, so that they hopefully make their peace with God and have a change of heart, then they be given a barbiturate to make them quickly dose off. Then they be given a lethal amount of whatever.

There are chemicals that I've seen can make a total jerk quite kind and compassionate. There are other chemicals that make people more spiritual. So surely, we can give people medication that will make them compassionate, spiritual, repentant, and have a change of heart, so that they have a better chance of getting to Heaven (If such a place exists).

To me, hanging looks like it's hard on the neck. It isn't like the people hanging are usually interviewed to find out how much pain they are in on a scale of 1-10. Sometimes it could be excruciating for all we know.

If things were to reach a point where no chemicals were available, I would prefer getting bludgeoned in the head repeatedly with a crowbar than hanging. Strong blows to the head don't hurt much because the lights sort of go out.

Let those evil people have pleasant final moments of life. Evil people are already tortured enough!

I don't believe in absolute morality. I only know that I perceive a natural repulsion for things like death penalties, executions and such. Where I come from, it is considered an emotional and barbaric form of justice.

Ciao

- viole
 
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
Why would you want to support Saddam Hussein?
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Because he's cute :p and I love my enemies. He actually had a hard difficult life.

I don't agree with his killing of Shiites and Kurds, or his invasion of Iran and Kuwait, or launching scud missles at Israel.

Iran is my favorite Muslim country and I'm glad Saddam was overthrown so that Shiites could have power in Iraq.

But I want what is best for Dictator Hussein. He is my buddy. He was a lot like the prophet Muhammad in many ways.

He believed he was serving Allah by killing infidels. He was Sunni, and many Sunnis consider Shiites to be pagan, Idolatrous, Satanic unbelievers.

Shiites are like me in the sense that they venerate, honor, and invoke the dead, and are nicer about women's rights and letting Jews have synagogues.

Saddam Hussein was simply following the message of the Qur'an which repeatedly calls for the death of those who oppose Allah and his messenger.

So, I admire Saddam Hussein for bravely remaining faithful to following the example of Muhammad and the first Muslims. But I wish he would have been Shiite instead. Shiites are the good guys. ;)
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
I have only seen one hanging. It was Sadaam Hussein in 2006, but I wasn't there in person. I couldn't afford the plane ticket to Iraq to be there to support him.

Still, I was hoping he would look really peaceful. He seemed quite calm and peaceful as they were putting the noose around his neck, but seeing his eyes bulge and the shocking look on his face when he dropped and hung, kinda bothered me.

People tell me that I'm really good at reading people, and in this particular case, my male intuition told me he may have been experiencing some discomfort in his neck and difficulty breathing.

I don't think America should have let that slide. I think people should be given some medicine that is designed to cause euphoric spiritual experiences, so that they hopefully make their peace with God and have a change of heart, then they be given a barbiturate to make them quickly dose off. Then they be given a lethal amount of whatever.

There are chemicals that I've seen can make a total jerk quite kind and compassionate. There are other chemicals that make people more spiritual. So surely, we can give people medication that will make them compassionate, spiritual, repentant, and have a change of heart, so that they have a better chance of getting to Heaven (If such a place exists).

To me, hanging looks like it's hard on the neck. It isn't like the people hanging are usually interviewed to find out how much pain they are in on a scale of 1-10. Sometimes it could be excruciating for all we know.

If things were to reach a point where no chemicals were available, I would prefer getting bludgeoned in the head repeatedly with a crowbar than hanging. Strong blows to the head don't hurt much because the lights sort of go out.

Let those evil people have pleasant final moments of life. Evil people are already tortured enough!
In a nutshell, man has no "right" to kill another man. If man has that right, tell me where it came from and I'll show you the Demiurge.

Life isn't given by man and man has no right to extinguish it.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I don't agree with his killing of Shiites and Kurds, or his invasion of Iran and Kuwait, or launching scud missles at Israel.
"Don't agree"?:eek:

With a great deal of aid and support from the USA, Hussein ordered thousands of people shot, gassed whole villages, (do you have any idea what an ugly death that is?) and launched a disastrous invasion of Iran. About a million people died in the Iranian invasion alone. He was one of, if not the most, violent tyrants in my adult life. If anyone earned a brutal public execution it was Hussein.

Of course, possibly, in fairness, Bush should have been next to him. GW Bush helped all that happen when he could have prevented it.

So, while I generally oppose capital punishment I didn't have a problem with executing Hussein. Not just because his crimes were so enormous. Mainly because he had the kind of power making it almost inevitable that he go on causing death and destruction from prison. Plenty of his supporters (who eventually became ISIS) would have done anything to get him free. Or at least get revenge. Killing him ended any chance of the old regime making a come back.

Tom
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
"Don't agree"?:eek:

With a great deal of aid and support from the USA, Hussein ordered thousands of people shot, gassed whole villages, (do you have any idea what an ugly death that is?) and launched a disastrous invasion of Iran. About a million people died in the Iranian invasion alone. He was one of, if not the most, violent tyrants in my adult life. If anyone earned a brutal public execution it was Hussein.

Of course, possibly, in fairness, Bush should have been next to him. GW Bush helped all that happen when he could have prevented it.

So, while I generally oppose capital punishment I didn't have a problem with executing Hussein. Not just because his crimes were so enormous. Mainly because he had the kind of power making it almost inevitable that he go on causing death and destruction from prison. Plenty of his supporters (who eventually became ISIS) would have done anything to get him free. Or at least get revenge. Killing him ended any chance of the old regime making a come back.

Tom
Yes, but we should have given him comfortable medicine that would give him a change of heart though and let him die making peace with Allah! I didn't like the look on his face when his neck broke. I think it hurt. I have had broken bones. I'm sure a broken neck is no picnic. Give him some ketamine and some barbiturates to put him to sleep. then lethal whatever.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I have only seen one hanging. It was Sadaam Hussein in 2006, but I wasn't there in person. I couldn't afford the plane ticket to Iraq to be there to support him.

Still, I was hoping he would look really peaceful. He seemed quite calm and peaceful as they were putting the noose around his neck, but seeing his eyes bulge and the shocking look on his face when he dropped and hung, kinda bothered me.

People tell me that I'm really good at reading people, and in this particular case, my male intuition told me he may have been experiencing some discomfort in his neck and difficulty breathing.

I don't think America should have let that slide. I think people should be given some medicine that is designed to cause euphoric spiritual experiences, so that they hopefully make their peace with God and have a change of heart, then they be given a barbiturate to make them quickly dose off. Then they be given a lethal amount of whatever.

There are chemicals that I've seen can make a total jerk quite kind and compassionate. There are other chemicals that make people more spiritual. So surely, we can give people medication that will make them compassionate, spiritual, repentant, and have a change of heart, so that they have a better chance of getting to Heaven (If such a place exists).

To me, hanging looks like it's hard on the neck. It isn't like the people hanging are usually interviewed to find out how much pain they are in on a scale of 1-10. Sometimes it could be excruciating for all we know.

If things were to reach a point where no chemicals were available, I would prefer getting bludgeoned in the head repeatedly with a crowbar than hanging. Strong blows to the head don't hurt much because the lights sort of go out.

Let those evil people have pleasant final moments of life. Evil people are already tortured enough!
A fatal overdose of LSD!!! That's actually the best idea I have heard I like!
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I have only seen one hanging. It was Sadaam Hussein in 2006, but I wasn't there in person. I couldn't afford the plane ticket to Iraq to be there to support him.

Still, I was hoping he would look really peaceful. He seemed quite calm and peaceful as they were putting the noose around his neck, but seeing his eyes bulge and the shocking look on his face when he dropped and hung, kinda bothered me.

People tell me that I'm really good at reading people, and in this particular case, my male intuition told me he may have been experiencing some discomfort in his neck and difficulty breathing.

I don't think America should have let that slide. I think people should be given some medicine that is designed to cause euphoric spiritual experiences, so that they hopefully make their peace with God and have a change of heart, then they be given a barbiturate to make them quickly dose off. Then they be given a lethal amount of whatever.

There are chemicals that I've seen can make a total jerk quite kind and compassionate. There are other chemicals that make people more spiritual. So surely, we can give people medication that will make them compassionate, spiritual, repentant, and have a change of heart, so that they have a better chance of getting to Heaven (If such a place exists).

To me, hanging looks like it's hard on the neck. It isn't like the people hanging are usually interviewed to find out how much pain they are in on a scale of 1-10. Sometimes it could be excruciating for all we know.

If things were to reach a point where no chemicals were available, I would prefer getting bludgeoned in the head repeatedly with a crowbar than hanging. Strong blows to the head don't hurt much because the lights sort of go out.

Let those evil people have pleasant final moments of life. Evil people are already tortured enough!
If I heard right, Saddam wanted a firing squad. Not granting a Last Wish sounds pretty unethical .
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Yes, but we should have given him comfortable medicine that would give him a change of heart though and let him die making peace with Allah! I didn't like the look on his face when his neck broke. I think it hurt. I have had broken bones. I'm sure a broken neck is no picnic. Give him some ketamine and some barbiturates to put him to sleep. then lethal whatever.
Nah.
It was an execution that required publicity and finality.
Firing squad would have been ok with me. But it needed to be unambiguous and let his supporters know that they could get it too.
Tom
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
In my state hanging was at one point the only available method of execution. One man sentenced to death got out of his punishment by purposefully overeating and then claiming that hanging in his case was unconstitutional due to the risk of decapitation. A rather liberal judge agreed (I would have ruled that was only a cosmetic concern. Decapitation would have made the death instantaneous and painless

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11225694/...er-once-found-too-fat-hang-dies/#.W15kXaNlA1I
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Nah.
It was an execution that required publicity and finality.
Firing squad would have been ok with me. But it needed to be unambiguous and let his supporters know that they could get it too.
Tom
My current opposition to the death penalty arises from states where they appear to be too willing to sentence people to death. Texas being a prime example. Execution of major killers such as Hussein can help to end resistance of supporters of the old corrupt regime.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
Hanging was good enough for Saddam.
That being said it is funny how the U.S. is making a huge deal out of some alleged Russian facebook ads and anti and pro Hillary and Trump memes somehow undermining "democracy" when they themselves helped put Saddam in power. When that particular CIA enabled Frankenstein became unmanageable then they created a war on false pretenses and ultimately hung him. There are similarities between this and the CIA supported coup in Vietnam against Diem. Of course there might be claims of "whataboutism" but in these cases it seems nothing more than complaining that some one pointed out the boils on the kings a**.
 
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