Will methodological naturalism be in Heaven?
Since I don't believe in heaven I have to recuse myself from answering this question
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Will methodological naturalism be in Heaven?
According to my Religion, there will be Natural Theology in Heaven, not Science.Since I don't believe in heaven I have to recuse myself from answering this question![]()
God's name is Reason.My religion is reason only.
God's name is Reason.
How is that science fault? Science doesn't care about religions, it's about providing the most accurate explanation based on the evidence we have. If a religious claim doesn't agree with the evidence, then the problem is the religion and not the science.Science appears to be an anti-religious organization (for example, Darwin's Theory of Evolution has greatly reduced the number of members of the Church).
I do not mix Science and Religion together. I mix Natural Theology and Religion. Science appears to be an anti-religious organization (for example, Darwin's Theory of Evolution has greatly reduced the number of members of the Church). Natural Theology studies nature as well, but welcomes and does not prohibit references to Religion and God; before the beginning of any study or research activity, prayer takes place to drive out demons and UFOs from devices, computers, and brains. And what demons influence the measuring equipment is evidenced by the fact that cosmic rays flew out directly from the Earth, not the cosmos:
"Antarctica's Spooky Cosmic Rays Might Shatter Physics As We Know It,"
Bizarre Particles Keep Flying out of Antarctica's Ice, and They Might Shatter Modern Physics
Derek B. Fox, et.al., The ANITA Anomalous Events as Signatures of a Beyond Standard Model Particle, and Supporting Observations from IceCube, arXiv:1809.09615 [astro-ph.HE]
The ANITA Anomalous Events as Signatures of a Beyond Standard...
So, to make the "peace deal" between Reason and Faith, one needs back the Natural Theology with its school prayers. How is prayer indifferent to God, when Jesus Christ often prayed and through His prayers, the Lazarus has been resurrected and many miracles have been made and are documented for example in the Holy Bible? Are you questioning the Bible? Even the satan did not do so when he has tempted Jesus Christ in the wilderness: satan did not tell the Christ that the one who appeared to Him is an alien, and that "there is no God." Be the way, the alleged presence of alien life at stars or even galaxies contradicts the dogma of the conciliarity and uniqueness of the Church.
The true purpose of any research is to point God's folk to the spiritual realm:
"I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?" John 3:12 NIV.
The Dark Matter is invisible in the sense that it is not found in underground detectors, and it is not produced at CERN. Another fact is that the human soul is invisible as well. Simple logic tells then, that the soul is a living invisible matter, whereas the Dark Matter around the galaxies is inanimate invisible matter. Mathematical proof: Gravity Law Without Universalism is Solving Many Tasks, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2007.0112
Look at your legs: the left leg has exactly the same length as the right one. It is a fact for the overwhelming majority of us. With a coordinating soul inside the body, is it any wonder that both legs of a person grow to the same length?
This is the first time, I have actually heard the term Natural theology, so obviously googled a bit to get some information, but couldn't really find a lot.Natural Theology studies nature as well, but welcomes and does not prohibit references to Religion and God;
Science isn't anti-religion, it's pro-fact. Scientists think not a wit about how their discoveries will affect religion. If a fact disagrees with religious doctrine that's just the way it is. Don't blame science if people no longer believe the Sun circles the Earth.I do not mix Science and Religion together. I mix Natural Theology and Religion. Science appears to be an anti-religious organization (for example, Darwin's Theory of Evolution has greatly reduced the number of members of the Church). Natural Theology studies nature as well, but welcomes and does not prohibit references to Religion and God; before the beginning of any study or research activity, prayer takes place to drive out demons and UFOs from devices, computers, and brains. And what demons influence the measuring equipment is evidenced by the fact that cosmic rays flew out directly from the Earth, not the cosmos:
A new and unexpected phenomenon is discovered and you think this discredits science? This is the sort of thing scientists live for. This is how science advances."Antarctica's Spooky Cosmic Rays Might Shatter Physics As We Know It,"
Bizarre Particles Keep Flying out of Antarctica's Ice, and They Might Shatter Modern Physics
Derek B. Fox, et.al., The ANITA Anomalous Events as Signatures of a Beyond Standard Model Particle, and Supporting Observations from IceCube, arXiv:1809.09615 [astro-ph.HE]
The ANITA Anomalous Events as Signatures of a Beyond Standard...
School prayer? What does school prayer have to do with "Natural Theology?"So, to make the "peace deal" between Reason and Faith, one needs back the Natural Theology with its school prayers. How is prayer indifferent to God, when Jesus Christ often prayed and through His prayers, the Lazarus has been resurrected and many miracles have been made and are documented for example in the Holy Bible?
Spouting Christian folklore again? Support it or it'll be ignored.Are you questioning the Bible? Even the satan did not do so when he has tempted Jesus Christ in the wilderness: satan did not tell the Christ that the one who appeared to Him is an alien, and that "there is no God." Be the way, the alleged presence of alien life at stars or even galaxies contradicts the dogma of the conciliarity and uniqueness of the Church.
What research are you talking about? The church doesn't do research. Traditionally the church has opposed research.The true purpose of any research is to point God's folk to the spiritual realm:
"I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?" John 3:12 NIV.
But invisible dark matter, like invisible air, is detectable. No-one's ever detected a soul. If a soul were detectable there would be general agreement about its existence, as there is for air.The Dark Matter is invisible in the sense that it is not found in underground detectors, and it is not produced at CERN. Another fact is that the human soul is invisible as well. Simple logic tells then, that the soul is a living invisible matter, whereas the Dark Matter around the galaxies is inanimate invisible matter. Mathematical proof: Gravity Law Without Universalism is Solving Many Tasks, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2007.0112
No, the legs are the same length because natural selection selected for functionality.Look at your legs: the left leg has exactly the same length as the right one. It is a fact for the overwhelming majority of us. With a coordinating soul inside the body, is it any wonder that both legs of a person grow to the same length?
Isn't that an example of the truth setting you free?Darwin's Theory of Evolution has greatly reduced the number of members of the Church.
The difference seems to me that science studies reality, the world external to the self, and must answer to a standard as objective as we can make it. Religion sets up hypotheses about beliefs that are internal and about as subjective as you can get ─ as witness the sheer number of the world's religions and sects.So, to make the "peace deal" between Reason and Faith, one needs back the Natural Theology with its school prayers.
Natural Theology is just another name for SUPERSTITION.I do not mix Science and Religion together. I mix Natural Theology and Religion.
Science appears to be an anti-religious organization (for example, Darwin's Theory of Evolution has greatly reduced the number of members of the Church).
Not seen much reason in God, his son, prophets, messengers, manifestations, messiahs, mahdis other than lame people need crutches.God's name is Reason.
Yeah, trying to mix science with Abrahamic religions is detrimental to them. In following Abrahamic religions, reason should be abandoned.I suppose that if you have an unreasonable religion then mixing reason with it would be detrimental.
Blu, Science does not need to ditch objective standards to co-exist with religion. My belief (Advaita - non-duality) is 100% in confirmation with science. But God, avataras, sons, prophets, messengers, manifestations, messiahs, mahdis need to be abandoned. These are imagined.What do you say science would gain by ditching its ideal of an objective standard?
I suspect we both know what religion would stand to lose by adopting such a standard.
Not the scripture itself, but the interpretation of it given by my Church. "The Bible does not interpret itself" - is the dogma of my Religion.Ok, so you put this thread in the "science and religion" forum. If *your* God's name is "reason", does your scripture hold up to logical, critical analysis? (Most scripture does not.)
The Church comes first because I care more for my soul than for the comfort of my body. I am angry at anything, which without sufficient reason harms my Church wellbeing.How is that science fault? Science doesn't care about religions, it's about providing the most accurate explanation based on the evidence we have. If a religious claim doesn't agree with the evidence, then the problem is the religion and not the science.
I mean, it's not the scientific methods fault that the people who wrote these religious texts had no clue what they were talking about. Sorry but that is simply to deny knowledge, just for doing it, can't see how that is beneficial for anyone?
Sorry for any misunderstanding.Not seen much reason in God, his son, prophets, messengers, manifestations, messiahs, mahdis other than lame people need crutches.Yeah, trying to mix science with Abrahamic religions is detrimental to them. In following Abrahamic religions, reason should be abandoned.
Blu, Science does not need to ditch objective standards to co-exist with religion. My belief (Advaita - non-duality) is 100% in confirmation with science. But God, avataras, sons, prophets, messengers, manifestations, messiahs, mahdis need to be abandoned. These are imagined.
I have invented the term "Natural Theology" by improving the term "Natural Philosophy". Look: there is "Science and Religion", not the "Science, Philosophy, and Religion." The true philosophy should be part of Religious activity. Natural Theology has the CERN, has all the research facilities, but it differs from Science in the love for God. Natural Theology allows equations to have the function of freedom X, which explains all the miracles: Gravity Law Without Universalism is Solving Many Tasks, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2007.0112This is the first time, I have actually heard the term Natural theology, so obviously googled a bit to get some information, but couldn't really find a lot.
So just out of curiosity, how do one approach a given topic, lets say evolution for instance, since you brought that up as an example?
Is it a way to seek answers, which can be verified, at least to some degree, since you allow God as an explanation, or what exactly is natural theology suppose to achieve?
Does it differ from intelligent design? or is it just another name for it?
You don't have to go into great details, as this post is not meant to have a go at it or anything like that, its simply out of curiosity as I haven't heard of it before?
Hope you can cast some light on it... cheers.
I have invented the term "Natural Theology" by improving the term "Natural Philosophy". Look: there is "Science and Religion", not the "Science, Philosophy, and Religion." The true philosophy should be part of Religious activity. Natural Theology has the CERN, has all the research facilities, but it differs from Science in the love for God. Natural Theology allows equations to have the function of freedom X, which explains all the miracles: Gravity Law Without Universalism is Solving Many Tasks, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2007.0112
I do not mix Science and Religion together. I mix Natural Theology and Religion. Science appears to be an anti-religious organization (for example, Darwin's Theory of Evolution has greatly reduced the number of members of the Church)
Satan is a fictional character in the Bible. Why would a character in a story question the reality of the story?So, to make the "peace deal" between Reason and Faith, one needs back the Natural Theology with its school prayers. How is prayer indifferent to God, when Jesus Christ often prayed and through His prayers, the Lazarus has been resurrected and many miracles have been made and are documented for example in the Holy Bible? Are you questioning the Bible? Even the satan did not do so when he has tempted Jesus Christ in the wilderness: satan did not tell the Christ that the one who appeared to