Is it ok to mock beliefs?

[Kathryn]

Well, some would say calling religion out on it's inconsistencies and absurdities is mockery. So, does not the same apply to everyday discourse?

Most people don't have a really hard time determining the difference between polite and impolite discourse.

At least, I don't. I guess some people are hypersensitive or just boorish though. I can't help that.

 

[Tristesse]

Most people don't have a really hard time determining the difference between polite and impolite discourse.

At least, I don't. I guess some people are hypersensitive or just boorish though. I can't help that.

Who says that calling religions out is impolite?

 

[MysticSang'ha]

I have not one time, on any of these threads, misrepresented what Dawkins said. I've sourced back to his own words.

I enjoy substantiating my opinions with accurate and clear sources. Thankfully, Dawkins is such a great communicator that his words are very easy to understand. No convoluted attempts at "translation" and no embellishments are necessary.

Now, isn't it interesting how you see something so clearly while others see it so clearly on the other side of the debate?

Does that reveal character, reading comprehension, intelligence, or bias? Or any combination of such?

Stepping back, I find it fascinating how some will interpret his body of work one way while others see it wildly different. You know, kind of like how John 3:16 is interpreted by it's readers.

Some see it as exclusionary and hateful. Some see it as liberating and noble. And to all who have studied it and read it in context, it's "obvious."

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Most people don't have a really hard time determining the difference between polite and impolite discourse.

At least, I don't. I guess some people are hypersensitive or just boorish though. I can't help that.

And some people would say that calling someone "hypersensitive" or "boorish" while posting hilarious pictures to be mockery and ridicule.

See the issue from another angle now?

 

[Kathryn]

Who says that calling religions out is impolite?

Tristesse, I think we've had this conversation recently but apparently it bears repeating.

When one comes in on the middle of an ongoing conversation, it's best to go back and read the threads to catch up. Otherwise you're asking people to repeat themselves rather than just doing the minimal amount of "thread research" yourself.

 

[Kathryn]

And some people would say that calling someone "hypersensitive" or "boorish" while posting hilarious pictures to be mockery and ridicule.

See the issue from another angle now?

Mystic, I've never had a problem seeing things from both sides. One can't be a part of this forum for as long as either of us has been not to be able to know how it feels to bear the brunt of ridicule and mockery.

I didn't call anyone "hypersensitive" or "boorish" however. So - not guilty. What I said was,

Most people don't have a really hard time determining the difference between polite and impolite discourse.

At least, I don't. I guess some people are hypersensitive or just boorish though. I can't help that.

That wasn't a veiled statement. You should know me well enough by now to know I pretty much just lay it out there - I don't make subtle innuendos about people (subtlety is not one of my talents). I meant it generally. GENERALLY SPEAKING, most people don't have a really hard time determining the difference between polite and impolite discourse. Some people though are hypersensitive. And some people are boorish in their behavior. I mean, I think this is true. Isn't it?

 

[Tristesse]

Tristesse, I think we've had this conversation recently but apparently it bears repeating.

When one comes in on the middle of an ongoing conversation, it's best to go back and read the threads to catch up. Otherwise you're asking people to repeat themselves rather than just doing the minimal amount of "thread research" yourself.

Agreed, however, if you disagree with my comment, thats a pretty easy thing to resolve.

 

[Kathryn]

Who says that calling religions out is impolite?

I don't know. I didn't say it. Maybe you can read up through the posts and see if someone else said it.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Mystic, I've never had a problem seeing things from both sides. One can't be a part of this forum for as long as either of us has been not to be able to know how it feels to bear the brunt of ridicule and mockery.

I didn't call anyone "hypersensitive" or "boorish" however. So - not guilty.

Not accusing you of anything, K. Just my failed attempt at being Socratic.

I love the pictures though. You always post the most hilarious pics to bolster your points.

 

[Kathryn]

Not accusing you of anything, K. Just my failed attempt at being Socratic.

I love the pictures though. You always post the most hilarious pics to bolster your points.

Thank you - it's an outlet for my weird creative streak!

I mean, my husband won't let me shellac crazy *** pictures all over our counter tops or tape them up all over the walls.

LOL, if he truly grasped the principle of "A picture is worth a thousand words," maybe he could see the benefit...

But then - I'd probably hand him the picture AND a thousand words - at least that's what I do here...

OOPs!

 

[MysticSang'ha]

That wasn't a veiled statement. You should know me well enough by now to know I pretty much just lay it out there - I don't make subtle innuendos about people (subtlety is not one of my talents). I meant it generally. GENERALLY SPEAKING, most people don't have a really hard time determining the difference between polite and impolite discourse. Some people though are hypersensitive. And some people are boorish in their behavior. I mean, I think this is true. Isn't it?

I think so. And I think some specific religious beliefs are kinda goofy.

I can't agree with you all the time now!! :badger:

Are we still getting together for that wine or what? It's almost noon. I think that qualifies.

 

[Nakosis]

There are better methods than mocking and ridicule. Everything from the use logic in debate to legal or political maneuvers or even physical violence. After all, what would you be willing to do to save millions of lives? A bullet to the back of his head followed by your own trial and potential execution for murder?

Better? In what sense?

Killing someone is better then mocking them?
I suppose everyone has their own sense of morality.

There is I think the possibility of taking mocking too far. It can become a form of bullying. I think if it passes that threshold it is too much to be justified for any cause.

 

[Kathryn]

I think so. And I think some specific religious beliefs are kinda goofy.

I can't agree with you all the time now!! :badger:

Are we still getting together for that wine or what? It's almost noon. I think that qualifies.

Wine? It's five o'clock somewhere - I say let's break out the tequila!

 

[Kathryn]

Ahem. Attention. ATTENTION.

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THE MORATORIUM ON MOCKING AND RIDICULE IS LIFTED. ALL COMMENTS WELCOME WITH THE CONDITION THAT THEIR IMPACT IS LESSENED BY THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL.

All recipes and advice on how to dispel of the near-certain hangover are appreciated.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

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THE MORATORIUM ON MOCKING AND RIDICULE IS LIFTED. ALL COMMENTS WELCOME WITH THE CONDITION THAT THEIR IMPACT IS LESSENED BY THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL.

All recipes and advice on how to dispel of the near-certain hangover are appreciated.

Cool! I'll bring the donkey and the ping pong balls.

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What? Why is everyone running away?

 

[Kathryn]

Cool! I'll bring the donkey and the ping pong balls.

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What? Why is everyone running away?

OK look, on one condition - no ridiculing the donkey.

 

[Nakosis]

Religious mocking at Prudue...

Blag Hag: Purdue's Pastafarian Preaching!

 

[HerDotness]

Uhhhh...I can't drink, but I'll be happy to point fingers and laugh at y'all when you get tipsy and say sillier things than anyone's said here so far.

Can I still join ya?

 

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[Kathryn]

Uhhhh...I can't drink, but I'll be happy to point fingers and laugh at y'all when you get tipsy and say sillier things than anyone's said here so far.

Can I still join ya?

Absolutely! You can be the designated non driver - everyone is welcome to crash at my place!