Midnight Pete
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An embryo is human life at an early stage of development, heathen. Eventually, embryos become people like you and me. How can something that doesn't have personhood become a person?
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Is it okay to kill this?
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An embryo is human life at an early stage of development, heathen. Eventually, embryos become people like you and me. How can something that doesn't have personhood become a person?
Danmac
Well-Known Member
What kills me is these are the same people that are angry at God for allowing suffering, when they support abortion doctors that do the same.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
For what it's worth, I do not support abortion doctors when they scramble the brains of unborn children or dissolve them with saline solution.
dust1n
Zindīq
DNA and stem cells. An embryo and an infant are two different things altogether. The appropriate word would be embryocide.
dust1n
Zindīq
Looking at even a portion of this thread, we have already discovered that there is no mechanism in the brain for a fetus do even feel, let alone comprehend suffering, until about 28 weeks. Anything before would be a sufferingless incident, so it might be your preconceived notions that are killing you.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
"Embryo" and "infant" represent two points on a continuum.
McBell
Unbound
Yes they are.
However, they are given different names because they are DIFFERENT.
dust1n
Zindīq
Right. And there is a reason why they represent two different points on a continuum.
Danmac
Well-Known Member
I am in agreement with you. But I don't see how people can condemn god for permitting suffering, when those that support abortion do the same. I know of instances where they were attempting a late term abortion, but the baby was accidentally delivered alive. They still performed the abortion anyway outside of the womb. I wonder if God is cruel for allowing such things.
Danmac
Well-Known Member
What about the ones where the baby is delivered alive and killed anyway. Do you think those babies feel?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
... and then there is the partial birth abortion. If you have had one of these or have performed one of these as a "doctor", you probably don't have a soul.
Danmac
Well-Known Member
Here are some testimonies of botched abortions. These abortions resulted in much suffering. I wonder how many abortion supporters condemn God for permitting suffering, but condone these horrible acts.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...sg=AFQjCNHo8gnGBXQwOVSfi8qjba_BGzaKmQ&cad=rja
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...sg=AFQjCNHo8gnGBXQwOVSfi8qjba_BGzaKmQ&cad=rja
Nerthus
Wanderlust
They are horrible, no one could deny that, but there is a different to believing that woman have the right to choose abortion at an early stage. Not everyone who believes this, will condone or support partial birth abortions etc.
Danmac
Well-Known Member
Compromise is the devils greatest weapon
Nerthus
Wanderlust
Okay.
McBell
Unbound
Wait...
I though that people believing he does not exist was his greatest weapon...
I sure wish you theists would come to come collaboration on what exactly is his greatest weapon.
end of time
Reality check
I personally know woman that have had abortions, one in particular has had several. These women are now tortured souls. Very depressed, Bad things happening in there life
Nerthus
Wanderlust
Karma.