I did not refute by myself most scholars saying 1Timothy, 2Timothy, and Titus were not written by Paul. I put myself with the quotes they refute most scholars with their words. I have no problem following them. It appears you haven’t heard their words let alone see they’re correct.
Once again, you did not refute anything.
Polycarp isn’t my only best “source.” Polycarp knew John the Apostle-he was the last known connection with the Apostles so John knew Paul while he was alive as well the other Apostles. Then Irenaeus knew Polycarp. Thus, my best ‘sources” are Polycarp, John the Apostle, the rest of the Apostles, and Irenaeus. Polycarp and Irenaeus took the deep dive going back to John to-into the works of Paul. I see modern scholars haven’t taken that deep dive.
He probably did not know John, there is no evidence of that. Their lives would have barely intersected with each other:
"We have no text from Polycarp himself making this claim. Nor do any of the letters we have addressed to Polycarp mention it. There’s also no evidence any Apostle was actually alive when Polycarp was even a schoolboy—which would have been the late 70s A.D. at the earliest, when the Apostles would have been in their late 60s or even 80s, if any were even alive at all, and we have no evidence any were. Average lifespan for an adult at that time was 48 (
On the Historicity of Jesus, Element 22, Ch. 4). Not even the
Martyrdom of Polycarp, which is basically a fawning eulogy of him, makes any mention of his ever knowing any Apostles or tutoring under John."
The claim comes up a lot that Polycarp met John—the original Apostle, Disciple of Jesus, Brother to James, the “Pillar” of Galatians 2, He of The Twelve. Enough to warrant a response you can bookmark. The short answer to the question, “Did he?” is no. It’s not likely at any rate. Later legends...
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If you had read the quotes in the Wikipedia link you provided you would have read that argument. I.H. Marwell (I think it was him and I think I got the last name right-not going back to look I don’t want to risk losing this post) argued with two or three scholars saying to what you are that Paul didn’t write them. He said it is virtually certain Polycarp used 1Timothy and 2Timothy (in his preaching). He’s correct. Irenaeus learned from Polycarp and he used all thirteen letters Paul wrote to cite in many of his quotes of the NT.
Yes, I did and since it was in incredibly weak argument I ignored it. Here is what you are doing wrong. You are willing to believe anything that supports you no matter how poor the evidence. I am merely pointing out how weak your evidence is.
Acts 15:41, “ And he (Paul) went through Syria and Cilia, strengthening the churches.” This defines Paul was organizing church hierarchy in his time. Why have you scholars been unable to find who the unknown student is who you say wrote 1Timothy, 2Timothy, and Titus? More important is why have you not found Paul is their author that is traced all the way back to the Apostle John who knew him in their time? Your unknown student of Paul’s doctrine can’t go back that far to his time or soon/any time after either. There was no one left who knew Paul in his time-John was the last one who did.
Do you think that the experts are ignorant of those verses? You appear to be conflating the fact that he was working on a process and a story from years later after he was dead and his work began to bear fruit.
You are lacking in reliable evidence for any of your claims.
