Is it possible to talk with an atheist?

[Sanmario]

@Jayhawker Soule


Dear readers here, that is how posters do to evade answering a simple question with a clear answer, when they don't have any answer because they are ignorant!

So, the question is what do you think of my concept of God, namely, God in concept is the creator of everything with a beginning?

Answer that right away, no need to refer to a post for me to read.

First, answer yes or no, and explain, briefly.

Otherwise you are into throwing stink bombs.


Dear readers, this poster will throw another stink bomb, see if he does not, instead of answering my simple clear concise and precise question:
"What do you think of my concept of God, namely, God is the creator of everything with a beginning?"


You see, dear readers, when a poster has an answer to a simple question, he should answer right away, instead of referring the reader to a post.

Why?

Simple, because that is a way to run away knowing that he is ignorant totally on how to answer the simple question.


Let us sit back and await Soule to react to that message from me - most probably he will throw another stink bomb.

 

[Sanmario]

Dear other posters here, please wait for me to finish with Soule, then I will take up with one of you here, but you can already present yourself to be next to talk with me, on one one one, what is your reaction to my concept of God, namely, God is the creator of everything with a beginning.


So, all readers that I have liked to deal with one on one, please bear with me, until I am through with Soule.

And if I am not through with Soule indefinitely?

That is very good, then I have someone who can talk with concise, precise, simple, clear language instead of throwing stink bombs all the time.

Dear readers, think about that.

 

[Sanmario]

Dear other posters here, please wait for me to finish with Soule, then I will take up with one of you here, but you can already present yourself to be next to talk with me, on one one one, what is your reaction to my concept of God, namely, God is the creator of everything with a beginning.


So, all readers that I have liked to deal with one on one, please bear with me, until I am through with Soule.

And if I am not through with Soule indefinitely?

That is very good, then I have someone who can talk with concise, precise, simple, clear language instead of throwing stink bombs all the time.

Dear readers, think about that.

 

[Willamena]

You say: "See post #155 ... (and try to be less sophomoric)."

Tell me what your referred to post says, no need for me to go there, if you know what is its core, otherwise you are just into wasting my time and my trouble.

No offense, but asking another to repeat himself because you are too lazy to go back one page is "wasting time and trouble," too. Just not yours.

 

[Sanmario]

Dear other posters here, please wait for me to finish with Soule, then I will take up with one of you here, but you can already present yourself to be next to talk with me, on one one one, what is your reaction to my concept of God, namely, God is the creator of everything with a beginning.


So, all readers that I have liked to deal with one on one, please bear with me, until I am through with Soule.

And if I am not through with Soule indefinitely?

That is very good, then I have someone who can talk with concise, precise, simple, clear language instead of throwing stink bombs all the time.

Dear readers, think about that.

 

[Willamena]

Dear other posters here, please wait for me to finish with Soule, then I will take up with one of you here, but you can already present yourself to be next to talk with me, on one one one, what is your reaction to my concept of God, namely, God is the creator of everything with a beginning.


So, all readers that I have liked to deal with one on one, please bear with me, until I am through with Soule.

And if I am not through with Soule indefinitely?

That is very good, then I have someone who can talk with concise, precise, simple, clear language instead of throwing stink bombs all the time.

Dear readers, think about that.

I've had enough of this P.O.E.

 

[Sanmario]

I will wait for Soule to react, and I will be back in the afternoon, that is my way of getting out for a breath of fresh air. Hahaha.

When I get back and Soule still has not reacted to my question, then I will ask who is keen to deal with me on one on one basis, on the issue, what is your reaction to my concept of God, namely: in concept God is the creator and operator of everything with a beginning.

It is now in my place, eight hours in advance of Greenwich, 09:25 a.m., so by past 1200 hours, i.e. high noon, I will report back, and see whether Soule has a message for me, that is not another stink bomb; otherwise you here anyone can present yourself to talk with me one on one basis, on the reaction from you to my concept of God, namely: in concept God is the creator of everything with a beginning.


Yes! I am running away for the time being, hahahaha!

 

[leibowde84]

@leibowde84


Now, I have said that I will focus on talking with you, so let us continue to talk.


You are of the idea that there cannot be a falsifiable concept of God.

Do you at all have a concept of God, even not falsifiable?

Here is my concept of God:
In concept God is the creator of everything with a beginning.

Don't factor in your question whether it is falsifiable or not.

You understand that sentence, namely, in concept God is the creator of everything with a beginning:, yes? no?

Sure. That would create a burden on you to show that the universe had a beginning, though. We currently do not know that.

 

[icehorse]

God is the creator of everything with a beginning.

Define "beginning" ?

 

[Sanmario]

@siti
@leibowde84
@Jayhawker Soule
@Readers and posters


Well, dear readers here, I am back.

I had the intention of having a sustained exchange with anyone of the following three posters:

@siti
@leibowde84
@Jayhawker Soule

I can only and want to deal with only any one poster at a time.

If the three above are no longer keen to have a sustained exchange with me, then I can invite anyone available and willing to take up a one on one exchange with me.

 

[Sanmario]

@siti
@leibowde84
@Jayhawker Soule
@Readers and posters


Okay, leibowde84 is it.


For a starter, dear leibowde84, do you at all have a concept of god; I have a concept of God, namely, in concept God is the creator of everything with a beginning.

From leibowde84

Sanmario said: ↑

@leibowde84

Now, I have said that I will focus on talking with you, so let us continue to talk.

You are of the idea that there cannot be a falsifiable concept of God.

Do you at all have a concept of God, even not falsifiable?

Here is my concept of God:
In concept God is the creator of everything with a beginning.

Don't factor in your question whether it is falsifiable or not.

You understand that sentence, namely, in concept God is the creator of everything with a beginning:, yes? no?

Sure. That would create a burden on you to show that the universe had a beginning, though. We currently do not know that.

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If God exists, he always has, and we certainly haven't found him yet. My biggest fear is settling on what could be an illusion when the truth might be attainable.


Post #189 leibowde84, Today at 10:54 AM

 

[Sanmario]

@leibowde84
@Readers and posters


Dear readers:
People want to talk logic and falsifiable concepts and string theory or whatever.

And I like to talk God.

And the same people also want to talk God, whether He exists or not.

Now, dear readers here, I ask you:
Doesn't everyone who does think on reason and observation and thus into intelligent conclusion, don't they all everyone who thinks on reason and observation and thus into intelligent conclusion, don't they got to have in their mind a concept of the thing they are talking about?

Because if they don't, then they are talking into inanity and vacuity, it's all stupidity on both sides, or from everyone to everyone else, all stupidity.

Next time you read an atheist talking about no god or God, see whether at any time he presents a concept of god or God, and I also refer to non-atheists who talk about god or God, whether they ever present their concept of god or God.

That is why I am asking leibowde84 and everyone here that cares to talk about god or God, existing or not existing, first and foremost, tell me, "Do you have in your mind at all a concept of god or God?"

Don't bring in logic, and the universe, and string theory, and falsifiability, and whatever else you want to drop of terms you come upon in your readings of other peoples' thinking, unless you first and foremost, in most particular when the issue is on god or God, existing or not existing, give your concept of god or God.

You will say, you don't accept god or God exists, so you don't need to have a concept of god or God?

I tell you, you are full of inanity and vacuity, talking about something without knowing what it is, how can you know that it is not present and facing you when it is actually facing you?

You mean that you are not committed to any concept of god or God, because you don't accept the existence of god or God?

In which case, then at least read up on what people who do know god or God exists, what they mean by god or God, the concept - and then explain to them that the concept from them of god or God is an invalid concept.

Now, go and find out what is an invalid concept, and we will talk about whether the concept of God from yours truly, is an invalid or a valid concept, namely:

In concept God is the creator of everything with a beginning.


Later.

@siti
@leibowde84
@Jayhawker Soule
@Readers and posters


Okay, leibowde84 is it.


For a starter, dear leibowde84, do you at all have a concept of god; I have a concept of God, namely, in concept God is the creator of everything with a beginning.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

@Jayhawker Soule

So, the question is what do you think of my concept of God, namely, God in concept is the creator of everything with a beginning?

Answer that right away, no need to refer to a post for me to read.

First, answer yes or no, and explain, briefly.

Otherwise you are into throwing stink bombs.

Fair enough:

• So, the question is what do you think of my concept of God, namely, God in concept is the creator of everything with a beginning?
• I think it's fine.
• Answer that right away, no need to refer to a post for me to read.
  OK, boss.
• First, answer yes or no, and explain, briefly.
  Your question does not lend itself to a yes or no answer.
• Otherwise you are into throwing stink bombs.
  You whine a lot.

Now, a couple of recommendations:

• Familiarize yourself (at least minimally) with the Kalām cosmological argument.
• Consider the implication of String Theory on the second premise.
• Consider, further, that a First Cause (presuming that there is such a thing) is a far cry from preternatural agency.

 

[Sanmario]

@Jayhawker Soule


Thanks for coming over.

It is in my place right now 09:00 p.m., Saturday, April 8, 2017.

What is your date and time at your place?

I see the online expanding circle in your image avatar, that's how I know that you are present.

Now, may I know what is your concept of God?

Pardon the repetition, here is my concept of God:
In concept God is the creator of everything with a beginning.

Hope you will reply to this message, you are not atheist, but I also want to talk with non-atheists, to test my proof for God existing.

Fair enough:

• So, the question is what do you think of my concept of God, namely, God in concept is the creator of everything with a beginning?
• I think it's fine.
• Answer that right away, no need to refer to a post for me to read.
  OK, boss.
• First, answer yes or no, and explain, briefly.
  Your question does not lend itself to a yes or no answer.
• Otherwise you are into throwing stink bombs.
  You whine a lot.

Now, a couple of recommendations:

• Familiarize yourself (at least minimally) with the Kalām cosmological argument.
• Consider the implication of String Theory on the second premise.
• Consider, further, that a First Cause (presuming that there is such a thing) is a far cry from preternatural agency.

 

[Sanmario]

@Jayhawker Soule

Are you around in this thread?

I am waiting...

 

[columbus]

@Jayhawker Soule

Are you around in this thread?

I am waiting...

You invite responses from people, then ignore the responses. You won't get much discussion that way.
Tom

 

[Sanmario]

@Jayhawker Soule


When you come over, read here my proof for God existing in concept as creator of everything with a beginning.

1. Enunciate the concept of God, namely, in concept God is the creator of everything with a beginning.
2. I go to the realm of existence to look for everything with a beginning.
3. I see everything with my eyes and I experience everything I meet as for example the babies at home and the roses in the garden, and everything else, you mention it, it has a beginning.
4. So, there are everything with a beginng that we are living with and in and within.
5. They are evidence of God existing in concept as creator of everything with a beginning.
6. Conclusion from evidence: God exists in concept as creator of everything with a beginning.

Still waiting for your reaction, as you are online, though you could be away from this thread.

Read you soon, I hope.

 

[Sanmario]

@Jayhawker Soule

I am going to read something elsewhere, but I will return here to see whether you have replied to my proof for God existing in concept as creator of everything with a beginning.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

@Jayhawker Soule

I am going to read something elsewhere, but I will return here to see whether you have replied to my proof for God existing in concept as creator of everything with a beginning.

First, in reply to an earlier question, I live in the USA Midwest (GMT -6).

Second, I may be interested in chatting further, but only if and when I see a cogent response to my recommendations. So, for example, Kalam has been debated extensively and presumably by people far, far superior to you and I. I have little desire to waste my time in a feeble attempt to replicate that discussion with someone who gives every indication of being driven by a need for attention.

Finally, my view of god is wholly irrelevant to the fools errand of proving your view of god.

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BTW: Are you from writing from Western Australia? I ask only because I'd love to visit its wine country someday.

 

[Sanmario]

@Jayhawker Soule


I am going to read something in the net, but I will return to my thread here later, to see what Kalam argument Jay has presented, and that he has a concept if at all of god or God, so that his brand Kalam argument will be about god or God in concept as per his drafted text in concise, precise, clear, simple, and concrete words.