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Is It Really Just Your Body?

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Yes, it absolutely is.

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Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Although I realize myself to be very likely a simulated being, my body appears to me as being so realistic, and this feels very real to me! :)
Mere convenient programmed response. :D
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Even if I know that I share this body with millions of non-human microbes, this is mine it is me and they are mostly welcome to join me. Still, I am to be inviolable.
 

Psalm23

Well-Known Member
I don't agree with the pro choice argument. The way I see it is the mother is carrying a child who also has a body of their own. I see abortion as taking the life of the child. If the child survives an abortion attempt, there can be physical consequences as well as emotional trauma. There are mothers who don't want an abortion and yet are forced by another or may feel that they have to get an abortion for other reasons. This can lead to emotional trauma for the mother.

I can see a case for abortion in the case of the life of the mother to save her life if she wanted to go through with that .
 

Psalm23

Well-Known Member
Do you then say that there is no right to bodily autonomy? Are vaccine mandates legal in your opinion? Should organ donation be mandatory or at least the default?

No, however I don't see this as a matter of simply right to bodily autonomy. The child has a body too and a life. Abortion takes that life of the child away .
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Even if I know that I share this body with millions of non-human microbes, this is mine it is me and they are mostly welcome to join me. Still, I am to be inviolable.
I see it as you can control it, but you really don't own it.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
No, however I don't see this as a matter of simply right to bodily autonomy. The child has a body too and a life. Abortion takes that life of the child away .

Not really.

It's still the woman's body. And her decision to do what she wants to that which is requiring her, to grow it.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
It isn't a right to kill a baby in the womb for any reason. Why is abortion often said to be morally ok and yet if a person was to kill a pregnant woman, the person is charged with a double murder?
It isn't a right to kill a baby, it's a right to not be pregnant.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
It isn't a right to kill a baby in the womb for any reason. Why is abortion often said to be morally ok and yet if a person was to kill a pregnant woman, the person is charged with a double murder?

If all lives matter, even the unborn. Who takes precedent in this scenario?

A 10-year-old was forced to cross state lines for an abortion after Ohio's ban went into place. The Indiana doctor who helped her will soon be unable to assist others.

Should this 10 year old be allowed to die in labor because it's "God's" will?
 

Psalm23

Well-Known Member
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