Is it sin?

[ChristineM]

It is very popular by satans will. God warned all at 2Timothy 3 what this world is..Instead of loving God they seek $$$ and pleasures for their flesh. Satan is the god of this system of things. For the majority.

You opinion is noted... But to give more credibility how about providing evidence of god or satan?

Don't knock pleasures of the flesh, they have their place in life (most lives anyway)

 

[Sheldon]

My point was, why do I need to - can you not tell the difference yourself that you need some academic attestation to prove otherwise?

You made a bare clam, several, so they're meaningless of course.

Pornography is disgusting, lewd, and disrespectful for all parties involved.

Then don't get involved, it's not mandatory. Just stop telling others how they should live their lives.

How much is too much? The actors are insatiable, their lascivious and depraved. They are gluttonous and hedonistic. Why am I explaining this?

Don't you know? I am at a loss, if I don't care for something I generally don't do it if that's an option, but the idea that something is immoral, just because I dislike it or find it repulsive would be pretty egotistical. What I find immoral are pernicious actions, actions that cause unnecessary suffering. Whereas you seem to enjoy that, revel in it. I feel duty bound to challenge such bigotry, you can believe whatever you wish, but trying to force your beliefs onto others, especially if they are pernicious like the homophobic comments you have made, then I will always challenge such behaviour.

 

[Sheldon]

It is very popular by satans will. God warned all at 2Timothy 3 what this world is..Instead of loving God they seek $$$ and pleasures for their flesh. Satan is the god of this system of things. For the majority.

These claims are meaningless unless you can demonstrate something beyond unevidenced assertion for this imaginary demon? If a deity didn't want us masturbating, then opposable thumbs was a very stupid mistake it made.

 

[kjw47]

You opinion is noted... But to give more credibility how about providing evidence of god or satan?

Don't knock pleasures of the flesh, they have their place in life (most lives anyway)

Creation is proof. If one actually believes it occurred with a big bang they are mistaken--The big bang = trillions x gazillions of atoms shooting out in utter confusion yet landing perfectly to create such beauty and harmony= 0 chance. If one shot out 30 pieces that made a jigsaw puzzle into space, never would they come together and become one again. Intelligent design is behind creation.
God warned all at 2Timothy 3 about the seeking of $$ and pleasure. Its what satans ruled system accomplishes.

 

[kjw47]

These claims are meaningless unless you can demonstrate something beyond unevidenced assertion for this imaginary demon? If a deity didn't want us masturbating, then opposable thumbs was a very stupid mistake it made.

I never mentioned masturbation. This is about pornography. The bible doesnt mention masturbation. It speaks against sex out of marriage with another. committing adultery on ones mate. And homosexuality-all 3 condemned to keep one out of Gods kingdom. Pornography usually entails those practicing the 3 things mentioned. a righteous person would not support those displaying their direct opposition to Gods will.

 

[Colt]

In the religion of Jesus progress rather than perfection was assumed. Jesus taught his followers to turn to the Fathers spirit within for guidance on all matters. For believers what would God say is an ideal sex life? For non-believers there is no ultimate authority beyond the desires of the human self.

 

[ChristineM]

Creation is proof.

No it's not, it is opinion based on faith

If one actually believes it occurred with a big bang they are mistaken--

The evidence indicates that it occurred

The big bang = trillions x gazillions of atoms shooting out in utter confusion yet landing perfectly to create such beauty and harmony= 0 chance.

Luckily it does not need your understanding. You forget two key factors, gravity and time... Lots and lots of time

If one shot out 30 pieces that made a jigsaw puzzle into space, never would they come together and become one again

Straw man, However there is no law in science to say they can never come together.

Intelligent design is behind creation.

Opinion and you are welcome to it... Provide evidence and I will review it

God warned all at 2Timothy 3 about the seeking of $$ and pleasure. Its what satans ruled system accomplishes.

Bronze age fairly stories design to foster hate against any who don't believe a particular way

 

[kjw47]

No it's not, it is opinion based on faith



The evidence indicates that it occurred



Luckily it does not need your understanding. You forget two key factors, gravity and time... Lots and lots of time



Straw man, However there is no law in science to say they can never come together.



Opinion and you are welcome to it... Provide evidence and I will review it



Bronze age fairly stories design to foster hate against any who don't believe a particular way

No hate fostered--false reasoning suggests that. Those that know God love all brothers and sisters that make up one human family, yet wisdom teaches to not participate with them in their dark things that rule their hearts.

 

[wellwisher]

It is normal to want to watch p-graphy.
However, it is not normal to watch p-graphy.
The unrealized desire to watch semi-naked ladies is the growing mental pain.
So, get to love your pain and dissatisfaction. Life after the Original Sin is like one huge pain.


The medicine, the doctors tell, that the healthy sexual act produces the good chemical pattern in the brain. However, the watching p-phy produces the poison in the brain.

About another theme:

It is normal to fear death, even with terrible fear (like Jesus Christ did before Crucifixion). But it is not normal to die: not normal to die physically, and not normal to die mentally.

About another theme:
"The luck is one of the God's names. Because to be lucky is good. And all good notions are the God's names: Love, Justice, Way, Truth, Police, etc. "

St Paul said, "Sin is not imputed where there is no law." Law defines sin by telling us what to do and nor do, by settings up social punishment to create inner fear. Sin has a connection to fear. Hell is a scary place because it is the sum of all fear created by law. Without law there is no fear or sin.

For example, in the USA, marijuana is legal in some states and it is illegal in others. Sin only appears in those states where is it illegal, since only there is there fear that punishment will be inflicted, if caught. This observation shows there is nothing universal about this type of sin since is varies with geography. This type of sin is based on the human subjectivity of those in power. There are also laws of God which apply to all. Not all sin is equal.

An interesting example is connected to lying versus the truth. In an eternal sense truth is good and lying is considered a sin. Truth provides the best reality information and therefore maximizes adaptation. Say you belonged to a cult, that enforces the lie of its orthodoxy, with punishment such as censorship and exile if you do not carry the lie. In this case it would be a manmade sin, not to practice eternal sin. It can get confusing and many get lost. But this is all based on knowledge of good and evil; manmade or eternal definitions of right and wrong; orthodoxy, and your conformity to that knowledge via fear.

Pornography is legal and is part of the free market. At one level it is not a sin since it is legal based on the laws of man. Religion may see this differently because it can have a negative impact on one's adaptation to reality. It is mostly fantasy and self pleasure. It is not based on natural human interaction, that takes into account the differences between the needs and wants of people. It could ruin a marriage. Adoption is easier if you stay in touch with reality.

 

[ChristineM]

In the religion of Jesus progress rather than perfection was assumed. Jesus taught his followers to turn to the Fathers spirit within for guidance on all matters. For believers what would God say is an ideal sex life? For non-believers there is no ultimate authority beyond the desires of the human self.

The ultimate authority is the self and the law.

 

[ChristineM]

No hate fostered--false reasoning suggests that. Those that know God love all brothers and sisters that make up one human family, yet wisdom teaches to not participate with them in their dark things that rule their hearts.

We are not interested in reasoning but in evidence and the evidence suggests the bb occurred

So why does religion fight religion? Even different branches of the same religion have often happy to kill each other.

No false reasoning in the hatred of others taught in the bible.

 

[Colt]

The ultimate authority is the self and the law.

For children of the devil, unwitting citizens of his failed coup d'eta, that's true.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

These claims are meaningless unless you can demonstrate something beyond unevidenced assertion for this imaginary demon? If a deity didn't want us masturbating, then opposable thumbs was a very stupid mistake it made.

P1: There are claims, which are without evidence.
C: Therefore those claims are meaningless.

Can you spot the problems?

 

[ChristineM]

For children of the devil, unwitting citizens of his failed coup d'eta, that's true.

Please provide falsifiable, peer reviewed evidence of this devil guy.

While you are at it, how about evidence of god.. you claim ultimate authority so surely you must have evidence that he exists...

Or perhaps not.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Please provide falsifiable, peer reviewed evidence of this devil guy.

While you are at it, how about evidence of god.. you claim ultimate authority so surely you must have evidence that he exists...

Or perhaps not.

So how is it, that you demand evidence from other people? What is your evidence for the fact, that you demand evidence from other people?

 

[Colt]

Please provide falsifiable, peer reviewed evidence of this devil guy.

While you are at it, how about evidence of god.. you claim ultimate authority so surely you must have evidence that he exists...

Or perhaps not.

God is like love; God is Love and much more. We all know what love is even though it can't be weighed in a balance, it's not peer reviewed and can't be tested in the science lab.

Atheists know that spirituality is a subjective experience like love and cannot be "proven" with logic. Atheist typically hide behind this fact as the proof of their anti-God belief.

You are proof that the anti-God spirit exists.

 

[ChristineM]

God is like love; God is Love and much more. We all know what love is even though it can't be weighed in a balance, it's not peer reviewed and can't be tested in the science lab.

Atheists know that spirituality is a subjective experience like love and cannot be "proven" with logic. Atheist typically hide behind this fact as the proof of their anti-God belief.

You are proof that the anti-God spirit exists.

Love can be observed on. MRI. And it is tested often. There your strawman fails

So you say your god is love? Then how come the hatred of those who don't believe your god, seems to me your god belief/love is selective.

Atheism is not anti god, so once again i learn something from you, that you don't understand atheism. Atheism is disbelief that a god or gods exist... Provide falsifiable evidence instead of straw men and you will wipe out atheism in a single stroke.

Nope. I am proof that i see no evidence that a god exists. But you are welcome to your dreams

 

[Sheldon]

ChristineM said: ↑
You opinion is noted... But to give more credibility how about providing evidence of god or satan?

Creation is proof.

How can a bare unevidenced claim be evidence for another bare unevidenced claim?

If one actually believes it occurred with a big bang they are mistaken--The big bang = trillions x gazillions of atoms shooting out in utter confusion yet landing perfectly to create such beauty and harmony= 0 chance. If one shot out 30 pieces that made a jigsaw puzzle into space, never would they come together and become one again. Intelligent design is behind creation.
God warned all at 2Timothy 3 about the seeking of $$ and pleasure. Its what satans ruled system accomplishes.

Utter gibberish sorry, and if you want to deny accepted scientific theories I suggest you get yourself published, and when your work is peer reviewed and you get a Nobel prize in physics for falsifying an accepted scientific theory, then I will pay due deference. In the meantime, given your disjointed rant about the big bang is risible nonsense, I'm going to point, and laugh at it.

There is no objective evidence for intelligent design, and even if there were no scientific evidence for the origins of the universe, and species evolution were not an objective scientific fact, creationism would remain an unevidenced myth.

 

[kjw47]

We are not interested in reasoning but in evidence and the evidence suggests the bb occurred

So why does religion fight religion? Even different branches of the same religion have often happy to kill each other.

No false reasoning in the hatred of others taught in the bible.

We are not interested in reasoning but in evidence and the evidence suggests the bb occurred

So why does religion fight religion? Even different branches of the same religion have often happy to kill each other.

No false reasoning in the hatred of others taught in the bible.

Yes false religions participate in the wars of hatred. The one religion Jesus is with does not. 99% of all religion on earth is false. Referred to as the whore of babylon in the bible.

 

[Sheldon]

I never mentioned masturbation. This is about pornography.

Wow I've been using porn wrong all these years, who knew?

The bible doesnt mention masturbation.

Yes it is something of dry dull read, I agree.

It speaks against sex out of marriage with another. committing adultery on ones mate. And homosexuality-all 3 condemned to keep one out of Gods kingdom.

Who cares, Harry Potter outlines the rules of Quidditch, but I wouldn't lose any sleep if someone broke imaginary rules.

Pornography usually entails those practicing the 3 things mentioned. a righteous person would not support those displaying their direct opposition to Gods will.

Yeah I don't believe you, and since masturbation harms no one, and nether does pornography ostensibly, the objections are subjective. If you don't like porn, don't use it, if you think masturbation is wrong don't do it, but others don't share these beliefs, and I am one such person which is why I am minded to comment.