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Is it time for a visit from God?

ChrisP

Veteran Member
Bouncing Ball said:
can you please give me an explaination of that, because i think you can..
Because said part of Universe would be lacking total objectivity of said Universe, said Chris.
 

flupke

Member
Katzpur said:
I don't think he'd necessarily come up with some miracles. A prophet is, after all, not a soothsayer of some kind. And God wouldn't call him to perform magic tricks. A prophet would lead people towards God. Lives would be made better because of him. In other words, you would know him by the fruits he produced. If he was a fake, sooner or later people would catch on. Everything he said would be forgotten within a relatively short period of time after he died and there would be somebody new in line to take his place.
kind of a very vague answer...
Still don't see how you would recognize 'produced fruits' from 'apparent produced fruits'.
Suppose the prophet is modern and broadcasts on television; how could you ever test real from fraud ? I'm sure there are tons of 'frauds' out there already.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
flupke said:
kind of a very vague answer...
Still don't see how you would recognize 'produced fruits' from 'apparent produced fruits'.
Suppose the prophet is modern and broadcasts on television; how could you ever test real from fraud ? I'm sure there are tons of 'frauds' out there already.
Maybe it's vague. Since you're an atheiest, I'm sure it would take a bonafide miracle to convince you. Again, about all I can say is that a real prophet would provide people with guidance and direction to help them live better lives. His message would people to a higher plane than they were before they found him. He would be inspired to great acts of compassion towards humanity. He would draw people of all faiths together. He would speak as God's representative and those who believed him would know that when they were listening to him, they were hearing what God wanted them to hear.

True prophets don't, by the way, expect their followers to drink cyanide-laced cool-aid. They don't baracade their followers in barracks and allow them to die in burning infernos. I don't know what an "apparent produced fruit" is. But I know what "good fruit" is because I've seen good fruit. I could give you an example of some of the good fruit I'm speaking of, but I don't know what good it would do. It doesn't involve having a paraplegic grow a leg, so it's probably not quite spectaular enough to count.

I'm sorry I can't do a better job of expressing myself. You've seen my best effort.
 

Toad

Member
Katzpur said:
I don't think he'd necessarily come up with some miracles. A prophet is, after all, not a soothsayer of some kind. And God wouldn't call him to perform magic tricks. A prophet would lead people towards God. Lives would be made better because of him. In other words, you would know him by the fruits he produced. If he was a fake, sooner or later people would catch on. Everything he said would be forgotten within a relatively short period of time after he died and there would be somebody new in line to take his place.
Pat Robertson comes to mind.
Get him off the pulpit!
Poisoning minds coast to coast, along with most of those other 'men of god':shout
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Toad said:
Pat Robertson comes to mind.
Get him off the pulpit!
Poisoning minds coast to coast, along with most of those other 'men of god':shout
I agree, he doesn't exactly strike me as the kind of Christian Jesus Christ would want representing Him. On the other hand, has he actually ever claimed to be a prophet? I really don't know the answer to this question, because I never watch him.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Time for a visit from God? Nopers.
Time for a visit from an Enlightened woman? You bet it is.

I don't think we can get much riper for a better understanding to more intelligent questions.
 
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