Trey of Diamonds
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While it is your right to believe such, I believe you are wrong... very, very wrong.
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Is it wrong to advocate homosexuality as a sin?
- Thread starter Jeremiah
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While it is your right to believe such, I believe you are wrong... very, very wrong.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
What does that have to do with this discussion?
Autodidact
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There's the statement. Where's the proof?
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
But, but... without arrogant attempts to assert someone else's state of mind, he has no argument!
Autodidact
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Don't worry about it. Fatihah is in the habit of lying about other people.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Oh, I'm not worried about it. Just hoping to point out Fatihah's illogical position to him/her.
Autodidact
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I'ts not just logic that Fatihah lacks, it's honesty.
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
I have heard it said that sex that involves enjoyment is a sin and that sex is for the creation of children only, to be perfomed for the sake of duty.
Pure nonsense of course but there are those fundamentalist who believe it. I suppose this is the root of both male and female circumcisions, an attempt to remove as much enjoyment from the sex act as possible.Response: The qur'an does not speak directly about lesbianism. However, in ch.30: 21,22 it says:
"And of His Signs is that He has created wives for you from among yourselves that you may find peace in them, and He has put love and tenderness between you. In that, surely, are signs for a people who reflect".
The "you" referred to in the verse are men. Allah reveals the verse to Muhammad and speaks directly to the men because men are to be the protectors of women. Therefore, the verse is speaking of the loving marriage between man and woman and condemns the act of lust between the same sex, as demonstrated in ch.7:81, ch.29:28,29 and ch. 26:165 when he punishes the people of Lut who were homosexuals.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Sorry, but I don't see where that verse says anything about homosexuality at all. Not that it matters.
Response: And you haven't refuted a word I've said with any logical rebuttle either.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Ok, I'll use the same logic you are: homosexuality is acceptable and natural because my religion says so.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Of course not, you haven't offered me anything to rebut. You've made your assertions, I've made mine. The difference is, yours are groundless, based on nothing but bigoted assumptions.
Response: And I assure you, it's not.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Geez! How arrogant can you get? :biglaugh:
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Why? Because you say so? Sorry, that doesn't work on three year olds, it won't work on us.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
I assure you, more.
Response: Read the context.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
I believe you. Wait.... isn't arrogance a sin?I assure you, more.
Autodidact
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Since I know you can't understand the simplest concepts, I'd prefer that you just provide the verses and let me figure out what they mean.
So the Qu'ran says nothing whatsoever about female/female love, and everything you've posted so far is just your own narrow bigotry? Thanks, that's what I figured.