Is Jesus God?

[katiemygirl]

They are one God, but each one has the title of "God." I can be referring to any one of them as "God" when speaking of them individually, or I can be referring to all three of them as "God" when speaking of them collectively.

What does the title God mean?

 

[The Real Milk Man]

"Yahweh, He is God; there is no other besides Him." Deuteronomy 4:35

"Yahweh, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other." Deuteronomy 4:39

He shall stand, and shall shepherd in the strength of Yahweh, in the majesty of the name of Yahweh his God: and they will live, for then he will be great to the ends of the earth. -- Micah 5:4


Psalm 40:6-8
John 20:17
Rev. 3:12

 

[Domenic]

They are physically separate and distinct from one another, but are perfectly united as "one" in will, purpose, mind and heart. Any of the three can be referred to as "God" individually. The three can also be referred to collectively as "God."

Yes. Because together, they constitute the "Godhead" (most dictionaries show "God" as a synonym for "Godhead), it would be impossible to worship one of them and not the others.

All three are.

Jesus Christ himself said that the Father is greater than He. He said that the Father sent Him and that He does the will of the Father. He also said that only the Father knows the date of His Second Coming. So, I believe the Son will always consider himself subordinate to the Father. In terms of what makes them divine, they are equal. In other words, the Father is no more "godly" than the Son.

I never have yet.

DITTO.

This is 100% what the Bible says. Many Christian religions claim they are the same person, and that is wrong.
Jesus even said; "Do not pray to me, but to the father through me."

 

[Katzpur]

What does the title God mean?

To me it means, "the perfect and all-powerful entity that is worshipped by Christians, as the one who created and rules the universe." What does it mean to you?

 

[katiemygirl]

To me it means, "the perfect and all-powerful entity that is worshipped by Christians, as the one who created and rules the universe." What does it mean to you?

It's a title which describes who He is. The Bible is filled with numerous verses describing Him. All powerful, all knowing, immutable, eternal, everywhere, sovereign, infinite, mighty, one, almighty one, and so on.

 

[Awoon]

It's a title which describes who He is. The Bible is filled with numerous verses describing Him. All powerful, all knowing, immutable, eternal, everywhere, sovereign, infinite, mighty, one, almighty one, and so on.

So the above would make everyone God with a mask on.

 

[Kolibri]

So the above would make everyone God with a mask on.

If you believe that a part of us is immortal, and that we are all interconnected into one extended life-form.

I for one am not almighty. I do not have within myself enough energy to create the entire physical heavens with plenty to spare.

 

[Katzpur]

It's a title which describes who He is. The Bible is filled with numerous verses describing Him. All powerful, all knowing, immutable, eternal, everywhere, sovereign, infinite, mighty, one, almighty one, and so on.

I think that's a very good definition. I don't disagree with a word of it.

 

[Awoon]

If you believe that a part of us is immortal, and that we are all interconnected into one extended life-form.

I for one am not almighty. I do not have within myself enough energy to create the entire physical heavens with plenty to spare.

You didn't read the definition of God in the post above mine did you? Did you miss the word "everywhere?"

 

[Kolibri]

You didn't read the definition of God in the post above mine did you? Did you miss the word "everywhere?"

I caught it, but the Almighty God is not omnipresent.

"the heavens, your dwelling place," - 1 Kings 8:49

"Now I am leaving the world and going my way to the Father." - John 16:28b

"For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, so that he now appears before (Lit., "before the face of.") God on our behalf." - Hebrews 9: 24

Jehovah has a place to live. He is not "everywhere". He is omniscient. But that is different.

 

[Awoon]

I caught it, but the Almighty God is not omnipresent.

"the heavens, your dwelling place," - 1 Kings 8:49

"Now I am leaving the world and going my way to the Father." - John 16:28b

"For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, so that he now appears before (Lit., "before the face of.") God on our behalf." - Hebrews 9: 24

Jehovah has a place to live. He is not "everywhere". He is omniscient. But that is different.

Where isn't the "heavens?"

 

[Kolibri]

Where isn't the "heavens?"

Not the earth. If that was the case, why would Jesus need to return to the heavens if the heavens were right here?

 

[Awoon]

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Not the earth. If that was the case, why would Jesus need to return to the heavens if the heavens were right here?

The Earth is in the Heavens. The heavens are everywhere, God is everywhere. Hence you are a mask for God. You really don't exist. Go outside and look up.

 

[Muffled]

I'm interested in hearing thoughts about (1) Where this idea comes from and (2) If you agree with it and why/why not. I have heard it described like this: Because of the Trinity, Jesus is God, and all the things done in the Old Testament were therefore done by Jesus prior to his human incarnation. Thoughts?

I believe the Biblical record ensures that a person reading and understanding will reach that conclusion.

I agree and I believe the most convincing passage is "I and my Father are one."

I believe this is the cart before the horse. I believe the Trinity emerges from the fact that Jesus and the Paraclete are God also.

I believe Jesus would not be Jesus before the incarnation so it is the Spirit of God who does everything in the OT.

 

[Muffled]

Lets face it, how on earth could a mere man be god, all that is, it is nothing but ridiculers thinking, this is my opinion.

I believe you are correct a mere man can't be God but God can be a mere man.

 

[Muffled]

What I see is Jesus not saying he was God, but he was one with God, or the father. He said he can do nothing without the father, so all that Jesus did, was not of his doing but the father.

Now I see this with us also, we when we are one with the father, we are declaring God within, we are not God as the carnal mind even though we are, its the carnal mind that separates us, which is delusional.

When we are mature in Spirit, we live, yet we don't live, for now we live in Christ, we are now declaring the Christ within, the same as Jesus declaring the Father within.

I believe it is not the same with the Paraclete as it is with Jesus. We have a spirit of our own and it has enough ego to want to run its own life and we simply allow God to run our life when we feel we need help.

 

[Katzpur]

I'm interested in hearing thoughts about (1) Where this idea comes from and (2) If you agree with it and why/why not. I have heard it described like this: Because of the Trinity, Jesus is God, and all the things done in the Old Testament were therefore done by Jesus prior to his human incarnation. Thoughts?

I believe that Jesus is God, but that He is not the same individual as God the Father. As He said in the Bible, the Father is also His God. There are many reasons why I believe Him to be God. First of all, "God" is a title. It can be used to refer to more than one person. John 1:1 says that in the beginning, "the Word" (understood by virtually all Christians to be Jesus Christ) is "God." I don't see that it could be much more clear about the matter. It also says that the Word was "with God." That implies a second individual, whom I believe to be God the Father. The Bible also says that Jesus Christ is the Creator of our universe, but it says that He created it under His Father's direction.

You will find very few Christians who believe that all the things done in the Old Testament were therefore done by Jesus prior to His human incarnation. As far as I know, the only Christian denomination that teaches this is Mormonism. As a Mormon, this is what I believe. Just as a clarification, we generally refer to God the Father as "God" or as "Elohim." We generally refer to Jesus Christ as "the Lord" or -- if we are speaking of His pre-mortal role as seen in the Old Testament -- as "Jehovah."

 

[Nada]

I believe that Jesus is God, but that He is not the same individual as God the Father. As He said in the Bible, the Father is also His God. There are many reasons why I believe Him to be God. First of all, "God" is a title. It can be used to refer to more than one person. John 1:1 says that in the beginning, "the Word" (understood by virtually all Christians to be Jesus Christ) is "God." I don't see that it could be much more clear about the matter. It also says that the Word was "with God." That implies a second individual, whom I believe to be God the Father. The Bible also says that Jesus Christ is the Creator of our universe, but it says that He created it under His Father's direction.

You will find very few Christians who believe that all the things done in the Old Testament were therefore done by Jesus prior to His human incarnation. As far as I know, the only Christian denomination that teaches this is Mormonism. As a Mormon, this is what I believe. Just as a clarification, we generally refer to God the Father as "God" or as "Elohim." We generally refer to Jesus Christ as "the Lord" or -- if we are speaking of His pre-mortal role as seen in the Old Testament -- as "Jehovah."

Jesus and Jehovah God the Almighty are two separate entities,not one.

 

[Awoon]

What does the title God mean?

Self Existing Principle.

 

[Katzpur]

Jesus and Jehovah God the Almighty are two separate entities,not one.

You clearly misunderstood me. That often happens when you have a pre-conceived idea of what someone believes. You read into their posts what you think they're saying instead of reading what they're really saying.