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Is living a gay/lesbian lifestyle a problem with God?

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Big_TJ

Active Member
Primordial Annihilator said:
Only because of bigots like yourself :rolleyes:

Its the bigots that are the problem not the parents...

;)
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Say whatever you want about me; doesnt make a difference. :no:

It is sad that instead of attacking/responding to my statement, you resort to personal attack. Whether it is as a result of bigots or act of gods, the fact still remains that this is what the reality of the situation is.:yes:
 
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kylixguru

Well-Known Member
Proud 2B Gay said:
I know Paul was against it, but he was wrong about it, meaning he could be wrong about homosexuals period. Is Paul the mouthpiece of God? Did he believe he was?
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Paul was privileged to behold divine visions and was personally ministered to by the Savior. I find his ability to penetrate the hidden meanings of things in the Law amazing. I consider Paul to be among the most profound of all the mouthpieces of the Lord.
 
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kylixguru

Well-Known Member
Proud 2B Gay said:
Read my above statement to Ben. Also, what I mean by Paganism, is those other indegenous religions, such as Kemetic, that Jews called "Pagan". I don't mean types of Christianity. There are lots of gay Christians too.
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Ok, thank you for clarifying. However, I still don't see the basis you are using to pin this down to any flavor of Paganism. No worries though.

Have a nice day!
 
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Big_TJ

Active Member
Autodidact said:
Sounds like there's not a problem with same-sex parenting, but with prejudice against same-sex parenting. I agree that can be a problem. Of course, just because kids are going to get teased is no reason for their parents not to have them, or at various times Jews, African-Americans, and various other kinds of people would have to be excluded. I don't think other people's irrational prejudice should be a reason for me not to do something. I think other people, and their children, need to learn enough courtesy to respect families that are different from their own.


OTOH, experiencing and dealing with other people's prejudice may also be beneficial. This is what the outcomes seem to say.

btw, I have 3 kids; the oldest is 22, and none of them have suffered much grief over this. It's not such a big deal as it once was.
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I agree with most of your post; you make perfect sense (as usual:yes:). If i were to have my say though, i would oppose homosexuals being parents. Not because they are homosexual, but mainly because of the expected effect that the child/children can endure. Perhaps this is more predominant in other society than others, but it would be a big NO NO in my (homophobic) society.
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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Ben Masada said:
I, for one, do not believe that Paul was a mouthpiece of God, although he did believe he was. But don't forget what Jesus said in John 17:17, that the Word of God is the Truth. When he said that, the NT did not exist. Therefore, he referred to the Hebrew Scriptures. And I am sure you are aware of what the Scriptures says about Homosexuality.
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1. No, what do they say about lesbianism? Oh wait, absolutely nothing.
2. So modern Christians abide by the ancient Hebrew purity codes?
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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Big_TJ said:
I agree with most of your post; you make perfect sense (as usual:yes:). If i were to have my say though, i would oppose homosexuals being parents. Not because they are homosexual, but mainly because of the expected effect that the child/children can endure. Perhaps this is more predominant in other society than others, but it would be a big NO NO in my (homophobic) society.
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My youngest child was removed from her irresponsible heterosexual parents because they could not properly care for her. Should I have left her to grow up in foster care?

Does your position apply also to Jews, mixed race couples, fat people, and anyone else who fails to conform to societal norms? Wouldn't it be better to encourage people to accept all kinds of families?
 
Primordial Annihilator

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
Big_TJ said:
It is sad that instead of attacking/responding to my statement, you resort to personal attack. Whether it is as a result of bigots or act of gods, the fact still remains that this is what the reality of the situation is.:yes:
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Not as sad as persecuting others due to sexual repression or confusion.
 
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Big_TJ

Active Member
Primordial Annihilator said:
Not as sad as persecuting others due to sexual repression or confusion.
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Are you a Retard???? I am not persecuting anyone; i was asked (by you!) to give my opinion as to why i though homosexuals should not be allowed to raise children. I politely outlined my view(s), to which you politely responded initially. Maybe you sshould go take your pill, then we can continue having a sane conversation again.
 
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Big_TJ

Active Member
;)
Autodidact said:
My youngest child was removed from her irresponsible heterosexual parents because they could not properly care for her. Should I have left her to grow up in foster care?
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No I dont, but again, the psychological damage that your child "may" have gone through could be just as dangerous as she living with her irresponsible hetrosexual parent. Again, i think that different society view this differently, so while your 3 kids did well, it would most likely not be so in some other societies.

Does your position apply also to Jews, mixed race couples, fat people, and anyone else who fails to conform to societal norms? Wouldn't it be better to encourage people to accept all kinds of families?
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honestly, a "No" is a perfect answer to all those questions
 
Primordial Annihilator

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
Big_TJ said:
Are you a Retard???? I am not persecuting anyone; i was asked (by you!) to give my opinion as to why i though homosexuals should not be allowed to raise children. I politely outlined my view(s), to which you politely responded initially. Maybe you sshould go take your pill, then we can continue having a sane conversation again.
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Easy tiger.

Grrr
 
Rainbow Mage

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Primordial Annihilator said:
Sorry homosexuality is quite usual and has been usual since the human species existed...if it wasnt natural...it wouldnt happen.
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:clap

Not to mention that people always bring the silliest arguments as to why it isn't natural, like the can't procreate argument.

1) No one ever designated sex as being strictly for procreation. My gods didn't, and that's all I care about.

2) Infertile people also can't procreate, so let's call infertility unnatural while we're at it.
 
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