Is MAGA-ism a Religion?

[crossfire]

We could order MAGA hats but they'd be blue.

The Blue MAGAs.

In Tibetan magic, blue magic is transforming anger into Great Mirror Wisdom.

 

[Madsaac]

Perhaps it's just me, but what I know about what makes a religion (and what I know seems unable to unmake it) suggests that the devotion to Donald Trump (not to a party, not to a platform, not to an ideology) constitutes a religion. As I think all personality cults do.

Some observations:

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All Christians routinely ignore some horrifying stories from the Bible, and yet accept them as part of their devotions.​

All MAGAs routinely ignore many horrifying stories about Trump, yet accept him as the focus of their devotions.​

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The vast majority of senior Trump supporters were implacably opposed to him at first, ran against him claiming he was so wrong for the party -- and then wound up supporting him, often completely contradicting their previous positions in the process.​

The vast majority of Christ's supporters were originally the Romans and other polytheists of the ancient world. Those who Jesus arose from (Jews) reject him as "divine" even today.​

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Probably not but the gist of your post is valid

 

[LuisDantas]

Is MAGA bashing a religion? If so it even has disciples in Canada.

MAGA bashing is essentially a civic duty. Everywhere.

To think otherwise is to be, at the very least, seriously naive.

 

[LuisDantas]

(...) I view unholy as a righteous predilection.

May you elaborate?

 

[LuisDantas]

In Tibetan magic, blue magic is transforming anger into Great Mirror Wisdom.

The anger, at least, will be plentiful.

 

[crossfire]

We could order MAGA hats but they'd be blue.

The Blue MAGAs.

Make America Grok Again

 

[Yerda]

MAGA bashing is essentially a civic duty. Everywhere.

To think otherwise is to be, at the very least, seriously naive.

Also worth noting that the filth backing maga are also flooding the rest of the world with funding for far right parties, soaking the internet with lies, misinformation and racist fear-mongering. It's a worldwide coalition of the ****-you-buddys pivoting on racism and paranoia to get their own way. Maga is just on particularly vile head of the serpent.

 

[Shaul]

MAGA bashing is essentially a civic duty. Everywhere.

To think otherwise is to be, at the very least, seriously naive.

Resorting to name calling is a sure sign of losing the argument.

 

[Quintessence]

Being religious (strongly devoted to something) is not the same as religion (a comprehensive way of life that addresses existential questions of life and meaning).

Devotion to an individual human could be religious. But it would not be religion. Not without all the things put in parenthesis - party, platform, ideology, and more - that we are supposed to discount in evaluating this per the OP.

 

[LuisDantas]

Resorting to name calling is a sure sign of losing the argument.

Argument?

There is no argument here, good person.

There is only a choice between condoning degeneration or challenging it.

 

[I Am Hugh]

I define religion as a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance. Politics, whether MAGA or Woke, or any other, is religion.

 

[ratiocinator]

Perhaps it's just me, but what I know about what makes a religion (and what I know seems unable to unmake it) suggests that the devotion to Donald Trump (not to a party, not to a platform, not to an ideology) constitutes a religion. As I think all personality cults do.

Some observations:

​

All Christians routinely ignore some horrifying stories from the Bible, and yet accept them as part of their devotions.​

All MAGAs routinely ignore many horrifying stories about Trump, yet accept him as the focus of their devotions.​

​

The vast majority of senior Trump supporters were implacably opposed to him at first, ran against him claiming he was so wrong for the party -- and then wound up supporting him, often completely contradicting their previous positions in the process.​

The vast majority of Christ's supporters were originally the Romans and other polytheists of the ancient world. Those who Jesus arose from (Jews) reject him as "divine" even today.​

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I've heard more than one Republican say that their (sometimes former) party has become a cult.

As far as I can see, that's exactly right. Trump's followers seem to be perfectly willing to accept any nonsense or conspiracy theory if Trump or one of his disciples says it's true.....

 

[Revoltingest]

Magas revere Trump as sent by God, serving God, & now saved by God.
This isn't really a religion, but it's become a Christian sect.

 

[Magic Man]

Hardly. This sound more like faith bashing. All historical events have horrifying stories. We can use history as a time of meditation and learning

The difference is when we study history, it's not part of a sacred text that is supposed to guide our spiritual journey and inform our views of morality. The point about ignoring some horrifying stories in the Bible is that the Bible is meant to be the infallible word of God, and the stories comment on God and his nature.

 

[Kenny]

The difference is when we study history, it's not part of a sacred text that is supposed to guide our spiritual journey and inform our views of morality. The point about ignoring some horrifying stories in the Bible is that the Bible is meant to be the infallible word of God, and the stories comment on God and his nature.

And it is the word of God. That is why it is honest when they are horrifying accounts. Regular people sanitize their history

 

[Viker]

^Diabolist.

May you elaborate?

 

[ratiocinator]

And it is the word of God. That is why it is honest when they are horrifying accounts. Regular people sanitize their history

So your God really is honesty okay with slavery and orders genocide?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I believe that words lose value when they lose specificity.

MLK and Trump have precious little in common. MAGA is a cult; calling it a religion is simply unhelpful and serves only to debase the term.

 

[Tomef]

Perhaps it's just me, but what I know about what makes a religion (and what I know seems unable to unmake it) suggests that the devotion to Donald Trump (not to a party, not to a platform, not to an ideology) constitutes a religion. As I think all personality cults do.

Some observations:

​

All Christians routinely ignore some horrifying stories from the Bible, and yet accept them as part of their devotions.​

All MAGAs routinely ignore many horrifying stories about Trump, yet accept him as the focus of their devotions.​

​

The vast majority of senior Trump supporters were implacably opposed to him at first, ran against him claiming he was so wrong for the party -- and then wound up supporting him, often completely contradicting their previous positions in the process.​

The vast majority of Christ's supporters were originally the Romans and other polytheists of the ancient world. Those who Jesus arose from (Jews) reject him as "divine" even today.​

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It seems like a grasping for something. Some sort of a desperate need for a story to cling to. I think perhaps MAGA-ites struggle to find any sense of relevance in a world that doesn’t accept their notions about the world as unquestionable truths.

 

[Magic Man]

And it is the word of God. That is why it is honest when they are horrifying accounts. Regular people sanitize their history

That's the problem. It's the word of God, and yet it contradicts itself and makes God look like a truly horrifically bad entity, while teaching some terrible morality.