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Is masturbation wrong?

ninerbuff

godless wonder
well i hate to be the one to point this out, but the release of hormones is all about reproduction

perhaps this explains why God wants the man and woman together and encourages such relationships
I will disagree. Release of hormones has many functions, such as growth (such as in growth hormone and testosterone to anabolically build muscle). So change the blanket statement.
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
Yeah, I know and I agree that Onan's sin was not about masturbations. I have argued this with several people. However, there are several Jewish websites claim that Onan was were the masturbation prohibition came from. Jewfaq for one. A number of modern day chassidim also claim this to against Jewish law.

I know.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
 
Hi! Although the term “masturbation” does not occur in the Bible, can there be any doubt that it is a mentally and emotionally defiling practice? The apostle Paul’s admonished to “cleanse ourselves of every defilement of flesh and spirit” and “deaden [our] body members that are upon the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire, and covetousness.”—2*Cor. 7:1; Col. 3:5. Masturbation is a form of uncleanness. It can make you a ‘slave to various desires and pleasures,’ and it fosters attitudes that can be mentally corrupting. (Titus 3:3)
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Hi! Although the term “masturbation” does not occur in the Bible, can there be any doubt that it is a mentally and emotionally defiling practice? The apostle Paul’s admonished to “cleanse ourselves of every defilement of flesh and spirit” and “deaden [our] body members that are upon the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire, and covetousness.”—2*Cor. 7:1; Col. 3:5. Masturbation is a form of uncleanness. It can make you a ‘slave to various desires and pleasures,’ and it fosters attitudes that can be mentally corrupting. (Titus 3:3)

:facepalm:

we are sexual beings...get used to it.

paul also says not to have sex with your married partner because the end is near... go figure
 

diosangpastol

Dios - ang - Pastol
Frankly speaking, most men (and women), if not all, masturbate — especially those without sexual partners. Even those with sexual partners, like husbands and wife do masturbate also, when situations do not allow them to have sexual intercourse; like when a woman is with her ‘monthly visit’ or pregnant and about to deliver her baby. In a clinic, a man is required by a doctor to masturbate when having a physical check up and evaluation in his capacity to bear children.

In the Biblical sense of righteousness, these situations can not be considered as sin. If a married man or woman, a bachelor, or a spinster, do masturbate to refrain from doing evil or infidelity to his or her partner, are you going to consider it a sin?

1 Corinthians 7:29; 31) “But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none…”

but for you as a teenager God Says

1Co 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

Scientifically, there are benefits of regular, and not overindulging,in masturbation. In recent study, researchers say that They found those who had ejaculated the most between the ages of 20 and 50 were the least likely to develop the cancer. They say that men who ejaculated more than five times a week were a third less likely to develop prostate cancer later in life. (BBC NEWS | Health | Masturbation 'cuts cancer risk')

I do not recommend masturbation to anybody, neither do I encourage anybody to make it a scapegoat of their immoral sexual addictions, but I will not judge nor condemn anybody that because of force of circumstances, and not with evil mind, is doing the act. God judges according to the intents of the heart!
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
Hi! Although the term “masturbation” does not occur in the Bible, can there be any doubt that it is a mentally and emotionally defiling practice? The apostle Paul’s admonished to “cleanse ourselves of every defilement of flesh and spirit” and “deaden [our] body members that are upon the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire, and covetousness.”—2*Cor. 7:1; Col. 3:5. Masturbation is a form of uncleanness. It can make you a ‘slave to various desires and pleasures,’ and it fosters attitudes that can be mentally corrupting. (Titus 3:3)

I doubt it. I doubt it a lot. When I was a teenager, I doubted it several times a day.
 

EverChanging

Well-Known Member
I never had any problem masturbating without fantasies. I still don't see the problem with the fantasies, though. It seems much more healthy to me than a lot of porn out there, especially if one is likely to become addicted to that type of imagery.

Paul said that if one feels the need to be sexually active, then find a mate and marry because that is better then committing fornication and breaking Gods laws.
That's a really stupid reason to get married. A married needs to be based on much more than sexual release to keep it stable, fulfilling and life-long (or at least long-term).
 

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
imo, whatever God tells us is appropriate is appropriate, whatever he tells us is inappropriate is inappropriate.

You mean the Bible tells you what is appropriate and what isnt, at least you interpret that..(unless of course you claim to talk to God directly about the subject of Madame Palm and her five lovely daughters)..but I have something shocking to reveal to you, the bible is not God.

It is the work of man.

Of course thats another debate entirely I suppose...if you think a work of man reflects the absolute truth of God or not.

In which case if you do...then you are fundamentalist...which means you are in all probability not thinking logically..because your assumptions about masterbation and God's feelings on the subject are merely a hypothesis accepted as fact via faith...not faith in God...faith in the empiricality of the Bible.

Peace!
 
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waitasec

Veteran Member
imo, whatever God tells us is appropriate is appropriate, whatever he tells us is inappropriate is inappropriate.

so do you disappear for 10 days or so when you're on your period...? according to god, that's appropriate...
 

Blackheart

Active Member
Sexual appetite is only percieved to be a bad thing if you are sexually repressed.

There is nothing wrong with having sex either...the sooner you christians realise that the sooner you stop repressing others and corrupting their minds.

For this 'you' are guilty and should be sanctioned appropriately.

Do I have to tell you what damage the 'sexually pure' priesthood of the church has done to thousands of little boys over the centuries..?

Obviously the priests you are refering to are not sexually pure. I think you inadvertantly made a point there. (Not sure where you get the thousands from though, you sound like an evolutionist)
 

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
Obviously the priests you are refering to are not sexually pure. I think you inadvertantly made a point there. (Not sure where you get the thousands from though, you sound like an evolutionist)

No the point I was deliberately making was that sexual abstinence is a form of sexual repression..its most literal form in fact...this is not healthy nor natural for most people, especially men.

Of course I am an 'evolutionist'.

Did I say 1000's?

I meant tens of thousands...

Interestingly the lowest age of sexual consent in europe is the Vatican city...at 12 years old for girls.
It also has the highest crime rate per capita in europe.
 
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Nooj

none
I never had any problem masturbating without fantasies. I still don't see the problem with the fantasies, though. It seems much more healthy to me than a lot of porn out there, especially if one is likely to become addicted to that type of imagery.
What if it's a fantasy that involves harming people, like rape or somesuch?

In case anyone wanted to know, here's what the Catholic Church says about it:
2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action." "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved." -Catechism of the Catholic Church
 

EverChanging

Well-Known Member
What if it's a fantasy that involves harming people, like rape or somesuch?

I meant fantasies in general are okay, but I think fantasies like rape can become a harmful obsession or fetish at least for some people. At any rate, I don't think most people who fantasize while masturbating are hurting anyone.
 
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