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Is not raising minimum wage racist?

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
I'm thinking if we really want to help folks, this country needs jobs that pay more than minimum wage.

Raising minimum wage is a bandaid not a working solution.

I think we need both...so this means we're going to have to redirect some wasteful spending and use it to help Americans....
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
This is the thing, I don't care if you raise minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour it will not solve income inequality in our country.

You can't have a middle class of minimum wage workers.

When was minimum wage ever a living wage?
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
This is the thing, I don't care if you raise minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour it will not solve income inequality in our country.

You can't have a middle class of minimum wage workers.

When was minimum wage ever a living wage?

Who said it will?
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
This is the thing, I don't care if you raise minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour it will not solve income inequality in our country.

You can't have a middle class of minimum wage workers.

When was minimum wage ever a living wage?

You're speaking normatively, but that is already the reality.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Decades ago. You experienced it. Now you're against it.
When I first started working minimum wage was 1.65 an hour and was hardly a living wage.

At no time in America could you ever call minimum wage a living wage.

Perhaps that is the issue, believing it ever was high enough to live on.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
I clearly remember thinking back then if I could make 100 dollars a week I would be making 2.50 an hour and might be able to make it.

A year or two later I found a job in a factory making 3.35 an hour and could call it gainful employment.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
I worked 52 hours a week and brought home 165 dollars.

I drove a new car and motorcycle and had a very nice apartment on twice minimum wage and 12 hours overtime each week.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Nice apartment back then had air conditioning, one bedroom and bath and a dishwasher no laundry. Oh yeah, it had new carpet. Good thing, I had no furniture.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I remember working for $1.10/hour.
It wasn't bad for an elementary school kid.
(I picked apples.)
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
When I first started working minimum wage was 1.65 an hour and was hardly a living wage.

At no time in America could you ever call minimum wage a living wage.

Perhaps that is the issue, believing it ever was high enough to live on.

I remember working for $1.10/hour.
It wasn't bad for an elementary school kid.
(I picked apples.)

Minimum wage is a ratio to cost. How much did everything cost back then. Minimum wage was raised to 7.25 in 2009. 5 years later CPI has increased 10%. Just to equal cost increase Minimum wage should be $7.97.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Bob my point is, even 4 decades ago minimum wage was just about half a living wage.

Rev picked apples for about a buck an hour as a kid.

He developed a work ethic that took him far.

People in their 20's want a living wage from a menial job and will deprive children of that first job by raising wages.

Wake up people, you can't live on a minimum wage job. Never have never will.
 

Jeremy Mason

Well-Known Member
The question to people who either want to keep the minimum wage the same or abolish it, must ask themselves if they like paying minimum wage employers the difference in their employees' living expenses? Because that's what's going on folks. Walmart and McDonalds are"lovin' it!"
 
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Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
The problem is 20 something's have no bridge jobs to get out of menial kiddie jobs.


That is the problem not the minimum wage rate.
 

Nymphs

Well-Known Member
I was watching PMSNBC yesterday, the Ed show particularly and the host said not raising the minimum wage was racist.

What do you all think?

Not racist, but dumb if you don't do it. The standard of living has risen dramatically, people really cannot live off of $9.00 an hour any longer.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Bob my point is, even 4 decades ago minimum wage was just about half a living wage.

Rev picked apples for about a buck an hour as a kid.

He developed a work ethic that took him far.

People in their 20's want a living wage from a menial job and will deprive children of that first job by raising wages.

Wake up people, you can't live on a minimum wage job. Never have never will.

Why and what minimum wage is.

The national minimum wage was created by Congress under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) in 1938. Congress enacted this legislation under its Constitutional grant of authority to regulate interstate commerce. FLSA was a comprehensive federal scheme which provided for minimum wages, overtime pay, record keeping requirements, and child labor regulations. The purpose of the minimum wage was to stabilize the post-depression economy and protect the workers in the labor force. The minimum wage was designed to create a minimum standard of living to protect the health and well-being of employees. Others have argued that the primary purpose was to aid the lowest paid of the nation's working population, those who lacked sufficient bargaining power to secure for themselves a minimum subsistence wage. FLSA specifically provided for a minimum wage for full time and part time, public and private sector workers. Specifically, workers who are “engaged in” or “in the production of goods for” interstate (commerce between the states) and foreign commerce.

If that is what it is for it should adjust with standard of living. If you don't like it elect people to get rid of it.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I just elect people who vote against raising it

Then you shall always have a problem as it was created to be a standard of living. What should it be. Cost of living constantly goes up do we ever adjust it or does it just stay the same. Why is 7.25 the proper value, what makes it so.
 
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