Is Peace on Earth Really God's Goal????

[Bird123]

In a box? But if it is going up in heaven, why not?

The verses are not mine, its from the Bible. Will the world end? Yes it would - even scientists are frantically looking up in space for an extinction level event. It has a beginning, then it has an end - nothing created last forever. Not even diamonds which has a melting point of 3,550 degrees Celsius.


2 Peter 3:11-13 New International Version (NIV)

Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

and that is the real world peace.

People have been preaching the end of the world since the beginning of time. More exists beyond holy books and beyond what lives on the surface of your view. You can choose to be content in a box of beliefs thinking that in just a bit all your troubles will be over for eternity, however at some point you will meet up with Reality.

One who searches for discovery will find more than one content on what they already believe. One will discover those beliefs which are not true.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

And you call this God? Where is the Intelligence in those actions? I see only Mankind.

I think we all see only Mankind.
If rightly committed, Mankind that is in jail used their ' intelligence to create the actions ' that put them in jail.
If God would Not have executed the violent people of Noah's day, then No one righteous would have been left on Earth. God's purpose is that only righteous people inherit the Earth - Matthew 25:37.
So, in God's intelligence He will only allow righteous people to gain everlasting life on Earth.
That is why we are given two (2) choices: ' repent ' or 'perish' ( be destroyed ) according to 2 Peter 3:9.
The choices are given so if we do Not want to be destroyed forever with the wicked, then repent - Psalms 92:7.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

People have been preaching the end of the world since the beginning of time. More exists beyond holy books and beyond what lives on the surface of your view. You can choose to be content in a box of beliefs thinking that in just a bit all your troubles will be over for eternity, however at some point you will meet up with Reality.
One who searches for discovery will find more than one content on what they already believe. One will discover those beliefs which are not true.

I can agree that the one who searches for discovery will find more..... including 'religious' beliefs which are Not true.
The people of Acts of the Apostles 17:11 searched or researched the Scriptures daily to see if what they were hearing, what they were learning, was really what the Bible really teaches.

According to Jesus' teachings he taught more exists beyond the old Hebrew Scriptures and what lives on the surface.
For example: I have found that when people hear about the ' end of the world ' they equate that with the end of Earth.
When we are living in the last days of badness on Earth. The end of a world of badness, Not the Earth, before Jesus begins his 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth. Earth will be as described at chapter 35 of Isaiah.

What is unique about our day (since the beginning of time) is that never before in history has the good news about God's kingdom government of Daniel 2:44 been proclaimed on such a vast-international global scale as it is rapidly being done earth-wide today, just as it is brought out at Matthew 24:14 and Acts of the Apostles 1:8.

 

[Bird123]

I think we all see only Mankind.
If rightly committed, Mankind that is in jail used their ' intelligence to create the actions ' that put them in jail.
If God would Not have executed the violent people of Noah's day, then No one righteous would have been left on Earth. God's purpose is that only righteous people inherit the Earth - Matthew 25:37.
So, in God's intelligence He will only allow righteous people to gain everlasting life on Earth.
That is why we are given two (2) choices: ' repent ' or 'perish' ( be destroyed ) according to 2 Peter 3:9.
The choices are given so if we do Not want to be destroyed forever with the wicked, then repent - Psalms 92:7.

Do you live your truth by mere stories? Let's take a few steps back and analyze your story. If what you say is true, That would make God a Monster. Not only would your God be as bad as the wicked, he would be too weak to solve the problem of the wicked.

Any God capable of creating this universe has to have more intelligence than I can't fix it so I'll destroy it. Give me a Break. If one really wants truth, Thinking is required. Following blindly leads away from the truth and the Real God. That's how I see it regardless of any feelings. God has to be a Thinking God not just the feelings of what people want God to be.

 

[Bird123]

I can agree that the one who searches for discovery will find more..... including 'religious' beliefs which are Not true.
The people of Acts of the Apostles 17:11 searched or researched the Scriptures daily to see if what they were hearing, what they were learning, was really what the Bible really teaches.

According to Jesus' teachings he taught more exists beyond the old Hebrew Scriptures and what lives on the surface.
For example: I have found that when people hear about the ' end of the world ' they equate that with the end of Earth.
When we are living in the last days of badness on Earth. The end of a world of badness, Not the Earth, before Jesus begins his 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth. Earth will be as described at chapter 35 of Isaiah.

What is unique about our day (since the beginning of time) is that never before in history has the good news about God's kingdom government of Daniel 2:44 been proclaimed on such a vast-international global scale as it is rapidly being done earth-wide today, just as it is brought out at Matthew 24:14 and Acts of the Apostles 1:8.

If God wanted everyone to have a Holy Book, God would have implanted it at birth. God has never and will never do this. Why? Clearly, it is not what God wants or God would have. Actions have always spoke louder than words. Why is it everyone values those words yet ignore the Real Actions of God?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Do you live your truth by mere stories? Let's take a few steps back and analyze your story. If what you say is true, That would make God a Monster. Not only would your God be as bad as the wicked, he would be too weak to solve the problem of the wicked.
Any God capable of creating this universe has to have more intelligence than I can't fix it so I'll destroy it. Give me a Break. If one really wants truth, Thinking is required. Following blindly leads away from the truth and the Real God. That's how I see it regardless of any feelings. God has to be a Thinking God not just the feelings of what people want God to be.

To my thinking God's Golden Rule is the solution for the wicked.
The wicked do Not have to break the Golden Rule. They are Not forced to break the Golden Rule.
We are all free to act responsibly toward God's Golden Rule.
And all people are free to act responsibly toward Jesus' NEW command found at John 13:34-35 to have self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus did.

Earth abides forever according to Ecclesiastes 1:4 B, so only the wicked will be destroyed Proverbs 2:21-22.
If the willfully wicked were allowed to continue they would destroy anyone righteous, then where would the justice be for the righteous. Even imperfect people want justice for a harmed loved one.

I find Jesus' thinking did Not base his teachings on following blind. Jesus did Not teach credulity (blind faith) but faith based on logical reasoning on the old Hebrew Scriptures. Jesus taught Scripture is religious truth at John 17:17.

If God was Not a Thinking God, then God would allow the wicked to destroy the righteous.
Since, to me, God is a Thinking God, He lets us know in advance that the days for the wicked are numbered.
If we do Not want to be classed with the wicked then we need to ' repent ' so as Not to 'perish ' (be destroyed).
That brings us back to God's thinking solution that everyone needs to be following God's Golden Rule.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

If God wanted everyone to have a Holy Book, God would have implanted it at birth. God has never and will never do this. Why? Clearly, it is not what God wants or God would have. Actions have always spoke louder than words. Why is it everyone values those words yet ignore the Real Actions of God?

Perhaps if Adam was Not created with human perfection, and Adam did Not have one-on-one communication as he did with his Creator, then I could see the need to have a Holy Book implanted, etc.
However, unless damaged, we do come equipped with an in-born implanted conscience.
When our conscience is guided by God's Golden Rule then our conscience can be a reliable guide.

God's Holy Book, Holy Scripture, is for everyone. That is why to me the good news actions about God's kingdom government as mentioned at Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 is proclaimed world wide on an international scale today.
Even people in earth's remote areas now have Scripture in their own mother tongue or native language.
So, just at written the good news about God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44 is the action (speaking louder than words) which will come to pass to bring global Peace on Earth among people of goodwill.

 

[Bird123]

To my thinking God's Golden Rule is the solution for the wicked.
The wicked do Not have to break the Golden Rule. They are Not forced to break the Golden Rule.
We are all free to act responsibly toward God's Golden Rule.
And all people are free to act responsibly toward Jesus' NEW command found at John 13:34-35 to have self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus did.

Earth abides forever according to Ecclesiastes 1:4 B, so only the wicked will be destroyed Proverbs 2:21-22.
If the willfully wicked were allowed to continue they would destroy anyone righteous, then where would the justice be for the righteous. Even imperfect people want justice for a harmed loved one.

I find Jesus' thinking did Not base his teachings on following blind. Jesus did Not teach credulity (blind faith) but faith based on logical reasoning on the old Hebrew Scriptures. Jesus taught Scripture is religious truth at John 17:17.

If God was Not a Thinking God, then God would allow the wicked to destroy the righteous.
Since, to me, God is a Thinking God, He lets us know in advance that the days for the wicked are numbered.
If we do Not want to be classed with the wicked then we need to ' repent ' so as Not to 'perish ' (be destroyed).
That brings us back to God's thinking solution that everyone needs to be following God's Golden Rule.

You make assumptions that are not true then base your reality on those beliefs.

Your assumption that the wicked will destroy the righteous is not true. When one truly understands all sides, intelligence will make the right choices. That evil choice will no longer be a viable choice regardless of how many wicked people are around.

You make an assumption people really understand what the golden rule is all about. Why do people break your golden rule? They think it is to their advantage to do so. They have not learned that Unconditional Love is the only real intelligent answer. Until they have lived the lesson long enough to really Understand, they will continue to make bad choices.

You make an assumption that wicked people do not need justice. You cry for justice but doesn't justice belong to all God's children regardless of their choices? Is God so weak that God must destroy rather than fix the problem through education? I think not.

You make an assumption that there is a need to Repent. Why is there a need to Repent? What purpose does asking forgiveness serve? Aren't the Results the only thing that really counts??

Unconditional Love always does what is Best for the other. How can that include Blaming, Hating, Condemning, Coercing, Intimidating, and Destroying? Who is breaking that golden rule now?

 

[Bird123]

Perhaps if Adam was Not created with human perfection, and Adam did Not have one-on-one communication as he did with his Creator, then I could see the need to have a Holy Book implanted, etc.
However, unless damaged, we do come equipped with an in-born implanted conscience.
When our conscience is guided by God's Golden Rule then our conscience can be a reliable guide.

God's Holy Book, Holy Scripture, is for everyone. That is why to me the good news actions about God's kingdom government as mentioned at Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 is proclaimed world wide on an international scale today.
Even people in earth's remote areas now have Scripture in their own mother tongue or native language.
So, just at written the good news about God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44 is the action (speaking louder than words) which will come to pass to bring global Peace on Earth among people of goodwill.

You do not see true reality. You do not Understand what this world is really all about. All you see is what you want to see based on the corrupted view generated by a box of beliefs. Case in point: Everyone on Earth does not have a copy of your Holy Book. Many parts of the world will not allow it. Next case in point, aren't more people opting out of religion now than ever before? You might check statistics but I don't believe Christianity is the largest religion in the world today.

Real Truth has nothing to do with the numbers of believers it has. There was a time when most all people thought the world was flat. It seems flat from where I am standing, however one must value facts above beliefs in all things if one wants to live in true reality.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You make assumptions that are not true then base your reality on those beliefs.

Your assumption that the wicked will destroy the righteous is not true. When one truly understands all sides, intelligence will make the right choices. That evil choice will no longer be a viable choice regardless of how many wicked people are around.
You make an assumption people really understand what the golden rule is all about. Why do people break your golden rule? They think it is to their advantage to do so. They have not learned that Unconditional Love is the only real intelligent answer. Until they have lived the lesson long enough to really Understand, they will continue to make bad choices.
You make an assumption that wicked people do not need justice. You cry for justice but doesn't justice belong to all God's children regardless of their choices? Is God so weak that God must destroy rather than fix the problem through education? I think not.
You make an assumption that there is a need to Repent. Why is there a need to Repent? What purpose does asking forgiveness serve? Aren't the Results the only thing that really counts??
Unconditional Love always does what is Best for the other. How can that include Blaming, Hating, Condemning, Coercing, Intimidating, and Destroying? Who is breaking that golden rule now?

God to me is fixing the problem through: education.
Jesus used his 'scriptural-based education and knowledge ' on which to base his teachings.
The reason Matthew 24:14 is being proclaimed world wide today on an international scale is so that biblical education is available to everyone. Even people in remote area's of Earth can now have Scripture in their own mother tongue or native languages. So, by the proclaiming the good news about God's kingdom government is the education that warns the righteous to remain righteous, and the wicked to repent so as Not to perish (be destroyed) as 2 Peter 3:9 give the choices.
We have No need to impute bad motives to others, but since we can Not read a person's heart or innermost self that job is left up to Jesus to decide who are the figurative haughty goats or humble sheep of Matthew 25:31-33.
Jesus will carry on ' righteous warfare' according to Revelation 19:11. That means No righteous ones will be in harm's way as what happens with mankind's wars. The words from Jesus' mouth will only destroy those who are beyond repentance, beyond reform - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16, - Proverbs 2:21-22.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You do not see true reality. You do not Understand what this world is really all about. All you see is what you want to see based on the corrupted view generated by a box of beliefs. Case in point: Everyone on Earth does not have a copy of your Holy Book. Many parts of the world will not allow it. Next case in point, aren't more people opting out of religion now than ever before? You might check statistics but I don't believe Christianity is the largest religion in the world today.
Real Truth has nothing to do with the numbers of believers it has. There was a time when most all people thought the world was flat. It seems flat from where I am standing, however one must value facts above beliefs in all things if one wants to live in true reality.

I agree, Real Truth has nothing to do with the numbers of believers as Jesus brought out in Matthew chapter 7.
'Few' are on the narrow road, 'many' are on the wide road leading to destruction if they do Not repent.
In other words, it is Not a question of 'quantity', but 'quality' as in bearing good fruit as listed at Galatians 5:22-23.
Christianity would never be the largest religion in today's world, or as Jesus pointed out that his followers would be hated according to Matthew 10:22.

I also agree, that Not everyone on Earth has a Bible, after all new people are being born each day.
As far as 'parts of the world Not allowing it' does Not mean the 'word', so to speak, is Not being spread.
Do you know anyone who has Not heard of the Bible.
Due to modern technology rapid Bible translation is now possible, and remote translation offices give people access to Scripture in their own mother tongue or native languages as never before was possible.
'Word of Mouth' absolutely does get around even if Not publicly broadcasted all over the place.
Remember what happened in Hitler's Germany. 'Word of Mouth' got around although under ban.
The Christians who would Not back Hitler were also in the camps and spread the ' Word'.
God's Word (Scripture) and God's people survived and still going strong in Germany.

When Russia had tried to ban God's Word, people would travel to Finland and have a basket of eggs or something and when asked what price for the product the Christians would say that the item is Not for sale, but that free spiritual food was available ( under the product ) and thus the ' Word ' was spread even under ban.

Many, many decades ago, there was a missionary who traveled to a seeming non-Christian country.
When he got there he hailed a taxi, and the taxi driver started to tell the missionary about the Bible.
So, where it was thought there were No Christians, right on day one that missionary found one.

Also, years ago the Lighthouse keeper, who lived at the last Lighthouse nearest to Antarctica, his wife was a Christian who spread the "Word" even in that remote area of Earth.

I think we can also keep in mind that we are Not readers or judges of people's hearts.
Jesus will decide who are the figurative ' sheep ' or Not of Matthew 25:31-33. We do Not do the judging.
I find Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 is definitely Not talking about any world-wide conversion before the start of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth begins.

That ' box of beliefs ' is what is between the pages of Genesis to Revelation.
When we open that ' box of beliefs ' we find how paradise was lost in Eden, and how through Jesus mankind will see paradise regained on Earth because mankind will see the return of the Genesis ' tree of life ' on Earth as mentioned at Revelation 22:2 for the healing of earth's nations. Good times are coming !

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

What other people in the galaxy? If you are not an ancient alienist, then I'm not aware of any evidence for them, are you?

Yes! The probabilistic certainty of life on other planets is a given. The probabilistic certainty that no other intelligent life forms have ever visited this earth is also, a given. Ancient aliens is absurd, visiting aliens is absurd. That life exists on other planets in the universe is given.

We have an ear on the entire galaxy and have found nothing but 'the great silence'. We have discovered that Earth is an extremely special planet and humanity- the only sentient species in millions on that planet, is the only means we know of by which the universe can experience itself from within...

If it is 'egotistical' to recognize this privileged position, what is it to assume we are not the primary intended beneficiaries of creation? An insecurity complex?

 

[Milton Platt]

It seems most people I know pray for World Peace. They tell me that is what God wants. I don't see it.



As I see it, life is the education of God's children. So often that takes adversity, challenges, and interaction to advance the lessons. The resolution of conflict always brings education of some sort.



Having peace and having it made seems to be a default desire of most people. On the other hand, as I see it, God's goal is the education of God's children. Peace will only arrive after all the lessons are learned.

What do you think??

If a god exists in any form or fashion, how could anyone actually claim to "know" what such a being wants? You can refer to a holy book that purports to be his words or his desires, of course. But even if the book was what he "inspired" a human to write down, what if he was only shining you on? How do you firmly establish the truthfulness and the goals/desires/motivations of a deity? You cannot use a book written by a human or humans that simply says it is what it purports to be. How do you know the book was not just some grand cosmic joke on humanity? In otherwords, how do you positively verify the veracity of an omniscient, omnipotent being?????????

 

[Bird123]

God to me is fixing the problem through: education.
Jesus used his 'scriptural-based education and knowledge ' on which to base his teachings.
The reason Matthew 24:14 is being proclaimed world wide today on an international scale is so that biblical education is available to everyone. Even people in remote area's of Earth can now have Scripture in their own mother tongue or native languages. So, by the proclaiming the good news about God's kingdom government is the education that warns the righteous to remain righteous, and the wicked to repent so as Not to perish (be destroyed) as 2 Peter 3:9 give the choices.
We have No need to impute bad motives to others, but since we can Not read a person's heart or innermost self that job is left up to Jesus to decide who are the figurative haughty goats or humble sheep of Matthew 25:31-33.
Jesus will carry on ' righteous warfare' according to Revelation 19:11. That means No righteous ones will be in harm's way as what happens with mankind's wars. The words from Jesus' mouth will only destroy those who are beyond repentance, beyond reform - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16, - Proverbs 2:21-22.

You are blind to the Evil you are teaching along with what you claim is so good. You teach that God's love is conditional. You teach people to judge and condemn others generating hate. You teach people might makes right. You teach people it is ok to use threats and intimidation to get your way. You teach people Blame and Beliefs are important over all else. The list goes on. I ask again. How can this be a Higher Level or even be generated from one who is at a Higher Level? I don't see it. You are showing me mankind not God.

 

[Bird123]

I agree, Real Truth has nothing to do with the numbers of believers as Jesus brought out in Matthew chapter 7.
'Few' are on the narrow road, 'many' are on the wide road leading to destruction if they do Not repent.
In other words, it is Not a question of 'quantity', but 'quality' as in bearing good fruit as listed at Galatians 5:22-23.
Christianity would never be the largest religion in today's world, or as Jesus pointed out that his followers would be hated according to Matthew 10:22.

I also agree, that Not everyone on Earth has a Bible, after all new people are being born each day.
As far as 'parts of the world Not allowing it' does Not mean the 'word', so to speak, is Not being spread.
Do you know anyone who has Not heard of the Bible.
Due to modern technology rapid Bible translation is now possible, and remote translation offices give people access to Scripture in their own mother tongue or native languages as never before was possible.
'Word of Mouth' absolutely does get around even if Not publicly broadcasted all over the place.
Remember what happened in Hitler's Germany. 'Word of Mouth' got around although under ban.
The Christians who would Not back Hitler were also in the camps and spread the ' Word'.
God's Word (Scripture) and God's people survived and still going strong in Germany.

When Russia had tried to ban God's Word, people would travel to Finland and have a basket of eggs or something and when asked what price for the product the Christians would say that the item is Not for sale, but that free spiritual food was available ( under the product ) and thus the ' Word ' was spread even under ban.

Many, many decades ago, there was a missionary who traveled to a seeming non-Christian country.
When he got there he hailed a taxi, and the taxi driver started to tell the missionary about the Bible.
So, where it was thought there were No Christians, right on day one that missionary found one.

Also, years ago the Lighthouse keeper, who lived at the last Lighthouse nearest to Antarctica, his wife was a Christian who spread the "Word" even in that remote area of Earth.

I think we can also keep in mind that we are Not readers or judges of people's hearts.
Jesus will decide who are the figurative ' sheep ' or Not of Matthew 25:31-33. We do Not do the judging.
I find Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 is definitely Not talking about any world-wide conversion before the start of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth begins.

That ' box of beliefs ' is what is between the pages of Genesis to Revelation.
When we open that ' box of beliefs ' we find how paradise was lost in Eden, and how through Jesus mankind will see paradise regained on Earth because mankind will see the return of the Genesis ' tree of life ' on Earth as mentioned at Revelation 22:2 for the healing of earth's nations. Good times are coming !

Mankind's knowledge continues to grow generation after generation. The rate at which knowledge grows will increase the more knowledge is accumulated. Mankind will push toward facts and truth and away from beliefs and feelings. As I see it, the distant future will find religion obsolete. Of course, that will open the way to really Discover God and a Higher Level.

 

[Bird123]

If a god exists in any form or fashion, how could anyone actually claim to "know" what such a being wants? You can refer to a holy book that purports to be his words or his desires, of course. But even if the book was what he "inspired" a human to write down, what if he was only shining you on? How do you firmly establish the truthfulness and the goals/desires/motivations of a deity? You cannot use a book written by a human or humans that simply says it is what it purports to be. How do you know the book was not just some grand cosmic joke on humanity? In otherwords, how do you positively verify the veracity of an omniscient, omnipotent being?????????

Very Very Good Point and you are Right. On the other hand, maybe there is a way to Discover something.

In this time-based causal universe even God's actions can be seen. When one starts to understand why things are the way they are, one starts to understand God. Science uses such methods to study the physics and how the universe works, however even how the universe works speaks to it's creator. If you watch a person long enough, don't you really get to know them through their actions?

Just like with science, baby steps tend to lead to bigger steps, before you know it, the picture gets clearer.

As I see, religion has corrupted everyone's view. They have taught everyone to value those beliefs. What does everyone do? Everyone waits for the answers to be served up on a plate so we can decide whether to Believe or not. Is that what God wants?

If you look around at this world, we see God's action speaks differently. Acquiring Real Truth and knowledge takes Work. Why would God make it that way?? Perhaps wisdom is gained in the struggle to acquire knowledge, after all knowledge without Wisdom can be very dangerous.

With this in mind, I see that God wants us to Discover the facts. Beliefs merely exist to patch the gap of the missing facts. The Advancement reward only comes when the facts are Discovered, not the Beliefs.
Doesn't this speak partly to who God really is????

 

[Milton Platt]

Very Very Good Point and you are Right. On the other hand, maybe there is a way to Discover something.

In this time-based causal universe even God's actions can be seen. When one starts to understand why things are the way they are, one starts to understand God. Science uses such methods to study the physics and how the universe works, however even how the universe works speaks to it's creator. If you watch a person long enough, don't you really get to know them through their actions?

Just like with science, baby steps tend to lead to bigger steps, before you know it, the picture gets clearer.

As I see, religion has corrupted everyone's view. They have taught everyone to value those beliefs. What does everyone do? Everyone waits for the answers to be served up on a plate so we can decide whether to Believe or not. Is that what God wants?

If you look around at this world, we see God's action speaks differently. Acquiring Real Truth and knowledge takes Work. Why would God make it that way?? Perhaps wisdom is gained in the struggle to acquire knowledge, after all knowledge without Wisdom can be very dangerous.

With this in mind, I see that God wants us to Discover the facts. Beliefs merely exist to patch the gap of the missing facts. The Advancement reward only comes when the facts are Discovered, not the Beliefs.
Doesn't this speak partly to who God really is????

I must point out that the supernatural cannot be detected or measured. However, if the supernatural interacts with the natural, then we can at least scientifically measure the effects. so far, the results have shown no measurable presence of supernatural intervention. Therefore, the logical thing to do is assume that there is no such interaction until proven otherwise under properly controlled testing. Without such interaction, the supernatural can be treated the same as if it does not exist, even if it does because it has virtually no impact on reality. A god that does not measurably interact with our reality is the same as a non-existent god.

You say that gods actions can be seen. How do you scientifically confirm an action was caused by a deity? I see no way of doing so. Just seeing something and attributing it to a deity's actions won't do. That's merely an opinion and has no legs.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You are blind to the Evil you are teaching along with what you claim is so good. You teach that God's love is conditional. You teach people to judge and condemn others generating hate. You teach people might makes right. You teach people it is ok to use threats and intimidation to get your way. You teach people Blame and Beliefs are important over all else. The list goes on. I ask again. How can this be a Higher Level or even be generated from one who is at a Higher Level? I don't see it. You are showing me mankind not God.

To me the 'good news' of Matthew 24:14 is for everyone. Not bad news.
When we pick up the morning paper we read about the 'bad news' of men's kingdoms or governments.
When we pick up the teachings of Christ we read about the 'good news' of God's kingdom government.
Christians do Not impute bad or wrong motives to others, but proclaim the good news to everyone that God's kingdom is in the hands of Christ Jesus, with Jesus as King of God's Kingdom government, who will usher in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill. What is hate filled about that there will be healing for earth's nations according to Revelation 22:2.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Mankind's knowledge continues to grow generation after generation. The rate at which knowledge grows will increase the more knowledge is accumulated. Mankind will push toward facts and truth and away from beliefs and feelings. As I see it, the distant future will find religion obsolete. Of course, that will open the way to really Discover God and a Higher Level.

You're Not alone in seeing religion as obsolete. I find religious ' waters ' (people) are already drying up spiritually.
Besides secular knowledge growing in leaps and bounds, so is Bible knowledge in that people can quickly travel to-and-fro through the pages of Scripture as never before in history. Although the Bible is Not written ABC as a dictionary is, a comprehensive concordance opens the way to serve as a quick reference locator in finding verses on the same topic or subject thus making it possible to start to discover what the Bible really teaches, and Discover God and a Higher Level.

No need to see that 'in the distant future' man will find religion as obsolete because soon ' they ' (powers that be) will be saying, " Peace and Security " as a precursor to the time when the United Nations surprisingly turns on religion.
The U.N. already sees a hauntingly dangerous religious climate brewing in today's world, and with backing the U.N. can be strengthened to turn on trouble-causing religions. Even a bad economy can make the wealth the religions have amassed look easy for the taking. Since compromising Christendom falsely claims to follow the God of the Bible then ' house ' cleaning will start with the 'powers that be' turning first on troublesome Christendom.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

With this in mind, I see that God wants us to Discover the facts. Beliefs merely exist to patch the gap of the missing facts. The Advancement reward only comes when the facts are Discovered, not the Beliefs.
Doesn't this speak partly to who God really is????

In my mind what Jesus' taught was his beliefs. So, by discovering what Jesus' believed is discovering the facts about the Bible.
Jesus used logical reasoning on the old Hebrew Scriptures as the basis for his beliefs, his teachings.
That means to me, that Jesus did Not believe in credulity ( blind belief or blind faith ) but on written biblical truths.
To me, that is why Jesus' taught that Scripture is religious truth (fact) at John 17:17.
So, perhaps instead of saying ' Not the Beliefs ' in connection to advancement reward something else comes to mind.