74x12
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It seems that the meaning of "virgin" birth escapes you. You may not believe in miracles; but we obviously do.
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Is premarital sex moral or immoral?
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Bethsheba Ashe
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I hear ya, but when you say people you should have just said men, because most women don't rate one night stands or sex without emotional involvement as happy memories. Quite the opposite in fact. Studies show that it makes women feel sad. So from my point of view it seems like men are getting it all their own way and expect women to relate to them as other men would do. Maybe young men need more homosexual sex?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Typically doesn't men always. Even you accounted of a woman who was talking about having her own booty call.
Bethsheba Ashe
Member
If the young woman isn't taking sex advice from the likes of John the Revelator it shows she has good sense which is a credit to God's innate qualities within her.
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Bethsheba Ashe
Member
Yeah, but she did sound sad and kinda regretful about it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Earlier you made it out to be the opposite. As if people in general are reveling in wanton sex.
And things like friends with benefits, booty call, they aren't always random one night hook ups.
Bethsheba Ashe
Member
Yeah, people are complicated and can have a range of views and emotions that aren't necessarily integrated.
Maybe you should talk about this with the women you're hooking up with. Its a whole new sexual arena you guys are navigating and I know its not for me, but if your partners are really happy then I have nothing to say about it.
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I don't view it as a moral issue.
I'm a man who doesn't find one night stands fulfilling, and there's many women who get off on random encounters.
Sex is a dime a dozen so getting it without a relationship isn't anything special.
Bethsheba Ashe
Member
Sure. There are always exceptions to the norm and there's nothing wrong with being outside of the norm.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yup. Which is it's one of those things best leaving alone, not getting involved in, and letting people do their own thing.
I'm not a lesbian. But with sex partners, I do communicate, I do get to know them some, and for a number of reasons I don't do the random hook up thing. But I'm not going to judge those who do or insist it has to be this or that.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I meant it more in how lots of guys talk about wanting such a thing. I don't know if they really do or not, or how many actually do, but I've heard them mention it here-and-there.
Bethsheba Ashe
Member
Sure. None of my business really. I am trying to understand the youth of today a little better though so I hope you didn't mind these questions and naive observations of mine. I cannot see it working with my generation but things change.
I get it. Yes, a lot of guys do like that thing but you have to keep in mind that men tend to brag around other men to fit in and compete. They may lie about doing it or lie about enjoying it. Many men report feeling empty after hookups like women do. Hookups are linked to depression and anxiety although they're not sure which is causing the other: Casual sex linked to depression and anxiety
In my experience, many people who have a lot of casual sex/hookups have psychological issues. You often hear about them doing it to feel love or not be alone/lonely. There's a lot of this in the LGBT community, particularly among gay men and trans women.
Bethsheba Ashe
Member
Sorry I thought you were a guy btw. Its just that all the Shadows I have known have been guys.
I have a friend who has an IQ high enough to dispute facts.
She says that especially child pornography, but also pornography and adultery, cause serious damage to society.
Adultery and child porn, yes, but not legal adult porn. The only issue adult porn really causes is warping people's view of and expectations of sex. But if you keep in mind that actual sex isn't like professional porn and to keep it in its place, you should be okay.
nPeace
Veteran Member
Assume -"Scientists have developed more than a dozen methods for determining the age of fossils, human artifacts, and the sediments in which such evidence is found." Various methods have dated some human remains older than 100,000 years.
New fossils from Jebel Irhoud, Morocco and the pan-African origin of Homo sapiens
" What’s more, the methods can be tested against one another to provide a highly reliable record of the past."
" Here of some of the well-tested methods of dating used in the study of early humans:
Frequently Asked Questions
- Potassium-argon dating, Argon-argon dating, Carbon-14 (or Radiocarbon), and Uranium series. All of these methods measure the amount of radioactive decay of chemical elements; the decay occurs in a consistent manner, like a clock, over long periods of time.
- Thermo-luminescence, Optically stimulated luminescence, and Electron spin resonance. All of these methods measure the amount of electrons that get absorbed and trapped inside a rock or tooth over time.
- Paleomagnetism. This method compares the direction of the magnetic particles in layers of sediment to the known worldwide shifts in Earth’s magnetic field, which have well-established dates using other dating methods.
- Biochronology. Since animal species change over time, the fauna can be arranged from younger to older. At some sites, animal fossils can be dated precisely by one of these other methods. For sites that cannot be readily dated, the animal species found there can be compared to well-dated species from other sites. In this way, sites that do not have radioactive or other materials for dating can be given a reliable age estimate.
- Molecular clock. This method compares the amount of genetic difference between living organisms and computes an age based on well-tested rates of genetic mutation over time. Since genetic material (like DNA) decays rapidly, the molecular clock method can’t date very old fossils. It’s mainly useful for figuring out how long ago living species or populations shared a common ancestor, based on their DNA."
Based on overwhelming fossil evidence as well as genetic evidence...I don't believe, but accept as fact, there's been a significant enough gene pool alteration within a species changing over the course of many generations resulting in organisms having genetic traits different enough from their distant ancestors; so that there'd be no possible sexual reproduction occurring between somebody who were to have distant ancestral genetic traits with anybody living in the current population. There's little doubt all life forms share a common ancestor; so then, evolution is about as debatable as the Earth's ellipsoid shape.
ERVs provide the closest thing to a mathematical proof for evolution.. ERVs are the relics of ancient viral infections preserved in our DNA. The odd thing is many ERVs are located in exactly the same position on our genome and the chimpanzee genome! There are two explanations for the perfectly matched ERV locations. Either it is an unbelievable coincidence that viruses just by chance were inserted in exactly the same location in our genomes, or humans and chimps share a common ancestor. The chances that a virus was inserted at the exact same location is nearly 1 in 3,000,000,000. Humans and chimps share 7 instances of viruses inserted at perfectly matched location. It was our common ancestor that was infected, and we both inherited the ERVs.
Johnson, Welkin E.; Coffin, John M. (1999-08-31). "Constructing primate phylogenies from ancient retrovirus sequences". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 96(18): 10254–10260. Bibcode:1999PNAS...9610254J. doi:10.1073/pnas.96.18.10254. ISSN 0027-8424. PMC 17875. PMID 10468595
Take to be the case or to be true; accept without verification or proof
K–Ar dating
Potassium-Argon Dating Potassium-Argon dating is the only viable technique for dating very old archaeological materials.
Limitations on K-Ar Dating
The Potassium-Argon dating method is an invaluable tool for those archaeologists and paleoanthropologists studying the earliest evidence for human evolution. As with any dating technique, there are some significant limitations.
The technique works well for almost any igneous or volcanic rock, provided that the rock gives no evidence of having gone through a heating-recrystallization process after its initial formation. For this reason, only trained geologists should collect the samples in the field.
This technique is most useful to archaeologists and paleoanthropologists when lava flows or volcanic tuffs form strata that overlie strata bearing the evidence of human activity. Dates obtained with this method then indicate that the archaeological materials cannot be younger than the tuff or lava stratum. Because the materials dated using this method are NOT the direct result of human activity, unlike radiocarbon dates for example, it is critical that the association between the igneous/volcanic beds being dated and the strata containing human evidence is very carefully established.
As the simulation of the processing of potassium-argon samples showed, the standard deviations for K-Ar dates are so large that resolution higher than about a million years is almost impossible to achieve. By comparison, radiocarbon dates seem almost as precise as a cesium clock! Potassium-argon dating is accurate from 4.3 billion years (the age of the Earth) to about 100,000 years before the present. At 100,000 years, only 0.0053% of the potassium-40 in a rock would have decayed to argon-40, pushing the limits of present detection devices. Eventually, potassium-argon dating may be able to provide dates as recent as 20,000 years before present.
This technique is most useful to archaeologists and paleoanthropologists when lava flows or volcanic tuffs form strata that overlie strata bearing the evidence of human activity. Dates obtained with this method then indicate that the archaeological materials cannot be younger than the tuff or lava stratum. Because the materials dated using this method are NOT the direct result of human activity, unlike radiocarbon dates for example, it is critical that the association between the igneous/volcanic beds being dated and the strata containing human evidence is very carefully established.
As the simulation of the processing of potassium-argon samples showed, the standard deviations for K-Ar dates are so large that resolution higher than about a million years is almost impossible to achieve. By comparison, radiocarbon dates seem almost as precise as a cesium clock! Potassium-argon dating is accurate from 4.3 billion years (the age of the Earth) to about 100,000 years before the present. At 100,000 years, only 0.0053% of the potassium-40 in a rock would have decayed to argon-40, pushing the limits of present detection devices. Eventually, potassium-argon dating may be able to provide dates as recent as 20,000 years before present.
K–Ar dating - Wikipedia
Potassium is a common element found in many materials, such as micas, clay minerals, tephra, and evaporites. In these materials, the decay product 40Ar is able to escape the liquid (molten) rock, but starts to accumulate when the rock solidifies (recrystallizes). The amount of argon sublimation that occurs is a function of the purity of the sample, the composition of the mother material, and a number of other factors. These factors introduce error limits on the upper and lower bounds of dating, so that final determination of age is reliant on the environmental factors during formation, melting, and exposure to decreased pressure and/or open-air. Time since recrystallization is calculated by measuring the ratio of the amount of 40Ar accumulated to the amount of 40K remaining. The long half-life of 40K allows the method to be used to calculate the absolute age of samples older than a few thousand years.
Assumptions
According to McDougall & Harrison (1999, p. 11) the following assumptions must be true for computed dates to be accepted as representing the true age of the rock:
K–Ar dating - Wikipedia
... The parent nuclide, 40K, decays at a rate independent of its physical state and is not affected by differences in pressure or temperature. This is a well founded major assumption, common to all dating methods based on radioactive decay. ...
Assumptions are made regarding other assumptions about the above assumptions, as well.
The statement Potassium-Argon Dating Potassium-Argon dating is the only viable technique for dating very old archaeological materials says, there is no need to even give the other dating methods a second thought.
If it is wrong, then please give me the most accurate, which too relies heavily on assumptions.
That, I think, is the point Deeje made.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Nature does not seem to have a moral code. Children are born from all kinds of relationships that are not healthy. And they seem to suffer from the lack of stability.
Imo, The healthiest way to live is not to have sex without genuine love. Without love committed relationship, sex is cheapened. But as youth goes, people are prone to it. I was!
Its intimate, personal, and emotional. Without trust and love i find it to be a no good thing, in my experience.
Imo, The healthiest way to live is not to have sex without genuine love. Without love committed relationship, sex is cheapened. But as youth goes, people are prone to it. I was!
Its intimate, personal, and emotional. Without trust and love i find it to be a no good thing, in my experience.
nPeace
Veteran Member
So what happens when you don't like the shoes? You put them back.
I suppose that means that if one doesn't like the virgin - not shoes - with whom they enjoyed satisfying their sexual pleasures, one will, after a few weeks, months, or years, say, "See ya." and find another, virgin, and repeat the cycle - justifying a sexually immoral lifestyle, with the excuse, "No one buys a "pig in a bag".
There is a term Jamaican men love for that kind of living.
The more girls one has sex with, the better.
How can this not be immoral?
At what point does one guarantee, that they will love the girl they sexed with? I don't see how that can be right. It appears the person is not interested in love for the person, but love for sex with X.