Is "pro-birth" offensive?

[jojom]

I should have said 'gentlepersyn."

What you should have said was, "The check is in the mail."


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[9-10ths_Penguin]

If we are going for accurate: I prefer 'pro-abortion' and 'anti-abortion'. With the word 'choice' or 'rights' as implicitly attached at the end of both.

I don't think "choice" or "rights" are implicit there, and I'm not comfortable calling someone "anti-abortion" if their overall position serves to encourage more abortion (even if they condemn it).

I know you are not against late term abortion.
What I said is that you can be 'pro-choice' and yet against late term abortion.

Sorta. It's a matter of degree. It would be more pro-choice to be in favour of allowing them. How many drops of water does it take to be "wet"?

 

[Koldo]

I don't think "choice" or "rights" are implicit there, and I'm not comfortable calling someone "anti-abortion" if their overall position serves to encourage more abortion (even if they condemn it).

It is all about word usage. Like saying 'America' when the 'United States of' part is often omitted ( even though 'America' is a continent depending on the continent model used ).

Sorta. It's a matter of degree. It would be more pro-choice to be in favour of allowing them. How many drops of water does it take to be "wet"?

A lot of people just don't fit in the extremes but rather between the extremes.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It is all about word usage. Like saying 'America' when the 'United States of' part is often omitted ( even though 'America' is a continent depending on the continent model used ).

In this case, "anti-abortion" would be like calling a European "American".

A lot of people just don't fit in the extremes but rather between the extremes.

Of course. We can use qualifiers: "somewhat pro-birth", "generally pro-choice", etc. Being fully pro-choice would mean being pro-choice for all points in a pregnancy for every pregnancy.

 

[Koldo]

In this case, "anti-abortion" would be like calling a European "American".

What ? No.

Of course. We can use qualifiers: "somewhat pro-birth", "generally pro-choice", etc. Being fully pro-choice would mean being pro-choice for all points in a pregnancy for every pregnancy.

Sure. A lot of people are not 'fully' pro-choice, nor 'fully' pro-life.

 

[columbus]

Sure. A lot of people are not 'fully' pro-choice, nor 'fully' pro-life.

Nearly nobody, really. I don't think these terms are especially useful any more.
Back in the early 70s, when the battle over rights and laws was raging, they were somewhat useful shorthand. But that was over 40 years ago.
Today things are very different. RvW is the long established law and the effects on society are more clear. Abortion has become a wedge issue instead of moral issue.

There are "pro life" people who support wars of greed and capital punishment. There are "pro choice" people who cannot discuss any of the choices that commonly result in abortion of convenience.
The terms have pretty much lost the original meanings and now serve mainly to divide people.
Tom