rational experiences
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The God of science a spiritual innocent man named earth God as planets don't talk.
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Is religion devised stupidity to control the people?
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rational experiences
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Religions history was first medical. It was in fact the healer medical profession that implemented healing buildings.
Structured sound resonance.
Human brain balancing entrainment by meditation. Prayer. Song. Music. Oils rubbed on body. White robes donned whilst in healing sanctuary. Coloured glass. Bell resonance ringing.
Peaceful mutual community support. Common respect human decency.
Cleansing rituals performed. Baths were in sanctuary also cell rebirthing cleansing holy resonant water. Aroma therapy oils and incense breath inhalation.
Food mainly bread was given to poor families. Wine in those days a medicinal remedy as water was polluted outside in drinking holes. Mass evaporation causes.
Wine considered a healer tonic as many statuses were. Misconstrued today.
syo
Well-Known Member
Money is everywhere.
I understand little differently that Romans 6, but, I agree, the idea of purgatory is not Biblical.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Yes, I have.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
He doesn't have to. As long as he stays first person and talks about God in personal terms as to him and accept that it is not objective, he doesn't have to live up to your subjective claims that he must give objective evidence for something which is subjective.
You are using a subjective norm, that you can't live up to yourself. You can't give objective evidence for your demand he must give objective evidence. That is a subjective norm and not an objective fact. Further your subjective norm breaks down, when he is subjective.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
You mean other than the endless rules, that they always try and force on people?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I find Paul was drawing back to the penalty Adam paid (Genesis 2:17), thus reasoning that the one who has died (Romans 6:7) has been acquitted from sin because by means of one's death he has paid the full penalty price for sin.
As with Adam: No post-mortem penalty, No double jeopardy for Adam. So, as Paul wrote at Romans 6:23 when a person dies his sinful record no longer stands against that person. If it were Not for Jesus' unselfish sacrifice the person would never live again. Once resurrected a person's sins would Not be re-examined.
His past sins does Not mean further punishment past death. Death being the complete or full price that sin pays.
ALL sin of course is wicked, but that does Not mean all sinners are wicked - Acts of the Apostles 24:15 .
ALL sinners are weak in some way and that is why genuine repenting is necessary, so what a person does after they are resurrected will determine wickedness or not - Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35; 2 Peter 3:9
Jesus simply gave a NEW commandment as found at John 13:34-35 to love others as he loved others.
In other words, like Jesus we are now to love neighbor MORE than self, more than the Golden Rule of Leviticus 19:18.
I find there were Not endless rules at Genesis 2:17, just one.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Taking your exaggeration into consideration, yes, besides the moral rules they teach us.
Sheldon
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Except I don't see that reflected in many theists attitude, they are forever laying down rules that they insist a deity wants us to live by. Then there is this...
"Mathew 5
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
I think one of the problems of that is, the sins are forgiven by the words Jesus said. Jesus died because of the words and that is why it can be seen as that he died for our sins. But I think it is only symbolically, because sins were and can be forgiven without death as shown in these:
The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who is this that speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?" But Jesus, perceiving their thoughts, answered them, "Why are you reasoning so in your hearts? Which is easier to say, 'Your sins are forgiven you;' or to say, 'Arise and walk?' But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins" (he said to the paralyzed man), "I tell you, arise, and take up your cot, and go to your house." Immediately he rose up before them, and took up that which he was laying on, and departed to his house, glorifying God.
Luke 5:21-25
Whoever's sins you forgive, they are forgiven them. Whoever's sins you retain, they have been retained."
John 20:23
Yes, sins can be forgive without death; see Matthew 25:31-33; Matthew 25:37
Until Jesus' coming 'Glory Time' we die because: we can't stop sinning.
If we could stop sinning we would Not die.
However, when Jesus comes (Rev.22:20,2)he will destroy 'enemy death ' for us - 1 Corinthians 15:24-26; Isaiah 25:8
rational experiences
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A man born as a human baby never saved anyone. All humans die.
Biology says so. We end as microbial bacterias latest scientific thesis where science places us in theory. First as the state of scientific advised human outcome by calculus.
Science first not human first.
O earth is God science of human thesis. Products dusts. To heat melt build a machine. That also takes dusts into nuclear blasting reactions.
Which ends life by human science.
So real natural science human observed said ice is earths O fusion gas cooled saviour.
It saved the small nature of life biology by gas and water cooling.
As dinosaurs cold blood lived in a hotter gas atmosphere as giants.
So we were taught gods saviour the ice is newly born not of the giant evil beast recreated presence end of every year. Balances very hot irradiating earth summer versus presence amassed ice returned reborn.
The man ger kept life stable.
Balance of two keeps human and animal biology safe in a stable gas spirit heavens atmosphere. So earth doesn't erupt into a chemical blasting. As it had before moses event.
From radiation removal by science.
It didn't discuss wood the nature garden as it's body substance is not a red celled blooded life. About blood stability for health.
What it did Quote is bushes burnt too when ice the saviour of life melted into floods.
A story about what human occult nuclear science invention caused.
If you say my human brothers advice about science assisted to save me. He still practices nuclear science.
The history machines pyramid blew up.l stopped science. The same sight you see with nuclear power plants.
Dust on gods earth is fused.
Theme stigmata Human unnatural skin welts rash bleeding skin cutting was about loss of holy blood type in irradiation causes. Red celled blood.
Blood we all live with by type. Red.
Hence red is a holy colour in December so is the green of nature not incinerated.
Venerated as a life celebration to have food and not be starving from crop burnt and fruit life destroyed.
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Sorry, I must disagree slightly on that. Bible tells eternal life is for righteous. And righteous person doesn’t sin.
These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23
He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. To this end the Son of God was revealed, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn't do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn't love his brother.
1 John 3:7-10
You may ask, how is that possible and I say: By words that Jesus said, person can be born anew. Obviously, if person is born anew, the old him is dead and he is a new being. I think that can and should happen already.
"Most assuredly, I tell you, unless one is born anew, he can't see the Kingdom of God." Nicodemus said to him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb, and be born?" Jesus answered, "Most assuredly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God! That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Don't marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born anew.'
John 3:3-7
as many as received him, to them he gave the right to become God's children, to those who believe in his name: who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
John 1:12-13
It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.
John 6:63
Yes, all humans die. Not only biology says so but so does the Bible.
ALL of us die 'because' we were all born 'after' father Adam sinned.
Mary's Son did Not have an imperfect human father but a Perfect God.
A God who transferred the per-human life of heavenly Jesus to Mary.
In that way, Jesus could be born without the tendency towards sin or sinning.
As Adam started out with healthy human perfection until he sinned/ broke God's Law.
Jesus too started out with healthy human perfection and did Not sin, did Not break any of God's Laws.
Adam under favorable paradisical conditions proved un-faithful.
Jesus, on the other hand, under adverse conditions proved faithful to death.
Both Jesus and the man Job (Job 2:4-5) proved Satan a liar.
Satan challenges all of us. Touch our 'flesh...' ( loose physical health ) and we would Not serve God.
Both Job and Jesus under adverse conditions proved faithful to death.
Thus proving that Adam and Eve under good righteous conditions could have proved faithful to God.
Jesus forewarned us at Luke 21:11 that a great tribulation (Revelation 7:14,9) is coming.
The rider of the horseman of Revelation 6:8 is on the gallop so there will be shortages of food.
rational experiences
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Nature lived in the past giant earth life as its dinosaur food.
Type of food on earth is depicted by the atmospheric state.
Humans only eat particular types of food for humans living a life. We don't eat dinosaur food.
We aren't the nature garden was the scientists teaching. Don't change anything as tree life fruiting is rooting depended on dirt soils.
Men thesis beginnings for science status is not the natural status.
Say in the beginning is nuclear dusts. Just for reacting only.
That reacted. Is first just a story. In first life they were not reacting.
Earth is not ground reactive.
Science unsealed earth by science as science placing earth as a ground constant that life did not live by. Sciences ground constant nuclear dust.
Nuclear dusts
When men claim I fixed the constant. Fallout above. Fixed machine status they infer to control convert earth to O fixed state dusts first for science only and not life.
So it begins as sink holes first sign. Science inventing gods body into its fixed state purpose. Just a resource.
Then ground loses its water fusion in attacks and then sand only is left. Dirt gets removed. Nature dies.
Wilderness becomes larger. As nature not numbers was first.
Man of past said I increased the wilderness by forty years so it took me forty years to travel out of the sand desert I caused. It had increased its land size.
As forty days rain took out earths soil water.
Reason numbers maths came out of nowhere as it never existed first.
When applied changed mass into something it never was. Destroyed.
Water history science said was taken out of land mass destroyed as the giants food forestry that had existed before became snap freeze. Was known.
Was the known scientific teaching. Why the land face of earth had changed.
Origin water input was asteroid moon ice water replacement.
O earth had water itself was first ignored as natural earth history.
Water gets removed out of stone first was the scientific teaching.
Which you ignore even after science was stopped. It owned every teaching advice why it should never have been repracticed.
The moon overheats in earths heated space causes. It released blood red gases. Ice it said had stopped the sacrifice. As the moon is directly linked to waters history gained on earth and it's movement.
Why Ice and red owned a historic scientific advice about owning the gift of life by the saviour as the present stability. Ice body.
Two balanced sea son summer to winter. Hence ice should not melting owning earth stability. Is melting as balances no longer exist.
Reasoned Satan star gained 1000 years ago. 1901 Russia hit gas burn.
Horses in life are natural.
Horses were with human riders fleeing the east pyramid nuclear ground released attack.
Earths ground mass opened around the Jerusalem area into a ground fission.
Were recorded as life removed and sacrificed. How any ground life bio water supported was lost before.
Theme of a horse symbol meant review the story to determine what a horse had to do with science. To be imaged in the sky before man Jesus new attack.
Advised it had no status in science.
Why,?
Scientists are theist destroyers. Who look back at nature beast life and thesis about it once being human. Who a human was before being human. Include the thesis with nuclear dust strings.
So the healers said human law...never look back. Any biology yesterday as a parent type is deceased. Only sex owned the sin of life and not God.
Was taught.
Baby life inherits it's biology healthy it is harmed due to earths heavens causes.
Pretty basic science for kindy...let's begin re teaching science is life's destroyers by baby humans inherited sacrifice before life is destroyed.
Type of food on earth is depicted by the atmospheric state.
Humans only eat particular types of food for humans living a life. We don't eat dinosaur food.
We aren't the nature garden was the scientists teaching. Don't change anything as tree life fruiting is rooting depended on dirt soils.
Men thesis beginnings for science status is not the natural status.
Say in the beginning is nuclear dusts. Just for reacting only.
That reacted. Is first just a story. In first life they were not reacting.
Earth is not ground reactive.
Science unsealed earth by science as science placing earth as a ground constant that life did not live by. Sciences ground constant nuclear dust.
Nuclear dusts
When men claim I fixed the constant. Fallout above. Fixed machine status they infer to control convert earth to O fixed state dusts first for science only and not life.
So it begins as sink holes first sign. Science inventing gods body into its fixed state purpose. Just a resource.
Then ground loses its water fusion in attacks and then sand only is left. Dirt gets removed. Nature dies.
Wilderness becomes larger. As nature not numbers was first.
Man of past said I increased the wilderness by forty years so it took me forty years to travel out of the sand desert I caused. It had increased its land size.
As forty days rain took out earths soil water.
Reason numbers maths came out of nowhere as it never existed first.
When applied changed mass into something it never was. Destroyed.
Water history science said was taken out of land mass destroyed as the giants food forestry that had existed before became snap freeze. Was known.
Was the known scientific teaching. Why the land face of earth had changed.
Origin water input was asteroid moon ice water replacement.
O earth had water itself was first ignored as natural earth history.
Water gets removed out of stone first was the scientific teaching.
Which you ignore even after science was stopped. It owned every teaching advice why it should never have been repracticed.
The moon overheats in earths heated space causes. It released blood red gases. Ice it said had stopped the sacrifice. As the moon is directly linked to waters history gained on earth and it's movement.
Why Ice and red owned a historic scientific advice about owning the gift of life by the saviour as the present stability. Ice body.
Two balanced sea son summer to winter. Hence ice should not melting owning earth stability. Is melting as balances no longer exist.
Reasoned Satan star gained 1000 years ago. 1901 Russia hit gas burn.
Horses in life are natural.
Horses were with human riders fleeing the east pyramid nuclear ground released attack.
Earths ground mass opened around the Jerusalem area into a ground fission.
Were recorded as life removed and sacrificed. How any ground life bio water supported was lost before.
Theme of a horse symbol meant review the story to determine what a horse had to do with science. To be imaged in the sky before man Jesus new attack.
Advised it had no status in science.
Why,?
Scientists are theist destroyers. Who look back at nature beast life and thesis about it once being human. Who a human was before being human. Include the thesis with nuclear dust strings.
So the healers said human law...never look back. Any biology yesterday as a parent type is deceased. Only sex owned the sin of life and not God.
Was taught.
Baby life inherits it's biology healthy it is harmed due to earths heavens causes.
Pretty basic science for kindy...let's begin re teaching science is life's destroyers by baby humans inherited sacrifice before life is destroyed.