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Is Russia had right to afraid from West agenda? ?

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
nuclear weapons talk now.
West in all recent wars break international laws. Why just Russia?
I do remember always you defends crimes of Isreal. It's weird how suddenly humanity apprears ?
I believe as i said. Who had nuclear weapons easy break international laws. And human laws and God laws too

I don't defend Israel,only it's right to exist,i support Palestine's right to exist too,what i don't support is Palestine's ambition to wipe out Israel,or Irans Hezbollah an al Qassam brigades,6 wars and infitadas shows they don't want peace maybe you have mixed up humanity and knowing the difference from right and wrong.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I don't defend Israel,only it's right to exist,i support Palestine's right to exist too,what i don't support is Palestine's ambition to wipe out Israel,or Irans Hezbollah an al Qassam brigades,6 wars and infitadas shows they don't want peace maybe you have mixed up humanity and knowing the difference from right and wrong.

I won't support Isreal exist since it racism country and oppression nations in West Bank and Gaza. Only in case change it's behavior and laws.
That's automaticly convert radical of Hamas and others. To peace. If they don't accept peace. I believe many Muslims will fight them. Me one.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Some interesting background info....
Ukraine had given all of its nuclear weapons to Russia after
dissolution of the Soviet Union. Ukraine pledged to remain
non-nuclear. When Russia took Crimea, & re-stationed nuclear
weapons there. This history portends trouble.
Nuclear weapons and Ukraine - Wikipedia
A portentous excerpt....
In July 2014 the Russian foreign minister stated that his country had the right to defend Crimea using nuclear weapons,[22] and in March 2015 president Putin said that during the invasion of Crimea he’d been prepared to put nuclear forces on alert.[23] Around the same time, a Russian foreign ministry official said that Russia had the right to deploy nuclear arms to the peninsula which is internationally recognized as Ukrainian territory.[24]
So if Ukraine kept nuclear weapons. Won't invade by Russia now.
I believe Ukraine should not be allie to West since it's border to Russia.

I think my country should have nuclear weapons, to not invade in future by any country, a front world. World just condemn the invader?!!
Mean:
Many nuclear countries invaded non-nuclear, In front of world!!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So if Ukraine kept nuclear weapons. Won't invade by Russia now.
I believe Ukraine should not be allie to West since it's border to Russia.
Ukraine is small compared to Russia, & had relatively few nukes.
This would make them useful for defense, but not offense.
I think my country should have nuclear weapons, to not invade in future by any country, a front world. World just condemn the invader?!!
Mean:
Many nuclear countries invaded non-nuclear, In front of world!!
I wouldn't say that any country should acquire nukes.
But I see that behavior of belligerent countries would
inspire some countries to want them, eg, USA's
repeated attacks on Iran.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
I won't support Isreal exist since it racism country and oppression nations in West Bank and Gaza. Only in case change it's behavior and laws.
That's automaticly convert radical of Hamas and others. To peace. If they don't accept peace. I believe many Muslims will fight them. Me one.

I doubt you could get more racist than Hamas Iran or Syria,in your previous post you say "Who had nuclear weapons easy break international laws. And human laws and God laws too" , if thats true why hasn't your god punished them?.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I doubt you could get more racist than Hamas Iran or Syria,in your previous post you say "Who had nuclear weapons easy break international laws. And human laws and God laws too" , if thats true why hasn't your god punished them?.
I am not racist .You seems misunderstood me.

I explain my understanding what happened ,and happening , who had nuclear weapons start wars ,no one could stop "him".

Edited to add
who escape life punishement,will punish by God for sure.

That's why no one will live forever,all will die then meet in Judgement day.
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Ukraine is small compared to Russia, & had relatively few nukes.
This would make them useful for defense, but not offense.
For my opinion Ukrain president should not be an allie to West more than Russia.because Ukrain and Russia was one country ,very close to Russia.I think West was not innocent to approach to Ukrain, they had plan to extend into and blockade Russia, by "USED" gain Ukrain lands.
I wouldn't say that any country should acquire nukes.
But I see that behavior of belligerent countries would
inspire some countries to want them, eg, USA's
repeated attacks on Iran
Let's take my country as example ,(Algeria) because it's neighbor to Europe and allie to Russia little bit, so Russia give it's nuclear submarin to threaten Europe, I won't accept my leaders and country follow Russia in this ,to provoke Europe and used by Russia against Europe or attack any country.

I believe Ukraine used by West, then West abandanned them .
Being neutral is wise decision with neighbors like Russia or USA or Europe.
My final conclusion , the West destroied many countries allie to Russia by name of democraty and freedom, Russia destroy Ukrain because they follow democraty of West.
result Western democraty become a curse to millions of people.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
For my opinion Ukrain president should not be an allie to West more than Russia.because Ukrain and Russia was one country ,very close to Russia.I think West was not innocent to approach to Ukrain, they had plan to extend into and blockade Russia, by "USED" gain Ukrain lands.

Let's take my country as example ,(Algeria) because it's neighbor to Europe and allie to Russia little bit, so Russia give it's nuclear submarin to threaten Europe, I won't accept my leaders and country follow Russia in this ,to provoke Europe and used by Russia against Europe or attack any country.

I believe Ukraine used by West, then West abandanned them .
Being neutral is wise decision with neighbors like Russia or USA or Europe.
My final conclusion , the West destroied many countries allie to Russia by name of democraty and freedom, Russia destroy Ukrain because they follow democraty of West.
result Western democraty become a curse to millions of people.
Rather than "used by", it could be that the west
sees Ukraine as an independent country (which
it is), & this is good for stability because it won't
be Russian nuclear weapons that much closer
to the west. I see a reciprocal relationship.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
I am not racist .You seems misunderstood me.

I explain my understanding what happened ,and happening , who had nuclear weapons start wars ,no one could stop "him".

Edited to add
who escape life punishement,will punish by God for sure.

That's why no one will live forever,all will die then meet in Judgement day.

Nuclear weapons are a detterent and last resort although Putin has made threats to use them but thet isn't why he can do as he likes in Ukraine.
 

Martin

Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
Nuclear weapons are a detterent and last resort although Putin has made threats to use them but thet isn't why he can do as he likes in Ukraine.

I think Putin was threatening the use of tactical "battlefield" nukes. These are low-yield weapons.
 

Martin

Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
So if Ukraine kept nuclear weapons. Won't invade by Russia now.
I believe Ukraine should not be allie to West since it's border to Russia.

I think my country should have nuclear weapons, to not invade in future by any country, a front world. World just condemn the invader?!!
Mean:
Many nuclear countries invaded non-nuclear, In front of world!!

Ukraine is a sovereign nation, so surely it should be up to them who they make alliances with.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
@Mock Turtle , why gang up against Russia?Yes, we take the sensibilities of our neighbors into consideration.
Gang up? Not think it is slack morals if you can't call out an unprovoked vicious attack by a much larger and nuclear nation against a much smaller one without such, purely because they either think this country should stay under their influence of they seem to think it will heighten the risk of them being attacked. It's called bullying and/or blackmail.

When actually, most nations have boundaries and don't attack others because of the threat they perceive - which is usually slight. Russia, and under Putin, apparently is, and ever was perhaps, so paranoid as to being attacked, when in actual fact most would never dream of such, given that most would rather it would go away and play with itself - if so deluded - or just behave like most other nations. Delusions of grandeur a factor here - or jealousy as to what the more civilised nations have achieved - through democracy? It being faux democracy under Putin.

Putin could have chosen a different course from the beginning rather than becoming a despot, and doing so via his oligarchs, but this is where he has ended up - with a catastrophic decision and perhaps resulting from his failing mental abilities. Which might even end in an equally catastrophic nuclear war. He's not mad - risking such? :oops:
 
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BigBill88

Member
So if Ukraine kept nuclear weapons. Won't invade by Russia now.
I believe Ukraine should not be allie to West since it's border to Russia.

I think my country should have nuclear weapons, to not invade in future by any country, a front world. World just condemn the invader?!!
Mean:
Many nuclear countries invaded non-nuclear, In front of world!!

Those were Russian nukes not Ukrainian or American you have to develop your own nuke and the world doesn't want that. We don't need anymore. Yes its not what you want to hear but we need to get rid of them. If Ukrainian used a nuke the retaliation would be devastating.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Gang up? Not think it is slack morals if you can't call out an unprovoked vicious attack by a much larger and nuclear nation against a much smaller one without such, purely because they either think this country should stay under their influence of they seem to think it will heighten the risk of them being attacked. It's called bullying and/or blackmail.

When actually, most nations have boundaries and don't attack others because of the threat they perceive - which is usually slight. Russia, and under Putin, apparently is, and ever was perhaps, so paranoid as to being attacked, when in actual fact most would never dream of such, given that most would rather it would go away and play with itself - if so deluded - or just behave like most other nations. Delusions of grandeur a factor here - or jealousy as to what the more civilized nations have achieved - through democracy? It being faux democracy under Putin.
You are forgetting what lead to the attack. Why is US and NATO paranoid against Russia?
What was the need to expand NATO, when they knew that it will enrage Russia. Now, US and NATO are sitting pretty, but Ukrainians are facing the problems. Who has the delusion of grandeur, Russia or US?
 
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