Is Russia had right to afraid from West agenda? ?

[England my lionheart]

If they knew all this about Gadaffi, then why didn't they say that at the outset, even going back to 1986? That was when the US bombed Gadaffi over his alleged involvement in the bombing of a Berlin nightclub.

Then there were reports that Libya wasn't involved in that, and then they turned around and said Libya was involved after all. There was a lot of confusion and misinformation. A lot of people thought the US was wrong to bomb Gadaffi without clear evidence of his responsibility in the bombing.

But if he was a paedophile and they knew it, they should have said so immediately. That would have changed the public's attitude about the bombing.

In proxy wars i think governments have selective hearing or turn a blind eye to suit their ambition,it will never make it right though.

 

[England my lionheart]

I am very sorry.
Assad and his wife are enlightened wonderful people. They both graduated in Britain.
I will not believe anything without evidence about them.

As for Gaddafi, he was practically home in Italy. Nobody has ever suspected those rumors were true.

It's easy,just look him up.

 

[Mock Turtle]

If you seem to know what Putin seems to be doing or how that seems relevant to MAD,
let us know how ya did it.

Just mentioning something I saw in a recent article as to what Putin changed regarding such policy, and hence why he might use nukes of some kind.

 

[Godobeyer]

Although i dislike a lot the idea of protecting Saudi Arabia it would be a far worse scenario if they weren't protected,what would it be like if Iran and Hezbollah were free to do what they want?.

West protect Saudi Arabia and other oppresive regimes because they allie to them and oil.
If they become allie to Russia ,they will be under attack or sanctions same like Asad,and Sadam. and Iran and Venzeala.

Why always Israel and West free to do they want ? , because they had nuclear weapons, NOW Russia do what want because they had nuclear weapons.

Media in all stories made big rule to devil and angel some sides depends allie.
I imagine if Russia which invade Iraq,or Vietnam or Afghanistan, all world will devil Russia ,but because West used media very well , it's become normal.and sometimes Heros.

 

[Stevicus]

In proxy wars i think governments have selective hearing or turn a blind eye to suit their ambition,it will never make it right though.

It must suit someone's ambition, but from what it can tell, it doesn't really do anything for our nation or the common people. The Cold War and all these various interventionist wars have put a great strain on both of our nations in more ways than one.

 

[Kooky]

@Godobeyer
There is a vast gulf of a difference between being afraid of "the West" and invading a neighbouring country over it.

 

[Augustus]

If NATO believe in peace why put missiles next to RUSSIA ?

Russia has nuclear missiles much closer to NATO countries than NATO countries do to Russia

 

[Augustus]

There has never been hatred between these two almost identical Nations.

There is a hell of a lot of hatred now.

 

[oldbadger]

Hello all
I know this probably provoking some people subject.
But i think West won't listen to Russia until they used nuclear weapon in neutral allie country to NATO.
West support Ukraine to destroy Russia. Is not same condition Cuba and USA?
West destroy many allies of Russia such Iraq. Syria. Libya. Etc.
Is probably turn of Russia to destroy allies of West !!!?

If you were a Ukrainian you'd think differently about your country being trashed by a mega-monster.

 

[England my lionheart]

West protect Saudi Arabia and other oppresive regimes because they allie to them and oil.
If they become allie to Russia ,they will be under attack or sanctions same like Asad,and Sadam. and Iran and Venzeala.

Why always Israel and West free to do they want ? , because they had nuclear weapons, NOW Russia do what want because they had nuclear weapons.

Media in all stories made big rule to devil and angel some sides depends allie.
I imagine if Russia which invade Iraq,or Vietnam or Afghanistan, all world will devil Russia ,but because West used media very well , it's become normal.and sometimes Heros.

Russia has invaded Ukraine and broken international law,it is also risking a global conflict,what do you expect,a round of applause.

 

[England my lionheart]

It must suit someone's ambition, but from what it can tell, it doesn't really do anything for our nation or the common people. The Cold War and all these various interventionist wars have put a great strain on both of our nations in more ways than one.

It has and as you say it doesn’t do any good in the end,we never seem to learn from past mistakes sadly.

 

[viole]

The involve of NATO in Libya to remove ,and Iraq and many places hitted , denied the fact of it's just defensive .
I believe both are wrong , Russia and NATO.
NATO said something and doing something else on ground that's what Putin said.

I would not give an exemple by install Russian missiles Mexico missiles (if Mexico allie to Russia)because it's already happened Cuba is current example.

What you suggest now ,should world involve in nuclear war because Russia invade Ukraine , because Ukraine want to be NATO member ...etc ?

Let me get this straight. Are you defending a children killer?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Godobeyer]

If you were a Ukrainian you'd think differently about your country being trashed by a mega-monster.

Same think of Iraqi and Vietnami.Afgani to USA?
I would blame the West used my country against Russia.
I would blame President ukrainian to ask for have nuclear weapons.

 

[Godobeyer]

Let me get this straight. Are you defending a children killer?

Ciao

- viole

All killed children.
West and Isreal. Killed and civilians Children in many wars.
I believe West is Hypocrite in this side.
Used the subject "humanity" just when political required.
Ukrainians now pushing them against Russia.
by their president want have nuclear weapon.

 

[Godobeyer]

Russia has invaded Ukraine and broken international law,it is also risking a global conflict,what do you expect,a round of applause.

nuclear weapons talk now.
West in all recent wars break international laws. Why just Russia?
I do remember always you defends crimes of Isreal. It's weird how suddenly humanity apprears ?
I believe as i said. Who had nuclear weapons easy break international laws. And human laws and God laws too

 

[Augustus]

I would blame the West used my country against Russia.

Why do you treat Ukrainians like children who are not allowed make their own decisions?

I would blame President ukrainian to ask for have nuclear weapons.

Why do you keep saying this? It's not true.

You wouldn't let France tell Algeria what they could do, why demand Ukrainians should be Russian slaves just because you feel angry towards the West?

 

[Wandering Monk]

Ukrainians now pushing them against Russia.
by their president want have nuclear weapon.

I want a source for your claim that the Ukrainian president wants nuclear weapons?

 

[viole]

All killed children.
West and Isreal. Killed and civilians Children in many wars.
I believe West is Hypocrite in this side.
Used the subject "humanity" just when political required.
Ukrainians now pushing them against Russia.
by their president want have nuclear weapon.

Well, I am against killing children in general. You seem to allow it for some.

ciao

- viole

 

[oldbadger]

Same think of Iraqi and Vietnami.Afgani to USA?
I would blame the West used my country against Russia.
I would blame President ukrainian to ask for have nuclear weapons.

So it looks as if you would support Putin and the Russian invaders.

 

[Revoltingest]

Same think of Iraqi and Vietnami.Afgani to USA?
I would blame the West used my country against Russia.
I would blame President ukrainian to ask for have nuclear weapons.

Some interesting background info....
Ukraine had given all of its nuclear weapons to Russia after
dissolution of the Soviet Union. Ukraine pledged to remain
non-nuclear. When Russia took Crimea, & re-stationed nuclear
weapons there. This history portends trouble.
Nuclear weapons and Ukraine - Wikipedia
A portentous excerpt....
In July 2014 the Russian foreign minister stated that his country had the right to defend Crimea using nuclear weapons,[22] and in March 2015 president Putin said that during the invasion of Crimea he’d been prepared to put nuclear forces on alert.[23] Around the same time, a Russian foreign ministry official said that Russia had the right to deploy nuclear arms to the peninsula which is internationally recognized as Ukrainian territory.[24]