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Is science based on circular reasoning?

Thief

Rogue Theologian
a very small circle...
for every effect there is a cause...
for every cause there is an effect...
 

gnostic

The Lost One
a very small circle...
for every effect there is a cause...
for every cause there is an effect...
make up your mind
Thief is going to bring up his "spirit, first" or other variants like "spirit before substance".

That's his clumsy attempt at explaining cause-and-effect, not realising that he is actually using "circular reasoning" to justify his argument.

Thief think he being clever, but he's really quite the opposite.

Rogue theologian, my a##; he as dogmatic as they come.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
It's not based on circular reason, there's simply no other intelligent species we know of using science to compare findings with.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Science is based on circular reasoning as much as earth is round.
Regards

If circular reasoning allows me to write this post immediately visible by all people on earth, while not circular reasoning allows me only to pray to the vacuum, then give me more circular reasoning, please.

Ciao

- viole
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
It is true of all religions that rely on scripture as the word of God.

Is that circular enough......

Yes, but he didn't say scriptural religions that consider their text the word of their god to be followed as incontrovertible, he just said "religion." I agree that logic is circular, but saying that because a few religions regard their scripture as the incontrovertible word of their god to be followed doesn't mean all religions do that. It doesn't make sense.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
We are not nature??
Of course we are. You are external to me, and I'm to you, so by extension we're both part of nature to each other.

If it is the "reality" then what is this "nature" or "natural" fundamentally?
Because they're essentially the same. Without something that is assume to objectively exist outside of yourself and your mind, there's no world to be investigated. Maybe we can add one more assumption or premise to science: reality exist, objectively, and that's nature.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
WHAT is nature/natural. If I say everything is supernatural, you would want an answer, wouldn't you?
No. You'd just be defining natural as supernatural. If you proposed that supernatural causes which you defined were necessary for what we observe, then I'd ask why we should seek for such causes.
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
Science is based on circular reasoning as much as earth is round.
Regards

I think it certainly can be

Eddington referred to it as a scientific fishing net- designed to catch as much of the easiest fish as possible, and concluding that everything else doesn't exist
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
And Carcharoth is the greatest of Werewolves, to be slain by Huan, the Hound of Valinor.
What? This makes more sense than the opening post, damn it.
Thanks for your input.
In other words you don't have anything positive on the topic.
Regards
 
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