Is Sex Before Marriage Immoral?

[Quoth The Raven]

Is it a good thing when a guy can't get enough of it and resorts to rape? That's how many rapists start out. A little dabble here and there, then more and more demanding...

I fail to see how that is an argument against pre-marital sex. What if he can't get enough from his wife? You're speaking like sex is some all powerful thing that will cause irrational behaviour in the best of men...that being the case it will occur within or without the institution of marriage.

You created your morals? Really? No thing or person around you effected your decision? God had no say in how you were raised, who raised you, what effects your decisions on what to believe? Your parents pulled a fast one on God by raising you and effecting what you believed, morally?

We create our own morals...people absorb what is around them and throw away what doesn't work to create a unique outlook. My morals are not exactly the same as my parents or my siblings; my morality is uniquely my own. As for Linwoods parents pulling a fast one on God, I have 2 words for you: FREE WILL.

So, God's immoral, huh? Ever heard of the sermon on the mount? The morals that no human could ever live up to, were preached about by a historically-proven perfect man. That perfect man, Jesus, claimed to be God. He said He was the truth, the moral. Why would a perfect man have slipped up by saying that and lying? So, God is the standard we should live by. The "immoral" God.
What in particular are you talking about in Exodus? That's a pretty big book.

Jesus hasn't even been historically proven to EXIST, let alone to be perfect. I believe in Dragons, but I don't hold Anne McCaffrey books up as historical evidence of fire breathing beasties.

True, it doesn't. But you don't have to worry about what people will think, or whether your boyfriend will still like you. And there's nothing magical about contraceptives.

What if your husband doesn't want children? What if he turns around and says,'having none of this, seeya later,' An unplanned pregnancy can be just as damaging to a marriage as it can be to any other relationship. Being married is not some sort of magical cure all.

Because not many couples have abstained before marriage.

Usually these women have been infected by their husbands, who have contracted the virus AFTER they were married. Obviously they fall into the category of 'got a taste of sex and now can't not have it from wherever they can get it.'

Really? I can name about a hundred people right off the bat that have abstained and are either happily married or happily single.

And I know people who have abstained and are indeed happily married, have abstained and are divorced, have not abstained and are happily married...and unless you've been with these 100 people 24/7, you're just assuming that they've abstained. For all you know they were out there doing the Horizontal Rumba every day and twice on Sundays before they tied the knot.

Usually it's the guy that's "rational thinker" though. It's a fact that woman rely more on emotions than guys do. Guys think more logically, girls more emotionally, even though they process things quicker.

How is the guy the rational thinker? Just earlier on your were telling us that pre-marital sex causes rape because these men can't even apparently think rationally enough to know he shouldn't sexually assault someone.

It's easier to trust a virgin spouse. According to polls, more people want a virgin spouse than a non-virgin.

It's easier to trust a virgin spouse with what? Which polls were these? Was it a random sample, or the local abstinence support group? I took a mini poll in my lounge room and the reults say your poll is a load of twaddle.

 

[Sunstone]

It's easier to trust a virgin spouse. According to polls, more people want a virgin spouse than a non-virgin.

It's easier to trust a virgin spouse with what? Which polls were these? Was it a random sample, or the local abstinence support group? I took a mini poll in my lounge room and the reults say your poll is a load of twaddle.

I think, Lady Lazarus, that LilChrist was refering to polls that his or her brother mentioned having heard of in a high school human sexuality course. I'll leave it to you to speculate on the validity of such polls.

As for myself, I think experience counts for something in everything -- including in the relm of human sexuality -- and all other things being equal, I would prefer an experienced spouse to a non-experienced spouse. Perhaps that's just me though.

 

[Quoth The Raven]

I think, Lady Lazarus, that LilChrist was refering to polls that his or her brother mentioned having heard of in a high school human sexuality course. I'll leave it to you to speculate on the validity of such polls.{/QUOTE]
Ah, so these would be the same polls that claimed that people who abstained until after marriage had better sex than they would have had they not waited. I can see how a group of 14 year old boys might think that way.

As for myself, I think experience counts for something in everything -- including in the relm of human sexuality -- and all other things being equal, I would prefer an experienced spouse to a non-experienced spouse. Perhaps that's just me though.

It's not just you...my other half (the mini poll I conducted) has the same attitude. Having previously had 'a virgin spouse', I think he's speaking from a stronger point of view than whoever the sample for these polls was.

 

[Sunstone]

Having previously had 'a virgin spouse', I think he's speaking from a stronger point of view than whoever the sample for these polls was.

We might be making a mistake here, Lady Lazarus, in assuming that these "polls" even exist. Recently, in the United States, the abstinence only crowd has been putting out a great deal of false information about human sexuality (see the Waxman Report). As a consequence, they have made it risky to believe anything you hear in an abstinence only human sexuality course. It could be that these "polls" are just another example of the trash that is sometimes fobbed off on teens as sound information about their sexuality.

Personally, I think the number one sport in America is not football, but misleading young people about their sexuality. You've got to be careful these days what you believe -- just because a teacher tells you it's true doesn't mean you are not being manipulated by artful half-truths and distortions.

 

[retrorich]

Is Sex Before Marriage Immoral?

Of course...that's what makes it more fun.

 

[may]

Is Sex Before Marriage Immoral?

A conscience that has not been trained by Bible principles may allow a man and a woman to have sex before marriage .Their conscience may not condemn them. Yet, anyone who shares God’s views on sex and marriage will decide against it .so i suppose it depends on who is your guide in life ,yourself or God


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[retrorich]

Is Sex Before Marriage Immoral?

A conscience that has not been trained by Bible principles may allow a man and a woman to have sex before marriage .Their conscience may not condemn them. Yet, anyone who shares God’s views on sex and marriage will decide against it .so i suppose it depends on who is your guide in life ,yourself or God

I choose myself. ​

 

[linwood]

Yet, anyone who shares God’s views on sex and marriage will decide against it .

Not that it makes a difference to me since I`m with retrorich.

But where does God define his thoughts on sex & marraige?

 

[cardero]

linwood writes: But where does God define his thoughts on sex & marraige?

I do not think GOD has any bearing on the ceremonies that we traditionally constructed for ourselves and if sex is a gift from GOD like some people have been telling me, I am sure that there are no contrictions/restrictions on how we use this gift.

 

[painted wolf]

May- there are those who believe in creator but not in the bible. Sex was a gift to be enjoyed by humanity. Marrage is an arangement for care of the children and a way to share your life with someone special to you.

wa:do

 

[may]

May- there are those who believe in creator but not in the bible. Sex was a gift to be enjoyed by humanity. Marrage is an arangement for care of the children and a way to share your life with someone special to you.

wa:do

Yes i agree sex is a gift to be enjoyed within the marriage arrangement

 

[Sunstone]

I think sex outside the marriage arrangement can be a gift too. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone who didn't want it, but then I wouldn't recommend marriage for anyone who didn't want it.

What, really, is the problem with sex outside of marriage? Why is this issue controversial to begin with?

 

[painted wolf]

May that is not what I said. I said Sex was a gift... marrage is an aragnement.
Marrage is not nessisary to have sex.

wa:do

 

[huajiro]

Marriage is immoral.....sex is a normal part of life.

 

[Sunstone]

Marriage is immoral.....sex is a normal part of life.

Why do you believe marriage is immoral, Huajiro?

 

[huajiro]

I was being an a-s. I just recently had problems with a marriage.

 

[Sunstone]

I was being an a-s. I just recently had problems with a marriage.

When you make a joke, you're being an a**??? Nonsense! I just didn't pick up on it.

Back to topic. I'm fixing to assert that, under certain conditions, the refusal to have sex before marriage can be immoral. Anyone interested in debating that?

 

[huajiro]

Not me....I agree....I waited 5 years for sex in my first marriage

 

[Rex]

I think sex can be defined as pleasure and as intimate.

 

[Hope]

Back to topic. I'm fixing to assert that, under certain conditions, the refusal to have sex before marriage can be immoral. Anyone interested in debating that?

What 'conditions' would those be? I am very curious. I wonder if I qualify as 'immoral' in your book....:sarcastic