Is Sexual Intercourse Between Siblings Morally Permissible?

[bobhikes]

I would say based on the definition of moral it is not morally permissible.

1)Based on personal conscience.
2)according to common standard of justice
3)encouraging goodness and decency
4)good by accepted standards
5)able to tell right from wrong
6)based on personal conviction
.

I don't believe there is such a thing as interracial relations but I only see 1 and 6 as possibly being against

2) Standard justice accepts interracial relations in most states and countries does not accept siblings
3) interracial relations would strenghten the species as a whole. siblings relations would thin the blood should an accident occur.
4) interracial relations are good (interreligious may not qualify here). Sibling relations not good.
5) able to tell right from wrong No issue with interracial major issue with sibling.

Only negatives are 1)based on personal conscience or 6)conviction or basically being racist.

 

[xkatz]

I believe that intercourse between close relatives is immoral, but I am not going to go out of my way to stop you.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

I don't believe there is such a thing as interracial relations but I only see 1 and 6 as possibly being against

2) Standard justice accepts interracial relations in most states and countries does not accept siblings
3) interracial relations would strenghten the species as a whole. siblings relations would thin the blood should an accident occur.
4) interracial relations are good (interreligious may not qualify here). Sibling relations not good.
5) able to tell right from wrong No issue with interracial major issue with sibling.

Only negatives are 1)based on personal conscience or 6)conviction or basically being racist.

That is based on one interpretation. Certain people would think just the opposite about each and every one of those points.

For the record, I have no problems with interracial relationships. It just happened to be an easy "controversial" situation to grab for comparison.

 

[bobhikes]

That is based on one interpretation. Certain people would think just the opposite about each and every one of those points.

For the record, I have no problems with interracial relationships. It just happened to be an easy "controversial" situation to grab for comparison.

You are another person please elaborate. This is a debate forum and I am open to debate.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

You are another person please elaborate. This is a debate forum and I am open to debate.

Well I see it as what two consenting adults do in private is up to them. The potential from having children was removed from the scenario in the OP so that is not an issue. That being taken into consideration, are siblings hurting anyone if they choose to "play?"

 

[bobhikes]

Well I see it as what two consenting adults do in private is up to them. The potential from having children was removed from the scenario in the OP so that is not an issue. That being taken into consideration, are siblings hurting anyone if they choose to "play?"

The question was if it was moral. So I check my dictionary because I wasn't sure what moral was.

There is nothing other than sterilization that can remove the threat of having children from such an act. All contraceptives are only at best 99% true.

Lets say they are sterile, I would argue it still goes against what is good for society for the only reason they are doing it is to play. Playing with sex is dangerous for society by causing and spreading dangerous medical diseases. If they only intend to have sex with each other than it would not be an issue with society.

I would also argue though that interracial couples that have multiple sex partners would not pass the same moral definition.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Lets say they are sterile, I would argue it still goes against what is good for society for the only reason they are doing it is to play. Playing with sex is dangerous for society by causing and spreading dangerous medical diseases. If they only intend to have sex with each other than it would not be an issue with society.

I can tell you, I have had many sexual relationships over the years that were for play. As long as we are/were both consenting adults, how was that bad for society?

 

[bobhikes]

I can tell you, I have had many sexual relationships over the years that were for play. As long as we are/were both consenting adults, how was that bad for society?

Understand I am not judging you I to have had sexual relations that were strictly for play.

Morally any sexual relations outside of a relationship designed to produce offspring is dangerous to society. Look at your third world countries where protection is not readily available you will see a spread of herpies, aids and such. These diseases are extremly dangerous to society.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Bobhikes I'm suprised a Nihlist feels that way about sex

 

[bobhikes]

Bobhikes I'm suprised a Nihlist feels that way about sex

Very Good, I am a Fact Nihlist, I do not believe there are any real facts, which makes it easy to debate them.

Definitions can be twisted any way you like. I chose to support this one this day. Tomorrow I may go the other way.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Understand I am not judging you I to have had sexual relations that were strictly for play.

Morally any sexual relations outside of a relationship designed to produce offspring is dangerous to society. Look at your third world countries where protection is not readily available you will see a spread of herpies, aids and such. These diseases are extremly dangerous to society.

I had a friend that I "played with" for five years. We weren't boyfriend and boyfriend. We were just good friends that happened to like to have sex with each other. We did this for a longer period of time than most people keep a boyfriend/girlfriend. This even lasted longer than my last marriage. As two friends playing with each other constantly, how were we hurting society? How would this be different if I had been playing with my brother for those five years?

 

[Smoke]

That's easy. The challenge is seducing a straight brother. :yes:

Whatever makes you happy. Personally, I wouldn't even be comfortable letting my brother have a bite of my sandwich.

 

[Magic Man]

True that in many cases you just can't judge people yet in others we do judge them; like criminals, we judge them based on an act/acts which we identify as wrong/immoral.

We judge criminals in that they are doing things that harm others and/or society. We judge them based on their perceptible effect on society.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I think that the question is "what is consent?"

"Consent" seems to be the only standard of harm (lack of consent) that most people agree on here...

... aside from the production of a deformed or otherwise harmed baby.

There are several cases which "adult consent" is not actually "consent."

1) One or both of the persons can be harmed by the action, both physically and psychologically

2) One or both persons can enter the sexual relationship with severe sexual trauma (e.g., the result of a lifetime of abuse)

3) One or both persons could be uninformed... they could not know that the person that they are having sex with is a close family member and would not do it if they understood the close relationship

4) One or both persons could be pressured by health (they feel like their time is running out, better have sex now), or simply by the sexual aggression of their family member

**Now all of these points can be used to define consent in all other sexual relationships***

BUT, as I pointed out before, incest is so taboo that we can expect participation in it to indicate that there is lack of consent.

 

[TashaN]

Is it morally permissible for a brother and sister (adults) to use birth control and willingly participate in a sexual act? Y/N? Why?

I can think of no argument that makes it immoral, since no harm is caused to anyone.

Disgusting!

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Disgusting!

So is okra, but some people like that too.

 

[zaph'nath-paan'eah]

I had a friend that I "played with" for five years. We weren't boyfriend and boyfriend. We were just good friends that happened to like to have sex with each other. We did this for a longer period of time than most people keep a boyfriend/girlfriend. This even lasted longer than my last marriage. As two friends playing with each other constantly, how were we hurting society? How would this be different if I had been playing with my brother for those five years?

In most of these cases one of them know that what he is doing is raping his younger brother and make him believe that what he is doing is playing.

The you know that is what the priest are doing with the boys in church? Have you heard all those accusation in the Catholic church.

That you have been doing with your brother is called HOMOXESUALITY and children's SEXUAL ABUSE.

Both are a crime to God but the second one is a crime to man and to God comitted again an inocent child convincing him that you was playing must of homosexual are created by people like you.

You shall be in prison.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Nice to see that good ole Christian love in action Zaphnath

 

[MSizer]

Disgusting!

I agree. Care to add anything productive?

 

[enchanted_one1975]

In most of these cases one of them know that what he is doing is raping his younger brother and make him believe that what he is doing is playing.

The you know that is what the priest are doing with the boys in church? Have you heard all those accusation in the Catholic church.

That you have been doing with your brother is called HOMOXESUALITY and children's SEXUAL ABUSE.

Both are a crime to God but the second one is a crime to man and to God comitted again an inocent child convincing him that you was playing must of homosexual are created by people like you.

You shall be in prison.

Since we are not in a an DIR pertaining to the Abrahamic Faiths, your "crimes against God" statements mean absolutely nothing in this thread. That aside, why do you assume it is an adult brother raping a minor child? I have repeatedly stated that my views pertain to two consenting adults. If I have to put it in simple terms, let's say they are 36 and 37 years old. Now how does this even remotely resemble the way priests at your church play with altar boys?