Is spreading your religion correct?

[sandy whitelinger]

Nobody is 100% sure that their religion is true, if they were then they would not need faith. I know many people say that they are 100% sure, but obviously these people are either lying or they are dangerously deluded and imo, should be locked up.

I disagree. Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. It is something tangible and concrete that fills in the gaps for things that are unseen and yet to come. I am 100% sure of that. If I need to be locked up it is probably for something else, thank you.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

So far as I've seen in my 52 years, anyone who is 100% sure about something as complex as a religion or theology is deluding themselves. And if that's the case, then do you want delusional people converting others?

I am 100% sure that there is a God in heaven and that He will save me from eternal damnation. I am 100% sure He can save you as well. As to the complete understanding of the complexeties of Scripture I am sure that I am not yet 100% sure in my understanding of them. I need a year or two more. :areyoucra

There was a pastor who once said that if you could understand every thing in the Bible that would mean that God is not any smarter than you are.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Is converting non-believers into believers of your religion OK? Let's say you were 100% sure of your religion, would you think it morally correct to go and convert a bunch of African tribes to your religion? The fact that some people are 100% sure about their religion is the real problem with this. If you were 100% sure wouldn't you go and tell others of the truth, so they could be sure too?

Everyone is free to disagree with a religious position. But if your not told about it in a maaer that could be convincing it would seem to be a disservice to leave one ignorant .

It seems to me that people get their underwear more in a bunch over being proselytized for religion than they do to eat at Wendy's. I find advertising much more offensive.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

So, it doesnt matter to you if its a Muslim, a Wiccan, a Satanist, or a Christian who is doing the conversion?

I believe that there is one supreme God who wants people to know the truth. whatever layer of that truth one decides to accept or reject is up to them and the leading of that one God. Proselytize me all you want with the Remnants of Shambhala and I won't be offended or swayed.

 

[Sahar]

As a matter of fact I have a responsibility to convey the message of the truth (my religion) to other people and after this they have their freedom to choose to follow the path of the truth or not. "Convey" can be by words and/or deeds.

 

[Caladan]

I believe that there is one supreme God who wants people to know the truth. whatever layer of that truth one decides to accept or reject is up to them and the leading of that one God.

Of course its up to them, yet it seems that its not up to them to decide whether other people will proselytize to them, and its certainly not up to people who have been converted by force, or have been manipulated by different means into a foreign religious body.

But if your standards will allow your children to be exposed to Satanism and be 'proselytized' by gurus, than I suppose they might be pure after all.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

But if your standards will allow your children to be exposed to Satanism ...

They watch TV.

 

[Caladan]

They watch TV.

Is that your final answer?

I suppose you wouldnt mind them being given the Satanic bible by their fellow stundents and being exposed to Crowley's book of the law by their friends?

again if not, then indeed your standards are pure.

 

[GiantHouseKey]

Greetings

But if your standards will allow your children to be exposed to Satanism

I suppose you wouldnt mind them being given the Satanic bible by their fellow stundents and being exposed to Crowley's book of the law by their friends?

I know this is besides the point but what's wrong with Satanism if I may ask?

GhK.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Is that your final answer?

I suppose you wouldnt mind them being given the Satanic bible by their fellow stundents and being exposed to Crowley's book of the law by their friends?

again if not, then indeed your standards are pure.

I've been exposed to all of that and still have made the correct choice. I've probably exposed my children to more varied thought in order to expalin the difference than they might ever get by chance. You're barking up the wrong tree here pal.

 

[Caladan]

I've been exposed to all of that and still have made the correct choice. I've probably exposed my children to more varied thought in order to expalin the difference than they might ever get by chance. You're barking up the wrong tree here pal.

There's no barking on my part. I simply want to hear from you that you would allow Satanists, Thelemites, gurus to proselytize to your intimate public to the same degree that your selected Church does to others. but so far I havent been able to get a direct answer from you.

 

[Caladan]

Greetings



I know this is besides the point but what's wrong with Satanism if I may ask?

GhK.

You seem to be missing the context of the last several posts. if people are being proselytized Christianity, then those who support that proselytizing should have the courtesy to respect proselytizing from the loyal opposition, in the spirit of equality and religious pluralism.

 

[GiantHouseKey]

Of course, I understand and agree with your stance. Which is why I said, 'I know this is besides the point'.

GhK.

 

[Smoke]

As a matter of fact I have a responsibility to convey the message of the truth (my religion) to other people

That's a rather unusual use of the word fact.

 

[HoldemDB9]

I disagree. Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. It is something tangible and concrete that fills in the gaps for things that are unseen and yet to come. I am 100% sure of that. If I need to be locked up it is probably for something else, thank you.

You can say that you disagree, but its sort of impossible to actually disagree with this. You are not 100% sure that Christianity is true. I think almost everyone on the planet, even the most devout Christians, will agree with me. I don't care if you've "felt" Jesus or if you truly think your prays have been answered or anything like that. Its faith, you are not 100% sure. So stop lying.

I am 100% sure that there is a God in heaven and that He will save me from eternal damnation. I am 100% sure He can save you as well.

Again, your lying. Also, since you said that God can save us that are not saved, how do we get saved?

 

[crystalonyx]

Is converting non-believers into believers of your religion OK? Let's say you were 100% sure of your religion, would you think it morally correct to go and convert a bunch of African tribes to your religion? The fact that some people are 100% sure about their religion is the real problem with this. If you were 100% sure wouldn't you go and tell others of the truth, so they could be sure too?

This is one of the big problems with religion, evangelism. Many, many cultures have been destroyed by smiling missionaries out to "convert" people away fom their native religions and beliefs.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Also, since you said that God can save us that are not saved, how do we get saved?

Believe on the name of the only begotten son of God.

 

[Magic Man]

Is converting non-believers into believers of your religion OK? Let's say you were 100% sure of your religion, would you think it morally correct to go and convert a bunch of African tribes to your religion? The fact that some people are 100% sure about their religion is the real problem with this. If you were 100% sure wouldn't you go and tell others of the truth, so they could be sure too?

Converting others should not be a goal of religion. That is my biggest problem with Christianity, and also why I don't have a problem with Buddhism or Judaism or most others. It's perfectly fine to discuss your religion with others, if they're willing to do so, but proselytizing is not something you should do.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Converting others should not be a goal of religion. That is my biggest problem with Christianity, and also why I don't have a problem with Buddhism or Judaism or most others. It's perfectly fine to discuss your religion with others, if they're willing to do so, but proselytizing is not something you should do.

Is it ok to proselytize you to eat at Wendy's?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Believe on the name of the only begotten son of God.

How does one "believe on" something?

Is it ok to proselytize you to eat at Wendy's?

Even Wendy's doesn't try to tell you that it's evil to eat at Burger King.